How Ron Paul's Minions Plan to Hijack the GOP Convention

layoutshooter

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He's not King unless you make him one and with the attitude that makes him one, I am guessing you want him to be one.


Nope, I did not vote for it, 'er, him. He crowned himself King Putz the 1st, not I.

In fact, IF the SC court upholds his 'individual mandate' the Constitution will already have been suspended and, at that point, all bets are off.
 

greg334

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OK If you look at the SC, you may see constitutionalist sitting in the majority, not liberals. Which means that there is a good chance that they will strike down the law in either the entirety by finding that little part a bit over the individual rights line.

Remember, the victory isn't going to be the defeat of Obama, it is the use of the words "I tried" and he will turn that into a victory.
 

layoutshooter

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OK If you look at the SC, you may see constitutionalist sitting in the majority, not liberals. Which means that there is a good chance that they will strike down the law in either the entirety by finding that little part a bit over the individual rights line.

Remember, the victory isn't going to be the defeat of Obama, it is the use of the words "I tried" and he will turn that into a victory.

Time will tell, as I said, IF the individual mandate is upheld, the Constitution is dead. When Obama is reelected, he will be able to change the court. He will find a way to have the first ruling overturned. He is 100% opposed to the Constitution of the United States.
 

RLENT

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Yep, well, you find one that has the fire in his gut and the organization to win and a speech writer that can write. Ain't seen him/her/it yet.
Paul doesn't do speech writers - he's his own man. No one is going to put any words in his mouth that are not his own.

On the fire, he manages to fire up those that attend his campaign rallies (which are generally larger than the others ... and are growing in size ...) ... and they return the favor back to him.

He's got the organization (maybe even more so than Romney at the grassroots level) - many folks will likely get a very rude awaking when they see what will happen in Tampa. The media knows - but they are intentionally ignoring it, in order to minimize him (Paul largely drives the media nuts - whether it's left or right - and that's because he's a threat to the establishment regardless of which side of the political spectrum one is talking about)

Romney knows .... watch what he says about Paul (he's highly deferential)

Folks like to complain about a Paul/Romney alliance ... and usually lay it at Paul's feet and try and tar him with it .... but if you look at what Paul says (about Romney) and then look at what Romney says (about Paul) what is being said is very different ...

Paul is very critical (if not very vocal) of Romney on policy and record (but respectful to the man) ... Romney praises Paul on his leadership with respect to the Constitution, liberty, etc., is very measured on any criticism of Paul on foreign policy .... and is respectful to the man as well. Romney certainly can't attack him for his record or his consistency.

Who's really in the driver's seat ?

Read an interesting one this morning on LRC - it posed the question:

Will Ron Paul Invite Mitt Romney To Be His Vice President?

Is it better for Romney to try now .... and fail - which is about guaranteed at this point - and have it be his last shot ? (which it most assuredly would be) .... or bide his time until 2016, when he'll have a chance to run as an incumbent Vice-President ... on the coattails of a popular Paul presidency ?
 

layoutshooter

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You see it, I don't, only time will tell. Tampa will be interesting to say the least. I already know who I am writing in. I refuse to settle.

No point in my going on about Paul. I have said my piece before, nothing has changed. Nothing he has said has even given me pause to think. My mind is made up, barring something drastic.

As to speech writers. he COULD hire someone to put HIS words into a form that would not make him sound like dry toast. Just a thought.
 

aristotle

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Ron Paul could help his candidacy by showing a more human side. Thousands of us are searching for dirt on this guy and we hit a dead end. Where are his scandals? What are the skeletons in his closet? Does he even have a closet? Surely, he must have skipped nap-time in kindergarten or something. He's so old it's tough tracking down people who knew him back in the day.
 

RLENT

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Well there are a lot of them but see until you (not you but in a general sense) rid the idea that who the parties select are right for the country, then we will never see or hear them.
The parties are a huge part of the problem that we face .... they have grown (in influence) to the point of stifling individuality (requiring folks to march in ideological lockstep) ... and reducing political discourse to all manner of mindless labeling ... which is in turn exploited by the media (and others)

This problem is getting worse, not better .....

We either need more viable parties .... or less focus on parties generally.

I'm inclined to favor the latter, rather than the former ....
 

layoutshooter

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What we REALLY need is an independent press to expose the anti-Constitutional beliefs and actions of those in Washington.

What we have now is a press bound to Obama like mold on a warm, wet wall. They deem those who believe in freedom as 'anti-government' and those who would destroy the Constitution and Nation as 'progressive thinkers'.

They are no better than Pravda.
 

RLENT

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Ron Paul could help his candidacy by showing a more human side. Thousands of us are searching for dirt on this guy and we hit a dead end. Where are his scandals? What are the skeletons in his closet?
Like anyone who's been in politics for any length of time, Paul has likely been associated or connected with something or someone in some way or another that someone could try to be use tar him (even if unfairly)

You might take a cue from the media in terms of what's really there - evidently not much, since they are pretty much forced to drumming up strawman/red herring crap that goes nowhere .... forcing them to ignore him as a tactic ....

Given the threat he poses, I suspect that if they really had anything they would run with it by now. I also think that if there was anything there, they would have it by now.

Does he even have a closet?
Yup ..... I think it's pretty much empty though ...

Surely, he must have skipped nap-time in kindergarten or something.
LOL ... he's recounted a few of his "bad boy" moments ... I wish I could remember them to share (didn't bookmark 'em) ... pretty innocuous stuff ... (and somewhat funny as I recall)

He's so old it's tough tracking down people who knew him back in the day.
LOL .... now c'mon .... :p

(The real beauty of it when you think about it is the length of his record ....)
 

layoutshooter

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"(The real beauty of it when you think about it is the length of his record ....)"



Record of what?
:confused:
 

RLENT

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I would run but I am too old, too fat and too ugly. Old, fat, ugly dudes can't win.
I'd take an old, fat, ugly dude of substance and character in a heartbeat any day of the week ... over some polished, insincere suit ...

This election, to a large extent I think, is a process of raising the awareness of the American people (or some portion thereof) ....

Of course, some folks have no interest in experiencing that ...

No matter - as all it takes is a (relatively) small, relentless minority to affect change ...
 

layoutshooter

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Consistently defending the Constitution, almost single-handedly, in a den of treasonous vipers and wh0res ...

No argument. I just did not know what your original remark was about.

You should not be so kind to the congress and Obama. OR, at least do not defame vipers and *****s!
 

layoutshooter

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I'd take an old, fat, ugly dude of substance and character in a heartbeat any day of the week ... over some polished, insincere suit ...

This election, to a large extent I think, is a process of raising the awareness of the American people (or some portion thereof) ....

Of course, some folks have no interest in experiencing that ...

No matter - as all it takes is a (relatively) small, relentless minority to affect change ...

U.S elections since tv became import, if not before, have been little more than popularity contests. Pretty counts more that character or beliefs. All it takes is winning the sounds bite war and a cute smile.

You cannot raise awareness without a free, independent press. We don't have on.

No a small minority, no matter how relentless, is still a minority and they will still lose.
 
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