I dont believe it

iceroadtrucker

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I just dont believe it they gots 700 billion and its still not enough??

Its time we throw out all the wall street big babys then hed to washington and throw out the Govt and start over.

What I just herd on Protosts08 is crazy I just cant believe it

Now they want more monie??

What is this country comming to.

Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
 

FIS53

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U should log onto Lou Dodds and checkout what his guests have to say. last week or the week before they were saying that the 700b was just the beginning of the demand for money as there are a couple of trillion bad mortgages and bad debt out there (or some amount like that). They predicted that once the gov't started to buy bad debt then the demands for more money would be a matter of a short period.
Are we surprised by this???
Rob
 

Turtle

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Germany, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal and Austria have put $2.3 Trillion on the line to guarantee that the top central banks to provide unlimited short term dollar credits. Not all of that money will be spent, of course, but a lot of it will. A lot of it goes to buy bank stocks to recapitalize the banks.

People think this is just a US thing, or a US-caused thing. It's not.

We're in the early stages, though. Stock market is coming up, world markets are at least headed in the right direction. Don't commit suicide just yet folks. :)
 

OntarioVanMan

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You all notice Canada isn't on the list...they've had Gov sponsored mortgages since I can remember....CMHC....Can. Mortgage and Housing Corp....up to 75% and the banks do the rest....People have to meet strict standards by both banks and CMHC to qualify for a loan....
 

arrbsthw

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Before they even got the 700 Billion approved they were
saying that this may not work and they may need more
money later.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I can't believe in this supposed capitalist country the government bailed these crooks out....they shoulda went belly up and someone would pickup the pieces...
Are we turning into a Social/conservative country?:eek:
 

Tennesseahawk

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Conservatively socialist? Is that like being a vegetarian carnivore? Or kosher bacon?

We are turning more and more socialist because Americans, for the large part, are tired of taking care of themselves, and want government to do it for them. A major reason for that is the yoot grajutating skule kant tink 4 demselbs. Dey bin braneworshed 4 12 yeers intoo tinkin dey wuz lernin sumptin.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Kinda like a Liberal/conservative I suppose...

Do ya think Americans are moving toward the center?

Do you think hard core conservatives are a dying breed?

Maybe call them "American Fundamentalists"?
 

Tennesseahawk

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Kinda like a Liberal/conservative I suppose...

Do ya think Americans are moving toward the center?

Do you think hard core conservatives are a dying breed?

Maybe call them "American Fundamentalists"?

I would say my sister is a liberal-conservative. She says she's fiscally conservative, and that government shouldn't take as much as it is. But she thinks ppl should be taken care of. Ppl like that think money is printed up for just such an occasion. Wow! I forgot they just DID that!!!

Moving toward the center? From which way? Since the Raw Deal, they've been left of center. Since the Great Catastrophe... I mean Society, we've been WAY left of center (at least those who have a voice seem to be).

Conservatives are a dying breed, because nobody wants to think about the Constitution except for the parts that pertain to them. It's dying because our institutions of higher learning are run by ppl like William Aires (ppl who couldn't survive at a job that makes them sweat). It's dying because the majority of Americans are too lazy to figure their own way in life, and would rather it be handed to them.

One big difference you will see in the rank and file conservative that you won't see in the rank and file liberal... a thirst for success!

Gotta cut this short, as we're tasting success right now. ;)
 

layoutshooter

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We are moving WAY further to the left. The main reason? Most Americans are just too darn spoiled and lazy to work. They have been taught that they are entiled to have what those who do work hard have even if they are not willing to work. Well guess what folks, when we go totally Marxist, like in November, I will become a bum, just like the rest of the scuz and lazy that I have been supporting all of my working life. I will no longer pay taxes to support these leeches. It is kind of a shame that the election is not in Oct, then the world would have a second Oct revolution. Instead I fear a very long and bloody civil war is in the very near future. There are still tens or hundreds of millions in this country that want to live free and EARN thier way through life. Good luck to us all, we are going to need it. Look out OVM, I will be moving out your way soon or at least somewhere away from the cesspool called Detroit or any other large cesspool, er, city. Layoutshooter
 

Turtle

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Most Americans are just too darn spoiled and lazy to work. They have been taught that they are entiled to have what those who do work hard have even if they are not willing to work.
Yeah, and it's being taught at an early age in schools. A third grader kisses a girl on the cheek and gets suspended for sexual harassment. Conflicts on the playground are not allowed to be played out and resolved by the kids themselves. Boys aren't allowed to be boys anymore. They no longer play dodge ball in most schools because someone might get singled out and picked on - you know, like real life. And they play Musical Chairs with the same number of kids as chairs so that no one ever loses - you know, not like real life.

