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jbrbears

Seasoned Expediter
Since my first day on this website, most of you guys have been very informative and professional, and I appreciate that. I've also developed some legitimate friendships. that being said, I want to know what you guys think the "average" mileage should be, per week for the following vehicles/situations moving expedited freight. I'm not talking what your "dream" mileage would be, but what you can actually expect in the real world.

cargo van/single
cargo van/sprinter-team
Straight trucks/vehicle
straight trucks/team
tractor-single
tractor-team

thanks a lot in advance....




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pellgrn

Expert Expediter
Single strt C unit in my example,about 1200-1500 per wk.The key with single operations is make sure you got your hours,good board postion,in a good freight area on Fri morning.Your chances of a good paying load are better cause alot of places are closed on the weekend,and if it takes you out of the working area it gives you time to work on a backhaul.Hope for the best plan for the worest.
 
fastman_1

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Cargo Van I run 1500-2500 on average







































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ATeam

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
We think more in terms of miles per month than per week. CR-unit, team, FedExCC White Glove (reefer, liftgate, pads, straps, dollies, fully credentialed team). A month in service 80%-90% with load acceptance 70%-80% produces about 12,000 miles for us (months vary). That would be 2,790 per week, assuming 4.3 weeks in a month (12,000/4.3 = 2,790).
 
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babs3361

Expert Expediter
T/T team we average about 3500 to 4000 per week we have done as little as 1500 and as much as 6500 per week.
 
nightcreacher

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
It's to bad that most contractors are worried about mileage,If I wanted miles,I'd have contracted with another company,guys and gals,its not miles,miles will put your truck into early grave.
If you have to run 5000 miles a week to make your revenue,something is wrong,sure once in a while its ok but a steady diet of high miles will be getting you expense that only Mr.Murphy will like to see.
Until people in trucking realize,that only the low pay carriers have to run high miles,and refuse to work for these people,will the rates paid to the owner opp go up.
I run team,my miles in a year are in most years less than single guy running at lets say J.B.Hunt,Schneider,but my revenue,is another story,most teams in other companies have to double my miles to equal my pay.
Since I started driving truck,back in the 70's,I've always worked on a percentage contract,I control my mileage,not the company,for instance multiple short loads pay much better than 1 long one,per mile that is.
Ok off my high horse,everyone stay safe and happy motoring
 
Coco

Coco

Seasoned Expediter
I have to agree with Nightcreature. It's not miles. It's so many other things that fit into the picture. All miles don't pay the same. All runs don't put you in a desireable place.

We have set our goals based on our first 30 days as expediters. We developed a plan from that time span and follow it as far as expectations and needs to suit our bottom line.
 
jaminjim

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Sorry but I can't completely agree with night.

Provided that you pay attention to your deadhead. For the people who run for a flat rate per mile then it is all about the miles. For those of you that run a percentage of the gross then it is about the profit per mile.

Also to be considered is your minimum net per week/month that you need to meet your requirements. A one mile run @ $1,000 is great but if you only do one run a week/month will you be able to survive?
 
davekc

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Right on. The NET amount is what is of interest. And, that amount sustained over a period of time. Gross amounts mean very little unless you know what was spent to get to that number.
I personally prefer milage pay. Percentage pay leaves the door open to alot of game playing. Several articles in a recent Landline talked about that. Unless you are recieving the actual customer bill, who knows if your percentage is calculated accurate.










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arkjarhead

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
i ran as a company driver for an outfit that paid their tractor trailer drivers 27%. come to find out they were subtracting money from what the customer paid as a fuel surcharge. so if the load paid $1,000 we might get a % of $750 instead of $1000. needless to say i prefer the flat mileage pay. i tend to come out better that way. mainly because i get paid off of my odometer.
 
x06col

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Percentage is the only way to go in this business. I've had oo that demanded pay per mile, and when you put extra freight on them they cry like a stuck hog. I'd say if you are remotely concerned about getting hosed by your partner, I certainly wouldn't be doing business with them anyway. I no longer entertain someone that don't want to be part of a percentage in this business. It's just much better for everyone. Unless, they are happy with their miles, no matter how much freight there is. But, that just will never happen.
 
davekc

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Adding another load is fine, as long as it is added as an addtional seperate load. Milage works just fine in these cases. If I am getting full rate on both, everyone wins.

I should add that, I think the percentage deals work better, but only when doing the shorter runs.











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LDB

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
It seems the percentage pay works out to more per loaded mile but then is open to game playing and issues of what's classified as what so that it pays either 100% or 62% (or whatever the paid % is). While the flat rate is about 10-15% less money, based on my personal experience with both systems, it's far less prone to games and errors since it's pretty hard to hide the odometer from the driver.

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davekc

davekc

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Staff member
Fleet Owner
I would agree on the game playing. We have done both situations with a variety of different carriers, and I will say for now, milage pay has worked best for us.










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Fr8 Shaker

Fr8 Shaker

Veteran Expediter
I think post 9 and down need to re-read the ? asked.
All he was asking was what do you think the (AVERAGE) miles should be per week.
 
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