How will this affect us? End of cell phone use!

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
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US Army
I was just reading this on the FMCSA web site. It will not apply to hands free devices with voice dialing.

WASHINGTON - As part of its campaign to put an end to the practice of distracted driving, the U.S. Department of Transportation today proposed a new safety regulation that would specifically prohibit interstate commercial truck and bus drivers from using hand-held cell phones while operating a commercial motor vehicle (CMV).

"Every time a commercial truck or bus driver takes his or her eyes off the road to use a cell phone, even for a few seconds, the driver places everyone around them at risk," said U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. "This proposed rule will go a long way toward keeping a driver's full attention focused on the road."

The proposed Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) rule would prohibit commercial drivers from reaching for, holding or dialing a cell phone while operating a CMV. Drivers who violate these restrictions would face federal civil penalties of up to $2,750 for each offense and disqualification of their commercial driver's license (CDL) for multiple offenses. Additionally, states would suspend a driver's CDL after two or more violations of any state law on hand-held cell phone use.

Motor carriers that allow their drivers to use hand-held cell phones while driving would face a maximum penalty of $11,000. Approximately four million interstate commercial drivers would be affected by this proposal.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
For what its worth.

Link: http://www.politifact.com/oregon/st...ment-going-pry-your-cell-phone-phone-your-co/

Says Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood will "force you to stop using your cell phone" while driving.

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Lars Larson on Sunday, November 21st, 2010 in a website posting

Is the government going to pry your cell phone phone from your cold, dead hands?

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Portland radio personality and blogger Lars Larson isn’t likely to add Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood to his "friends and family" list anytime soon.

Not when, as Larson suggests in a Nov. 21, 2010, post on the conservative website OregonCatalyst.com, LaHood is "going to force you to stop using your cell phone."

What? I’m sorry, you’re breaking up. Can you find a stronger signal and say that again?

Larson wrote the post five days after LaHood appeared on the MSNBC show Morning Joe on Nov. 16, 2010. On the show, LaHood talked about the dangers of distracted driving and how cell phones, smart phones, iPods and other devices have become major contributors to the problem. During the conversation, LaHood was asked about "slamming" technology that would render cell phones useless.

"Simply banning talking on a cell phone behind the wheel is not enough for him," Larson wrote. "He’s on MSNBC saying, ‘I think it will be done. Scrambling technology is there and I think you are going to see the technology become adaptable to disable cell phones. We need to do a lot more if we are going to save lives.’"

"Ready for Nanny State LaHood to be driving behind the wheel with you? He’s not only telling you that you can’t use your cell phone but he’s going to disable it so that it won’t work," Larson wrote.

Larson wasn’t alone in this charge. A large group of mostly conservative commentators constructed an assortment of conspiracy theories after hearing LaHood.

Here’s the exchange on Morning Joe that touched it off:


Co-host Mika Brzezinski: "So, Secretary, everything you said is true. Everybody does it, everybody’s on the phone. If you look around my neighborhood, all the moms are trying to pick up kids, they’re on their phones, they’re trying to pick up other kids, it happens. Isn’t the only way to stop this, is to have a device in the car, when that car is on, a ‘slammer.’ Literally, the ‘phone slammer’ starts and phones don’t work. Isn’t that the only way to stop it?"

Secretary LaHood: "There’s a lot of technology out there now that can disable phones and we’re looking at that. A number of them [cell technology innovators] came to our Distracted Driving Summit here in Washington and presented their technology, and that’s one way. But you have to have good laws, you have to have good enforcement, and you have to have people take personal responsibility. That’s the bottom line."

LaHood’s comments admittedly left room for interpretation and confusion, sort of like talking to someone with a weak signal and hearing every third word.

LaHood and his aides apparently realized this, too. Two days later LaHood clarified his comments on the department’s blog.

"Again, personal responsibility – that’s the bottom line," LaHood wrote in a Nov. 18, 2010, entry titled "Setting the Record Straight" on Fast Lane, "the official blog of the U.S. Secretary of Transportation."

"When you get behind the wheel of a 5,000 pound automobile, you have a personal responsibility to drive that vehicle safely. That means, put away cell phones and other devices that take your focus off of the road."

Timing is important, however.

The clarification came three days before Larson’s entry on OregonCatalyst.

Ignored in the jousting is this central -- and unchallenged -- fact: Distracted driving is a major threat to safety. It’s also beyond question that young and inexperienced drivers are especially at risk.