There are no winners and no losers and everybody's the same in this two-pronged approach towards indoctrinated socialism and the feminization of the American male.
 

pjjjjj

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Speaking of feminization of males, and not that I'm prejudiced or anything, in regard to a person's lifestyle or orientation.. but I'm just not 'getting it', why a hetero male would WANT to wear 2 earrings, like I'm saying one in each ear, and wear a shoulder bag purse? Man, if someone said.. you HAVE to wear these today.. I wonder if they'd still want to?

I think some things though, have changed for the better.. like asking all the kids to bring valentines for ALL the kids.. I can't imagine what it must have been like for the poor kid, back in the day, who nobody liked.. perhaps because he had a condition unknown at the time which affected his social skills.. real life may be that he wouldn't get a valentine if by choice.. but an awfully sad thing for a little kid to experience, and heart wrenching for the parents too! I thought that was a pretty good idea when they came up with that one.
 

Turtle

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I think some things though, have changed for the better.. like asking all the kids to bring valentines for ALL the kids.. I can't imagine what it must have been like for the poor kid, back in the day, who nobody liked.. perhaps because he had a condition unknown at the time which affected his social skills.. real life may be that he wouldn't get a valentine if by choice.. but an awfully sad thing for a little kid to experience, and heart wrenching for the parents too! I thought that was a pretty good idea when they came up with that one.
Ironic in that the above paragraph is the absolute epitome of what I mean, as it addresses directly the feminization of males, indoctrinated socialism, and why our schools are failing to prepare our youth for life, and it illustrates why and how it's happening. Excellent post! :D

No fault of yours, that's who you are, but the very reasons you give for liking this are the very reasons why this sort of thing shouldn't happen. :)

"Poor kid.... who nobody liked...", "awfully sad thing to experience," and "heart wrenching"...

That's a mom speaking. That's pure emotion. That's a mom speaking who wants to protect her kids, nay, all kids, from any and all things unpleasant. There's nothing wrong with that, except that it doesn't teach kids how to deal with disappointment and unpleasantness. It's also indoctrinated socialism because no one is left out, everyone is entitled to receive a Valentine, even the ones nobody would ever want as their Valentine. Those who left out are disenfranchised victims! Oh, my achy breaky heart.

Oddly enough, this kind of involuntary cooperation also devalues the purpose of Valentines Day itself. Those who, back in the day, were left out of Valentines Day tend to value it and appreciate it much more as an adult, and thus tend to be more romantic as a whole.

In addition, solving problems with emotions, that's a female thing, not a male thing, and when males see most or all problems solved by emotions it teaches them to "think" female. Women will say that boys shouldn't be afraid to cry or get in touch with their emotions and let their emotions out, but that's what little girls do, not little boys, and little boys need to go through the basics of being a little boy in order to learn how to be a man. Otherwise, we end up with a world full of girlie men. We end up with a world chocked full of liberals

All this is about as silly as banning peanut butter and jelly from school lunch boxes because one sniveling little snot has a peanut allergy.
 

