HY-Tech Roof Coatings

[layoutshooter]

Has anyone in here ever used any of the products by a company called HY-Tech? They make ceramic paints. You see thier stuff on school busses every where. The white paint on the roofs. It is designed to keep the interiors of the busses cooler. I was thinking of paint the top of my cargo box and my sleeper with the stuff. I am looking for anyone who might have tried it and get a real life report. The web address is below. Layoutshooter

HY-TECH Insulating paint and insulating house paint additive DIY insulation solutions

 

[greg334]

Has anyone in here ever used any of the products by a company called HY-Tech? They make ceramic paints. You see thier stuff on school busses every where. The white paint on the roofs. It is designed to keep the interiors of the busses cooler. I was thinking of paint the top of my cargo box and my sleeper with the stuff. I am looking for anyone who might have tried it and get a real life report. The web address is below. Layoutshooter

HY-TECH Insulating paint and insulating house paint additive DIY insulation solutions

Well if your sleeper is white, this may not help much.

 

[layoutshooter]

It is but it is normal paint. I was wondering if the added thermal properties of this stuff would help. They claim it makes a big difference on the busses. I sure see it every where. Wish there was a way to get things like this tested by an indepentdent lab. It is very expensive to try things on our own. It would be worth it if it works. Layoutshooter

 

[layoutshooter]

I guess it's just my old work ethic and living the old days when I could experiment with new toys, like satillte systems etc. We would come up with ideas and have the budget and means to test the theory. Those were fun days. Imagine, an idea, design it, with your own design "guru's" to turn your "wild" ideas into something that had meaning to a "techy" type and then having the means to test the theory. A dreamers delight. I lived that for almost 5 years. Layoutshooter

 

[greg334]

It is but it is normal paint. I was wondering if the added thermal properties of this stuff would help. They claim it makes a big difference on the busses. I sure see it every where. Wish there was a way to get things like this tested by an indepentdent lab. It is very expensive to try things on our own. It would be worth it if it works. Layoutshooter

Well I am working on my sleeper and the companion article to post on my site. So I am looking at all kinds of things to help me with my 100 plus degree sleeper. I tolerated this alright until they changed my meds in July and I can't take it anymore.

The thing is that the roof still needs to be insulated inside better that the fiberglass matting that is put into a lot of these sleepers.

The coating will do only so much but as I was working on the sleeper with the laser temp thing, my roof which is insulated with sandwich system kept cool in direct sunlight, about 89 (it is higher right now because the last layer of insulation is out). On the other hand, in direct hot sunlight the walls were ranging from 106 for the fiberglass area with no insulation to 85 for the aluminum depending on the stage of insulation I have in the sleeper wall (to be complete tomorrow). In my case, I think this may help with the exposed framing of the sleeper under the final sheet of insulation and to coat the bottom of the sleeper, which by the way hit 98.

I also noticed that they sell additives for paint, I will look at this some more because if I get around to painting this truck, I want to try it out with the finish coat or maybe the primer coat. Oh and thinking about it, this may work on the floor of the cab.

News at 11

 

[layoutshooter]

Good work Greg!! I would love to be able to do thing like that under a totally controlled environment. That way I could "test" different coatings, insulation systems and document the results with confidence. The problem with me doing it at home is I can NEVER insure that temps and humidity will remain constant. I am NEVER satisfied with the status quo. Layoutshooter

 

[danthewolf00]

keep it up guys i love this info!

 

[ATeam]

On our reefer body manufacturer's (Kidron) recommendation, we treated our reefer body roof with Solar Guard. Since it is on the truck from the first day, we have no before/after results to report. Little info about Solar Guard comes up in a Google search; nor does a link to a Solar Guard home page. The product on our truck is not the SolarGuard® found on Wabash trailers. Trailer shops may be able to tell you more.