Here are some facts:

In 2008, almost 20 percent of all crashes involved some type of distraction. (Source: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration - NHTSA).
Nearly 6,000 people died in 2008 in crashes involving a distracted driver, and more than half a million were injured. (NHTSA)
The younger, inexperienced drivers under 20 years old have the highest proportion of distraction-related fatal crashes.
Drivers who use hand-held devices are four times as likely to get into crashes serious enough to injure themselves. (Source: Insurance Institute for Highway Safety)
Using a cell phone while driving, whether it’s hand-held or hands-free, delays a driver's reactions as much as having a blood alcohol concentration at the legal limit of 0.08 percent. (Source: University of Utah)

Given that reality, LaHood says, his department is always on the lookout for new approaches and technology to minimize the danger. Some of those technologies are being studied by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Banning cell phone use in cars by way of "slamming technology" is not on the list and will not be considered, LaHood and his aides say.

That leads to an obvious question. "Some have asked why NHTSA would research this kind of technology if there was no intent to put it into use," Department of Transportation press secretary Olivia Alair said in an e-mail exchange.

"The reality is, many independent researchers and innovators have approached the DOT with technologies they’ve designed to prevent distracted driving. NHTSA needs to evaluate these kinds of technologies in large part because they may one day wind up on the market – geared towards parents who want to install them in their teens’ cars for example – and it’s important for NHTSA to know how they work, whether they are safe, and whether they help or hurt efforts to stop distracted driving."

But, she adds, "We have never promoted the use of technologies to disable cell phone signals, nor have we ever indicated we intended to require them."

Larson could be forgiven for jumping to the wrong conclusion if his comments appeared the same day LaHood spoke -- or even the next day. But saying the federal government is moving to cripple your phone three days after the record was clarified to the contrary is dubious no matter how well your smart phone is working. For that reason, we rate his claim False.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
The above from Politifact (and from distraction.gov, the DOT's site) deals with cars, which the Department of Transportation isn't really in charge of. It's the States who dole out driver's licenses and make the laws. The DOT is in charge of Commercial Motor Vehicles, tho, and they're not about to let you forget it. LaHood can't ban cell phones in cars, but he can in CMVs. And he'll do it without the supporting statistical data.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Turtle;408954/QUOTE said:
The DOT is in charge of Commercial Motor Vehicles, tho, and they're not about to let you forget it. LaHood can't ban cell phones in cars, but he can in CMVs. And he'll do it without the supporting statistical data.

That is why I prefaced my post with, "For what its worth." Anything can happen.

Again, you have this from the Department of Transportation press secretary Olivia Alair:
But, she adds, "We have never promoted the use of technologies to disable cell phone signals, nor have we ever indicated we intended to require them."

It boils down to 1. Do you believe her? And 2. Do you trust your Government?

I gotta run, I hear the black helicopters flying overhead.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
It boils down to 1. Do you believe her? And 2. Do you trust your Government?
1 - Yes
2 - No

I believer her because what she says is true, they never have promoted any technology to disable cell phone signals, nor have they stated they intend to require them. They have stated they have and are looking into it, but there's a snotload of things they look into that never gets any farther, like when they looked into breathalysers connected to the ignition of cars. People freaked. But all they did was look into it.

Laws banning cell phones in cars and trucks will probably happen, but slamming, or jamming technologies are unlikely to be mandated.

For one, there is a limit to what the people will allow cops to do but not the public. The no-windshield-suckered-devices in Minnesota and California, except for cops, of course, pushed a lot of buttons in a lot of places. Not being able to use a cell phone, because the signal is actually jammed, while a cop drives down the road chatting up a storm, is not something we the people are likely to put up with without just an awful lot of noise.

Then there are the state and local officials who aren't going to be willing to give up their cell phones, either. A special exemption for them would be out of the political question, so it comes down to passing laws banning them, and then hoping they will abide by the law, or at least get a BT headset. Slamming and Jamming ain't gonna happen.

Some guy breaks into the house. The eight-year old daughter hides under the bed, feverishly texting mommy and daddy that a burglar is in the house, and is making fe fi fo fum noises, but both mommy and daddy are riding together in the car, on the way to the grocery store, and their cell phone doesn't work. Daughter is kidnapped and all manner of vile and evil things are done to her. But at least mommy, daddy, and those around them on the road are safe from pesky distractions like an incoming text message that can wait until they are parked and out of the car.

Then there's the case of someone witnessing an abduction, and cautiously follows the abductor down the road. The passenger in the back seat cannot call the police to report it or the abductors location, because the dаmned cell phone won't work because of the dаmned LaHood Slаmma Jаmma.
 

14Wheeler

Seasoned Expediter
I believe the question was, "How will this affect us?"

So I don't see it affecting us very much one way or the other.



you.

Nope, will have ZERO effect in my cab. If one is smart enough and adds a touch of common sense....will not affect them either
 
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