That is pretty nice of you to discount fellow American so easily because they too might be victims of Obamas policies and lost their job and now you want to take their voting rights away.....
How free are we?
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Fixed it.
ok,,,its friday nite,,,some folks need to watch Just for Men-Part 2 n face the music, lol
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
I know. I have all this power, and can take anyone's vote away. It's my opinion, which doesn't matter much; cause in the end, everyone has one... and a butthole.
We can agree on that at least....LOL
If there is no reason to " WATCH" you then nobody will be looking.... and if they do happen to look and find nothing then they will have no reason to pursue... and anyone that denounces this country and proclaims jihad on our citizens, no longer is an American or citizen and loses any autonomy.
Let us ask these folks about loss of autonomy,land,respect, u decide.
Many Native Americans and advocates of Native American rights point out that the U.S. federal government's claim to recognize the "sovereignty" of Native American peoples falls short, given that the U.S. wishes to govern Native American peoples and treat them as subject to U.S. law. Such advocates contend that full respect for Native American sovereignty would require the US government to deal with Native American peoples in the same manner as any other sovereign nation, handling matters related to relations with Native Americans through the Secretary of State, rather than the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Bureau of Indian Affairs reports on its website that its "responsibility is the administration and management of 55,700,000 acres (225,000 km2) of land held in trust by the United States for American Indians, Indian tribes, and Alaska Natives."[117] Many Native Americans and advocates of Native American rights believe that it is condescending for such lands to be considered "held in trust" and regulated in any fashion by other than their own tribes, whether the U.S. or Canadian governments, or any other non-Native American authority.
As of 2000, the largest tribes in the U.S. by population were Navajo, Cherokee, Choctaw, Sioux, Chippewa, Apache, Blackfeet, Iroquois, and Pueblo. In 2000, eight of ten Americans with Native American ancestry were of mixed ancestry. It is estimated that by 2100 that figure will rise to nine out of ten.[118] In addition, there are a number of tribes that are recognized by individual states, but not by the federal government. The rights and benefits associated with state recognition vary from state to state.
Some tribal nations have been unable to document the cultural continuity required for federal recognition. The Muwekma Ohlone of the San Francisco bay area are pursuing litigation in the federal court system to establish recognition.[119] Many of the smaller eastern tribes, long considered remnants of extinct peoples, have been trying to gain official recognition of their tribal status. Several in Virginia and North Carolina have gained state recognition. Federal recognition confers some benefits, including the right to label arts and crafts as Native American and permission to apply for grants that are specifically reserved for Native Americans. But gaining federal recognition as a tribe is extremely difficult; to be established as a tribal group, members have to submit extensive genealogical proof of tribal descent and continuity of the tribe as a culture.
Now,,how free are we,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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AMonger
Veteran Expediter
And it's not just the gummint's feelings, but others who feel rights should be delineated not by law, but how they feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel. Weenies every one of them.
I guess you don't do cross border loads.
Where were you in the the late 50's 60's when we the people had our homes raided and water cannons pointed at you to be blown down for no reason but for the fun of being different. Where were you when we the people were asked to take a blood test just because someone was scared.
Where were you when we the people lost our farms and everything you had just because there was no one buying your goods. Where you when we the people were told you could not eat there or ride a bus or just use a restroom.
Where were you when we the people was hit with sticks by the police at your home and all you did was have birthday party.
So you say the people should not have any help. What I am saying don't get old or sick or have no job with your bills pilling. This is my country I say that because my people was here before the first ship showed up with the first white man it was my people who keeped and gave food to those people. It is we the people who was killed from hate over our land it we the people who had all of our lives up rooted and told were we had to live. So who is not free. So where do you stand.
I stand with the people who have learn the wrongs and those who want to just live and die. I stand with the people who enjoy a happy life to do some of the things I was told I could do. To me freedom is not free if someone has to go hungry. Freedom is not free if someone falls but no one is there to help them to get that person back on their feet.
I always loved my friends where ever they came. It too easy to just point and say you are sorry and get out our way. The hard part when it comes to you being you and let me be me. That's how you build a country. Thanks with love from Linda and Micheal
Where were you when we the people lost our farms and everything you had just because there was no one buying your goods. Where you when we the people were told you could not eat there or ride a bus or just use a restroom.
Where were you when we the people was hit with sticks by the police at your home and all you did was have birthday party.
So you say the people should not have any help. What I am saying don't get old or sick or have no job with your bills pilling. This is my country I say that because my people was here before the first ship showed up with the first white man it was my people who keeped and gave food to those people. It is we the people who was killed from hate over our land it we the people who had all of our lives up rooted and told were we had to live. So who is not free. So where do you stand.
