How low?

layoutshooter

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Just how low can people sink in this country? IF these charges are real it is one of the most DISGUSTING things I have ever heard of. Pretty far down that "slippery slope". UNBELIEVABLE!!!




[h=1]PA abortion clinic worker describes cutting babies[/h]
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A jury weighing murder charges against a Philadelphia abortion provider heard grim testimony about unorthodox procedures used on inner-city clinic patients.


Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, faces the death penalty if convicted of killing seven late-term babies after they were born alive. He is also charged with third-degree murder in the overdose death of a 41-year-old refugee who sought an abortion in 2009.


Medical assistant Adrienne Moton admitted Tuesday that she had cut the necks of at least 10 babies after they were delivered, as Gosnell had instructed her. Gosnell and another employee regularly "snipped" the spines "to ensure fetal demise," she said.


Moton sobbed as she recalled taking a cellphone photograph of one baby because he was bigger than any she had seen aborted before. She measured the fetus at nearly 30 weeks, and thought he could have survived, given his size and pinkish color. Gosnell later joked that the baby was so big he could have walked to the bus stop, she said.


Defense lawyer Jack McMahon disputes that any babies were born alive and challenges the gestational age of the aborted fetuses.


Jurors saw Moton's photograph of the boy called "Baby A" on a large screen in the courtroom, which took on a bizarre look Tuesday as witnesses testified near a hospital bed with stirrups and other aging obstetric equipment. Denied the chance to bring jurors to the shuttered inner-city clinic, prosecutors are instead recreating a patient room in court.


The mother of "Baby A" testified later in the day, describing a painful three-day abortion process that started at Gosnell's other clinic in Delaware. She was 17, had an infant daughter and was told by Gosnell she was 24 weeks pregnant — the legal limit in Pennsylvania, but not in neighboring Delaware, where abortions are banned after 20 weeks.


The woman said she given abortion drugs in Delaware and sent home each of the first two days, then was directed to the West Philadelphia clinic the third day to have the fetus expelled. She was in severe pain by then, pain that only worsened the following week, she said.


Her aunt had taken her to the clinic and paid the $1,300 fee, and they had not told her mother.


"I never felt pain like that, ever," the woman said. "I couldn't talk to anybody and tell anybody."


But the teen ended up being hospitalized for two weeks with a large abscess and a blood clot near her heart. Prosecutors say she is one of countless patients injured during botched abortions or unsanitary conditions.


Moton, 35, had lived with Gosnell's family during high school because of problems at home, then went to work for him years later. She earned about $10 an hour — off the books — to administer drugs, perform ultrasounds, help with abortions and dispose of fetal remains from 2005 to 2008.


She once had to kill a baby delivered in a toilet, cutting its neck with scissors, she said. Asked if she knew that was wrong, she said, "At first I didn't."


Abortions are typically performed in utero.


Moton has pleaded guilty to third-degree murder, which carries a 20- to 40-year term, as well as conspiracy and other charges. She has been in prison since early 2011, when Philadelphia prosecutors arrested Gosnell, his third wife, Pearl, and eight other employees. Most of them have pleaded guilty and are expected to testify.



McMahon told jurors in opening statements Monday that Gosnell returned to the impoverished neighborhood after medical school when he could have struck it rich in the suburbs. He called the prosecution of his client, who is black, "a lynching."


But prosecutors believe Gosnell made plenty of money over a 30-year career using cheap, untrained staff, outdated medicines and barbaric techniques to perform abortions on desperate, low-income women.


And they say he made even more on the side running a "pill mill," where addicts and drug dealers could get prescriptions for potent painkillers. Authorities found $250,000 in cash under a mattress when they searched his home in 2010.


The trial resumes Wednesday morning.







PA abortion clinic worker describes cutting babies
 

RoadTime

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[h=1]PA abortion clinic worker describes cutting babies[/h]
Medical assistant Adrienne Moton admitted Tuesday that she had cut the necks of at least 10 babies after they were delivered, as Gosnell had instructed her. Gosnell and another employee regularly "snipped" the spines "to ensure fetal demise," she said.


That is so disgusting I want to puke :eek: :(
 

davekc

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And to think there is a large segment of society that is just perfectly ok with it.
 

layoutshooter

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Gosnell is a monster who represents neither our country nor our "health care" professionals.