 

[layoutshooter]

I will look around to see if I can find out anything about Solar-Guard. The Hy-Tech stuff interested me for a couple of reasons. 1. The use by the space program. 2. The heavy use in the school bus sector. I see the stuff in use everywhere. I still wish there was a way I or the trucking industry in general could get these products tested under controlled conditions to document how they work. Like at Underwriters Lab or something similar. Layoutshooter

 

[rollnthunder]

Why not just use the White kool seal that is a rubber roofing coating for campers.Its designed to reflect heat and seal.It is a rubber coating and doesnt staing.I used this on my area where my sleeper roof meets my cab.I had a leak there and i tried everything.The nice thing is this stuff can be put on several times to recoat.Its very inexpensive and you can get it at lowes and several other places.The product that you want is Elastomeric roof coating.Here is a link the there site.
koolseal.com: Elastomeric Roof Coatings

 

[layoutshooter]

I will look into that one too. I have not been able to find out much about SolarGuard, it seems like it is a fiberglass pannel. They might make building roof pannels too. I can't find a company web page either. Layoutshooter

 

[greg334]

Solar Guard is one of the coatings that uses some ceramic additive. The solar guard that is used for Wabash is actually a roof unit and I understand works very well.

The rubber RV roof thing is also good but will not really prevent a lot of heat to be blocked. I think the idea is to block the heat and if the roof is fiberglass, I still feel that the best is first insulate the roof than look at coatings.

 

[layoutshooter]

I looked at the Wabash site, looks good but it won't help me. I am not sure that the RV stuff would do what I want either. The stuff am I looking at is waterproof as well. Nothing is ever easy. Layoutshooter

 

[ThibodeauxBayou]

Ceramic Paint Additive Makes any Paint Insulate

Now you can make Any Paint...
A radiant heat reflecting, insulating, thermal barrier coating

The microspheres in the HY-TECH insulating ceramic additive have compressive strengths up to 6,000 psi, a softening point of about 1800° C., and they are fairly chemical resistant, with low thermal conductivity of 0.1 W / m / Deg.C.
The scientific process went one step farther and improved on the ceramic microspheres by removing all the gas inside which created a vacuum. Physics law states that nothing can move by conduction through a vacuum, since it represents an absence of matter. In effect we have a miniature thermos bottle... a microscopic hollow vacuum sphere that resists thermal conductivity and reduces the transfer of sound.

Hy-Tech - P.O. Box 216, Melbourne, Fl 32902
USA Order Toll Free: 1-866-649-8324
Orders and Tech Support: 321-984-9777 * Fax: 321-984-1022

 

[layoutshooter]

That is the one I am looking at. Thier Bus-Kote product. Do you have any first hand experiance with any of thier stuff? Layoutshooter

 

[ThibodeauxBayou]

Do you have any first hand experiance with any of thier stuff? Layoutshooter

According to my brother, Yes.

On ours and everyone else's shrimp/fishing boats [wheel-houses]. Also on a couple of our outbuildings. Knew we had somthing up their....but didn't know what.

Supposedly purchased in raw form and you mix into paint yourself.

 

[arkjarhead]

I think someone could make a fortune if they came up with a coating to put on trailers and cargo boxes that would make snow and ice melt on contact. Think about it, there are different states that have and have talked about making it a requirement to clear off snow and ice before hitting the road. If someone could come up with a coating that would melt it on contact that stuff would sale like crazy.

 

[layoutshooter]

I take it that if everyone down there is using the stuff on the wheelhouses that you all like it? How much of a difference did it make in wheelhouse temps? Layoutshooter

 

[layoutshooter]

I can't get this chart to work at all, I can't even upload it off a word document. It is on the HY-Tech web site under test results. Layoutshooter

 

[ThibodeauxBayou]

I take it that if everyone down there is using the stuff on the wheelhouses that you all like it? How much of a difference did it make in wheelhouse temps? Layoutshooter

Well , i'm not certain all are using Hy-Tech. But most everyone's using some sorta upper decking insulation material/Paint. As you can see, the superstructure contains allot of deck area. I'm always sweating ,so i'd not be the one to tell ya it cools like A/C....but it does cut down some.
The "Old Man" Buddy ,will tell ya it's probably chilly in the middle of August.