I stand with the people who have learn the wrongs and those who want to just live and die. I stand with the people who enjoy a happy life to do some of the things I was told I could do. To me freedom is not free if someone has to go hungry. Freedom is not free if someone falls but no one is there to help them to get that person back on their feet.
I always loved my friends where ever they came. It too easy to just point and say you are sorry and get out our way. The hard part when it comes to you being you and let me be me. That's how you build a country. Thanks with love from Linda and Micheal
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
I agree with some of what you wrote, but the following is pure, unadulterated crap.
Freedom necessarily entails the freedom to fail. If you are protected from falling by a safety net built from earnings confiscated from someone else's paycheck, then they're not free. What one person receives without earning it, another must labor for without receiving. There's a word for that, and that word is theft.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Helping another who has fallen is just the right thing to do.
I will even help you.
I'm happy to hear that. But being compelled to help me is another matter. Having your earnings that you worked for confiscated and redistributed makes you a slave, not charitable. That's why the Church and other civic organizations are the only proper collective venues for charity, after family, friends, and neighbors.
I see it you believe you should only pay taxes if those taxes go to what you want, I understand that we all pay taxes. So you say the Police and fire steal there are payed with those taxes. Teachers also get payed with those same taxes and the roads. So if I don't have children or have a car I should not pay for it. We all pay for the wars, I say just don't pay your taxes. I pay what is needed to live in this country. I have no problems if it goes to others who are having problems.
You live here you work here and you want to be protected here those things cost. We work and save if we can but if you are let go you want some kind protection to help. Someone has to pay for it. No taxes mean no cities or towns.
I like having my money and can do without Police that just crazy. Police are here and they need things like cars guns. Taxes pay for it so stop paying.Thanks from Linda and Micheal
You live here you work here and you want to be protected here those things cost. We work and save if we can but if you are let go you want some kind protection to help. Someone has to pay for it. No taxes mean no cities or towns.
I like having my money and can do without Police that just crazy. Police are here and they need things like cars guns. Taxes pay for it
so stop paying.Thanks from Linda and Micheal
I see it you believe you should only pay taxes if those taxes go to what you want, I understand that we all pay taxes. So you say the Police and fire steal there are payed with those taxes. Teachers also get payed with those same taxes and the roads. So if I don't have children or have a car I should not pay for it. We all pay for the wars, I say just don't pay your taxes. I pay what is needed to live in this country. I have no problems if it goes to others who are having problems.
You live here you work here and you want to be protected here those things cost. We work and save if we can but if you are let go you want some kind protection to help. Someone has to pay for it. No taxes mean no cities or towns.
I like having my money and can do without Police that just crazy. Police are here and they need things like cars guns. Taxes pay for it
Your wasting your breath....it is people like you are responding to that would starve to death in a food store....
Monty
Expert Expediter
If you desire taxes, then place them at the local level. The all encompassing FEDERAL government has no business in states affairs.
When those taxes are levied at a more local level then those taxed have some, (not much), control of it's use.
Why should I, a resident of Ohio, be held responsible for the woe's of California residents?
The 10th amendment is pretty clear who is sovergin in this nation.
When those taxes are levied at a more local level then those taxed have some, (not much), control of it's use.
Why should I, a resident of Ohio, be held responsible for the woe's of California residents?
The 10th amendment is pretty clear who is sovergin in this nation.
Who pays for the military then?....and the general costs of Federal Government?
Monty
Expert Expediter
U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
Article 1, section 8 defines what powers the Federal government shall have, anything NOT listed there remains the pervue of the states.
What so many confuse is the FERERAL government did NOT create the States, the States created, (via contract), the Federal government. That contract has been breached time and again.
Just as some say the Indian nations are free and independent of the Federal overlords, so are the various states. Each state is a free and independent nation unto it's self. The fact they chose to become "incorporated" into the federal system did not deny them the status of independence in managing their affirs.
Article 1, section 8 defines what powers the Federal government shall have, anything NOT listed there remains the pervue of the states.
What so many confuse is the FERERAL government did NOT create the States, the States created, (via contract), the Federal government. That contract has been breached time and again.
Just as some say the Indian nations are free and independent of the Federal overlords, so are the various states. Each state is a free and independent nation unto it's self. The fact they chose to become "incorporated" into the federal system did not deny them the status of independence in managing their affirs.
I' am trying to understand Monty.....you saying there should not be a Federal Army?....No Pentagon?