Well, I guess it depends on how you look at it. He is a native born American and a health care professional. There are MANY "monsters" here, professional and other wise. Some elected, others in health care and many other professions. There is NO punishment bad enough if this as the story says.
 

LDB

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That's the pro death people for you. They are murderers. This is a very graphic and horrific example but it is all murder. They cloak it under the misnomer of pro choice but it's pro death. Some of our own here are ardent pro death advocates and supporters. They won't embrace it and claim it and admit it and acknowledge they are pro death. They will only claim they are pro choice, but they are pro death. They may not be in the room snipping spines and cutting jugulars but they support it.

The opposite of life is NOT choice. The opposite of life is death. Pro Life or Pro Death are the choices.
 

RoadTime

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Very true. I just never can seem to get my head around the folks who fight for all the animal rights but seem ok with this.

In a way this reminds me of watching a disturbing animal rights group video of the Pennsylvania (killing for sport) pigeon shoots. Which I thought was barbaric enough, let alone have the children run around collecting the survivors and snapping their necks or beating till dead.

It is 2013 right :confused: It is beyond my comprehension how anyone could place so little value on human life. I hope those involved receive the maxium penilty for these hanus acts. I'll be sitting in the corner sucking my thumb until I can get these descriptive images out of my head. Oddly I thought my 400th post would be more up beat :(
 

layoutshooter

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In a way this reminds me of watching a disturbing animal rights group video of the Pennsylvania (killing for sport) pigeon shoots. Which I thought was barbaric enough, let alone have the children run around collecting the survivors and snapping their necks or beating till dead.

It is 2013 right :confused: It is beyond my comprehension how anyone could place so little value on human life. I hope those involved receive the maxium penilty for these hanus acts. I'll be sitting in the corner sucking my thumb until I can get these descriptive images out of my head. Oddly I thought my 400th post would be more up beat :(

2013 is just another year in our decline in respect for human life. It started a long time ago and is accelerating. It makes you wonder how long it will be till we do the same with our old folks.
 

AMonger

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While this may be a but more grisly than other prenatal infantacide, there's morally no difference. It's all first-degree murder.
 

AMonger

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FAR too many in this country believe that animals are equal too, or even above, human life.
I like to watch Whale Wars. Those hippies are so gaga over whales, it's ridiculous. Yet, being leftist hippies, I bet each & every one is in favor of prenatal infantacide.
 

layoutshooter

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If we have people in this country that are disgusting enough to do what is alleged in this article why is it any wonder we have people willing to gun down school children, attack a movie theater or mall? With people this evil out there why is it that government believes that they can put an end to these things with more laws? The laws that already make these things illegal did not stop the crimes.

Until we, as a nation, start teaching respect for human life, nothing will change and the decline will continue.
 

Tennesseahawk

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And to think there is a large segment of society that is just perfectly ok with it.

I don't know about a large segment of society being ok with murder. They may be ok with an abortion, which is not murder, where killing the baby is done within the mother. Once that fetus crosses the threshold of the mother's vaginal opening, it is miraculously a human being. So sayeth the Supreme Court of the Land.

I think it's all hogwash... it's a states issue. But what this guy did is downright deplorable.
 

AMonger

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I don't know about a large segment of society being ok with murder. They may be ok with an abortion, which is not murder, where killing the baby is done within the mother. Once that fetus crosses the threshold of the mother's vaginal opening, it is miraculously a human being. So sayeth the Supreme Court of the Land.

I think it's all hogwash... it's a states issue. But what this guy did is downright deplorable.
The Supreme Court can't redefine life. Prenatal infanticide is murder from the nanosecond of conception. Once the spermatazoa breaks the plane, that's a baby, like it or not.
 

Tennesseahawk

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The Supreme Court can't redefine life. Prenatal infanticide is murder from the nanosecond of conception. Once the spermatazoa breaks the plane, that's a baby, like it or not.

Well, the SC overrides the opinion of a couple of truckers. But I like how nothing is states rights anymore... it's all "I believe this, so that's how everyone should do it." That goes for you, Amogner, Leo, and several others, on both sides.
 
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