How free are we?

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
I think most people, aside from D12 neocons, has figured out that freedom is gone. But for those who havent figured it out, this writer puts it well.

Someone famous once said: "Any festering moron can learn from his own mistakes; it takes a genius to learn from the mistakes of others." (or something similar). Actually, there is a small group of us who have. We never lived under communism but we know it is bad and won't work. We knew Social Security couldn't work. We knew the War on Poverty was a loser going in. We knew Medicare was doom. We knew Obama's stimulus package would harm the economy not help it. We know a constitutional republic works -- when you have one. We know the EBOs (European Bail Outs) are no better than throwing gas on a fire. There is a small, hearty band of us who have knowledge that didn't come from personal experience. When it is shared among so few, it is hard to call it "Common Sense" any more.

I now understand why old men talk about the "good old days." It is more than "once, I was young." I can look to the past and see the unrelenting growth of government. See an ever spreading dark evil covering the land of the free and home of the brave. I feel the smothering regulations of thousands of faceless tyrants. A nanny state enforcing all that is good for me from womb to tomb.

Stossel said recently, "We are freer today than we have ever been."* I say, when you only walk in circles, you never notice the perimeter fence. We are not free. We have only reduced our expectation of freedom to match these oppressive times. If you haven't had contact with today's government, you don't know how vile it is. The government doesn't kick down everyone's door or shoot everyone's dog but isn't even one too many? It you don't know a secret warrant has been used to search your house are you still free? If you don't know a drone is spying on you from the sky, are you still free? When a red light camera is your accuser in court, is there still justice? When the president of the United States can kill an American citizen without a trial, is this still a nation of laws?

I know. I know. We are all way too busy trying to live our real lives to worry about politics and government and idiots running for elected office. I pray we will all find comfort in our excuses - for in the end, our excuses will be all we have.

Brian Wilson [send him mail], nationally ignored talk show host and occasional LRC un-indicted co-contributor, is currently annoying miniscule audiences in a number of markets from his technically challenged studios safely outside the dictatorship of Toledo. Brian may be endured from 3p–6p at www.wspd.com.

Copyright © 2012 by LewRockwell.com. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.
 
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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I know Brian, the writer of this article, he is a a member of the Libertarian Party and writes for Lew Rockwell, he also does a political talk show on WSPD radio in my home town...he is also a national talk show host and a blog writer..he has no use for barry and for the most part any of our current government as it is today...which you can tell from the article...for him it is not simply barry, it the whole mess that is or fed gov and that has over taken the people....

This line is soo telling and accurate:

Stossel said recently, "We are freer today than we have ever been."* I say, when you only walk in circles, you never notice the perimeter fence. We are not free. We have only reduced our expectation of freedom to match these oppressive times.

If you care to, you can hear Brian at the link below online fron 1500 to 1800 monday thru Friday...he covers alot of local toledo stuff but also the National news and has gtrat interview with national pundits...

http://www.iheart.com/#/live/1857/?autoplay=true

And yes the system we HAD worked just fine..it was the people allowing the government to slowly take the power from the people and move it to the government under the faults cover of "taking care of everyone"...WELFARE from the STATE...that has killed what we were given by the founders.....
 
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skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I know Brian, the writer of this article, he is a a member of the Libertarian Party and writes for Lew Rockwell, he also does a political talk show on WSPD radio in my home town...he is also a national talk show host and a blog writer..he has no use for barry and for the most part any of our current government as it is today...which you can tell from the article...for him it is not simply barry, it the whole mess that is or fed gov and that has over taken the people....

This line is soo telling and accurate:



If you care to, you can hear Brian at the link below online fron 1500 to 1800 monday thru Friday...he covers alot of local toledo stuff but also the National news and has gtrat interview with national pundits...

iHeartRadio | Real & Custom Radio Stations - Listen Free Online

And yes the system we HAD worked just fine..it was the people allowing the government to slowly take the power from the people and move it to the government under the faults cover of "taking care of everyone"...WELFARE from the STATE...that has killed what we were given by the founders.....

Well to tell u the truth, my 10 G Sansung Iphone with a 10 speed tranny can solve all ur needs, thats what the ads say, cause it came from the internet,imho. :rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Absolutely it's worked. It's only when idiot presidents, starting with Andrew Jackson, need to "make it better", when it has gone downhill, and turned into a *gasp* democracy.

Wow..it worked for a whole 73 years.....when the world was much smaller...and the US was nothing but a child...in world terms....
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
That's two.

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No....IMO 73 years is not a measuring stick at all....1 generation at best 2....mostly of the people who wrote the Constitution and their offspring.....then the country started to grow and prosper....the people wanted more....as evident by the voters...the people spoke thru the legal process.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
No....IMO 73 years is not a measuring stick at all....1 generation at best 2....mostly of the people who wrote the Constitution and their offspring.....then the country started to grow and prosper....the people wanted more....as evident by the voters...the people spoke thru the legal process.

The way change is supposed to happen is by amendment. It is people seeking change via the legal process helping to screw thingd up. One of the days we are going to be like, gasp Canada.

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
don't look now....you already are.....and passing them....you have SS, Unemployment Ins, Medicare, disability, welfare....and high taxes...there is absolutely no difference, except the Canada SS has a surplus,
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
don't look now....you already are.....and passing them....you have SS, Unemployment Ins, Medicare, disability, welfare....and high taxes...there is absolutely no difference, except the Canada SS has a surplus,

All government mandates that were NOT put to a vote of the people...just put in motion by the government...and the sheeple went along and those that feel its BS are forced into...oh and they are all broke...
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Well to tell u the truth, my 10 G Sansung Iphone with a 10 speed tranny can solve all ur needs, thats what the ads say, cause it came from the internet,imho. :rolleyes:

Gee, I'd have thought a guy as smart as you would know how to click on the blue box that says: "Play Station"...:rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
All government mandates that were NOT put to a vote of the people...just put in motion by the government...and the sheeple went along and those that feel its BS are forced into...oh and they are all broke...
I've said before....IF the elected officials. feels that is what the people want...put it to a vote...or make an Amendment.
 
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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
The Gov't shouldn't feel anything :runsaway:

You are absolutely right, but the libs all work from emotion and their need to "take care" and "Fixed" everything for the masses, especially for the "under-privileged"....its all about "feeling"...
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
No....IMO 73 years is not a measuring stick at all....1 generation at best 2....mostly of the people who wrote the Constitution and their offspring.....then the country started to grow and prosper....the people wanted more....as evident by the voters...the people spoke thru the legal process.

I told you it started with Andrew Jackson. He changed it so it wasn't just landowners who could vote. Then people started wanting crap. Those darned renters! :p

When people don't have anything to lose, they shouldn't be part of the process, IMO.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I told you it started with Andrew Jackson. He changed it so it wasn't just landowners who could vote. Then people started wanting crap. Those darned renters! :p

When people don't have anything to lose, they shouldn't be part of the process, IMO.

The "zero- liability voters" ...barrys favorite type..if you took their right to vote away, them barry would have about 10-15 people voting for him...
 

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I told you it started with Andrew Jackson. He changed it so it wasn't just landowners who could vote. Then people started wanting crap. Those darned renters! :p

When people don't have anything to lose, they shouldn't be part of the process, IMO.

Excuse me? Because I rent and am not a landowner, I should not be able to vote? Is that correct?
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Excuse me? Because I rent and am not a landowner, I should not be able to vote? Is that correct?

I'm saying that that was the way it used to be, and it might have been a mistake to change it. People with NO INTEREST in the politic should have no place in the process. Additionally, people who are on the government dole should have no ability to vote more goodies for themselves.
 
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