How to get started in Ontario?

Duramaxsle1

Seasoned Expediter
I need help in this new adventure I am taking. I am looking at cargo vans to start as an O/O in expidite. I did drive for a company about 10 years ago in and out of the states mostly a 500 mile range.

Any help on where to go and who to go to would be greatly appreciated. I am starting knowing nothing much at this point!!!:eek:

Thanks!!!
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Welcome to the site! While things are slow right now but it also can be a good time to start as it will likely be all uphill from here.

The first thing you have to ask yourself is do you have some cash built up that you can use to float your new business along. There are start up costs, everything from getting you business registered, costs incurred equipping yourself with the right vehicle and the usual orientation and start up costs (like the lag between doing the run and then getting paid for it). I can't stress it enough, you need start up cash, not a loan.

It's key to remember you are a business. The expedite industry is VERY different from just about any other trucking deal out there. In expedite it is all about the customer and what they want whenever they want it, that's usually why they use expedite because something has caught them off guard and the shipment "has to happen". There is a lot of waiting for loads, almost nothing is scheduled or typical. There are loads you could do but others will get because they are better equipped or their type of truck needs to be moved to where the load is going etc. If you get down on it and the "man they are pickin on me" attitude pops up you will not enjoy this at all. That attitude is real easy for anyone to get, we have lots of time to think, usually aren't aware of the big picture, and, we are running a business that we only really care about our own pockets....human nature.

Being from Midland, you are away from the big freight lanes, how comfortable are you with being away from home for long times? True, you will be automatically coming back to Canada but if you drop in Mississauga and then deadhead home a lot it will cost you a lot of money. You may want to call a local courier type company and ask them if they do any long distance or US work. I started that way (with a pickup no less) and it was a great way to learn a few things and still have the security of knowing there was local work to fall back on. I'm glad I did it as it really helped me know what to look for and expect when I finally made the move to a big carrier.

Read up on here about the things newbie's have encountered, remember to keep in mind that being a Canadian makes it different about what loads you can take (ie no US to US loads) and you will be crossing the border A LOT! If you don't have one, get a FAST card (it takes a while to get it). Even if you aren't crossing the border with FAST approved freight it will help as it shows the US Customs guys you are one of the "good guys" and are squeky clean as far as criminality etc. They won't ask for it but when they punch you in and see that you are FAST approved, then all they care about is the load.

Read up (this site is a goldmine of info), it can be a very challenging business but it is also very rewarding if you keep the right mindset.
 
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Duramaxsle1

Seasoned Expediter
Thanks Piper1,

Some very interesting points, I have never heard of a fast card....where would I go to get this?

I do have experience crossing the border as I did expidite years back but way before 9/11.

I am from Midland but spend a lot of time near Oshawa. Any thoughts on what type of truck would be best to start with?
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You can do the FAST app online (50 bucks I think) and they will do all the background checks. Then after a couple months they will call you for an interview and fingerprinting. This happens at the border as you get the once over from US and Canadian authorities. Be 100 % truthful on the application, they will likely ask you all of it at the interview and if it doesn't jive they will deny you the card. The guy in front of me when I went for my interview was a bit shifty and the US Customs person tore him to shreds (he deserved it too). The border is a lot different than it used to be. Read up on ACE, PAPS and PARS as well.

As far as vehicles go, you mentioned a van. Vans are the easiest to get started with but, they pay the least and have the most competition as lots of folks can do it. I started with a pick-up, I now have a Sprinter van, I was going to buy a D unit (big straight truck) but wanted to let the dust settle and wait for signs the economy is on it's way up before committing to that kind of money.

After you read up on the site here, talk to a few companies and ask them what kind of vehicle they require. I bought the Sprinter because I needed the space at my last carrier but now I'm with FedEx and they don't require the space. If I knew I would be at FedEx this quick I wouldn't have bought the Sprinter, it's nice but it is expensive and FedEx sells freight as 8 foot by 4 by 4 for van purposes. Read up first so you know what kinds of questions to ask and how to spot any recruiter BS. And whatever they tell you for revenue, don't bank on it.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Welcome to the site! While things are slow right now but it alsoIf you get down on it and the "man they are pickin on me" attitude pops up you will not enjoy this at all. That attitude is real easy for anyone to get, we have lots of time to think, usually aren't aware of the big picture, and, we are running a business that we only really care about our own pockets....human nature.
Well said ....... it is very tempting at times .... and an all-too-easy trap to fall into. ;)
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Any help on where to go and who to go to would be greatly appreciated. I am starting knowing nothing much at this point!!!:eek:

Like everyone else is told.. do a lot of reading here.. go back in the archives, read back for a couple years.. you'll get a LOT of information.. if it's not clicking, and seeming like it's not relevant, it probably IS, but you haven't got enough info to know it yet!
Some things are different for us here in Canada, but much of the same issues still apply.
Go to some truckstops and see who you can talk to. Do lots of homework before making ANY decisions. Due diligence. While you're doing all that, save your pennies to establish a nice reserve to fall back on, you'll need it.
 

Duramaxsle1

Seasoned Expediter
Thank you for all the info, I have been doing just as you say in the way of reading up on here. I have talked to a few company's, Fedex not looking for small trucks right now and K-Dac maybe in a few months.

I'll keep at it and check out as much as possible!
 
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