pjjjjj

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Ya but
Ya didn't answer the one about the earrings in 2 ears and the purse, did ya?
I'm kind of all for learning and dealing with, disappointment or whatever.. I was one of those horribly untalented-at-sports kids, who never won a ribbon, and altho it was disappointing, becuz I DID try, it's ok, and it's fair.. but valentines.. it's just mean... and maybe not so much for the poor schmuck, redneck bully that nobody likes, but for the other one who the clique of popular girls decided was unpopular that week and made a pact to not include him/her.
It riles my butt making my boys' lunches every day, knowing full well they'll only get thrown out, and the only reason I send them is so the teachers don't report me as a horrible mother who doesn't feed her children.. but all they want is a **** PB&J, and no matter how many shapes I cut the veggies into, or how gourmet and attractive I can make a sandwich look and taste, they aren't buying into it. They prefer to just be hungry and play at lunchtime and then come home after school and raid the cupboards. I just want proof of the kid's allergy who is preventing the entire school from having a peanut trace in their tim horton's timbit.
I completely see your point, and I do agree.. but you're right, my maternal instincts come into play.
I also think some little girl's family shouldn't be able to sue the boys' hockey league for not allowing their little precious to play on a team in their league. And little Johnny shouldn't be able to sue for not being allowed to be a girl's scout.
One of my boys got invited to another boy's bday party the other week, and when we picked him up, we were shocked to learn ours was the only one who had shown up. So sad.. but.. I guess little 'David' and his parents can take time out to learn that David should try harder to be a nicer little boy to the other kids. It's still sad tho!
And even tho us women may 'say' men shouldn't be afraid to cry or get in touch with their emotions.. to me, it'd be a scary day if they in fact listened!
 

Turtle

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Ya but
Ya didn't answer the one about the earrings in 2 ears and the purse, did ya?

Yeah, indirectly. That's also the feminization of the male.

There have been exceptions to be sure, but for the most part, historically women have adorned their bodies, men have not. Over the last 50 years or so (since the advent of The Pill) the traditional roles are often reversed, or at least messed up. Women aren't getting more masculine, but they are doing many of the same things men are, and are becoming more male in their roles. They still think like women, though, and because men don't there has been a concerted effort, based on emotions, to try and make men (starting as little boys) think more like women.

Holes in men's ears started as a statement of youthful rebellion in the 60's (as did other body piecings and tattoos) and as men grew up from feminized boys, more and more adornments became accepted as the norm, incorporated into the popular culture. First it was a single earring, now it's two. It used to be simple metal or diamond studs, now they're getting a little more elaborate, a litte more feminine. It's grown up little boys getting in touch, if only a little bit, with their feminine side. Many are wearing rather large hoops already. I figure before too long we'll see see men wearing rhinestone shoulder dusters.


I've got this thick and cozy turtleneck and a pair of 4" crystal teardrops that are just to die for.


(OK, that was a joke.)

 

simon says

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The latest move partly nationalizes the 9 major banks. Socialism only for the rich and their parasitic economic policies. They do not build much here anymore, they just create financial get rich quick schemes, while we get the shaft and watch jobs and livelihoods disappear. I do not see anyone keeping people in their homes. Soon it might be the neighborhood keeping one in his house the old fashioned way, like in the 30's...
 

arrbsthw

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Conservatively socialist? Is that like being a vegetarian carnivore? Or kosher bacon?

We are turning more and more socialist because Americans, for the large part, are tired of taking care of themselves, and want government to do it for them. A major reason for that is the yoot grajutating skule kant tink 4 demselbs. Dey bin braneworshed 4 12 yeers intoo tinkin dey wuz lernin sumptin.


I thought you had turned into the Col for a minute.. scared me:p
 

arrbsthw

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All this is about as silly as banning peanut butter and jelly from school lunch boxes because one sniveling little snot has a peanut allergy.

If I didn't know better Turtle, I would say you live in my
home town. There was actually a war of words in our local
newspaper about this very same thing. The mom on a child
wanted the whole elementary school to stop bringing pnut
butter sandwiches to school.

 

arrbsthw

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Have you seen the guys that have a round hole in
their ear lobes.. really weird looking. It's like a hole was
punched out of the ear.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Pj... you know that if you don't like that school, there are alternatives. Also, not trying to pick on you here, but if my kids don't eat their lunch, they go without till dinner. Too many CHILDREN are dictating what they will and will not eat to their PARENTS. If your kids are hungry enough, a carrot stick will do just as well as pbj. Getting kids to like something can be as simple as not giving them what they want. But I agree... your kids' school sux!

BTW... I lied. My girl just started kindergarten and my son is 21 months. Sarah usually eats her lunch, buys an ice cream, and STILL raids the fridge after school! LOL But I can dream, can't I? ;)

One thing we do do tho, is make sure they try new things once before they say they don't like it. They have some really broad tastes, which makes it easy to cook for them, since they eat what we do.
 
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