How Expediting has changed from 20 years ago.

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Most of the Expedite drivers today don't remember how Expediting was twenty years ago. Expediting has came a long way since the days of Que pagers, Qualcom pagers, and paper log books. Expediters now have cell phones, Expediters Online, bigger sleepers with trucks that will do almost anything but drive themselves. The QC didn't do your log book, the drivers did. You didn't have Com Data doing your mileage reports, the driver did them with every load. A mileage report is where you had to write your mileage down at the start of your trip then every time you crossed a state line you had to write it down. Then you ended it at your delivery. The driver then had to total up all the miles for each state and what routes you drove on, then send it in with each load you did. That was a lot of paperwork back then that had to be sent to the carrier you was leased on with. No trip packs to go to and scan your paperwork to back then.

Most expedite carriers didn't pay a FSC as fuel was less than a dollar a gallon. Owners payed teams 50% of the gross income to the truck and the team paid the fuel and tolls. The trucks that came with 48 inch double bunk sleepers that had no TV, Refrigerator, Microwave or any of the comforts of home. Some trucks only had one bed in the sleeper because most Expediters got 65% of the load going away from home and 46% if the load was going toward there home. Most Expediters back then would leave from home and then go back home and wait for there next load. Carriers like Roberts Express and Tri- State Expediting would pay for hotels for drivers if they didn't have a load after 18:00 to keep them out in the system. Drivers would turn down loads more at home than if they was away from home.

The new age sleepers came about from Dan Schultz of Freightliner of Knoxville and Keith Bentz of Bentz Transport Products. The sleepers back then was very small and Keith Bentz started building 72 inch sleepers using Freightliner FL 60,70,80,106,and 112 series trucks. Back then 90% of the sleepers was made by Bentz Transport Products until the economy got really bad and nobody was buying new trucks. Sadly Bentz Transport Products closed it doors due to the slow down in the economy back in 2009. Don Bentz a cousin of Keith Bentz has since started building sleepers again as Bolt Sleepers with Jeff Jones of Stoops Freightliner.

Back then Expediters would hang out at the Detroiter Truck Stop in Woodhaven, MI. All the vans would be parked out front and the C and D units would go back and park in the paid lot with the rest of the big trucks. Sometimes you was able to get one of the six free parking spots outside the paid lot and save on the $10.00 charge. If you wasn't there you was parked out behind the Denny's on Fourteen Mile road on the north side of Detroit. These are some of the many places where we all sat and talked about the world of expediting. It was funny back then to see a QC pager go off and everyone check to see if it was them getting a load offer on the Qualcom or C-link as we called it back then.

Back then we didn't have Expediters Online or Expedite Now Magazine. Expediters Online started back in 1999 by a fleet van owner that had the insight to see the need for a web page for Expediters and carriers to come too. Yea, we had Jroman.com back then but it was nothing like the concept of Expediters Online. A few years later Expedite Now Magazine came about along with the Expediters Expo. If your new to expediting and see a veteran Expediter like DaveKC, Geo, or Dreamer just ask them how much expediting has changed the last twenty years.

Happy Expediting
 
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Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Actually, weren't the rates higher 20 years ago ?

Not really, a full rate C load was $1.31 per mile and a full rate D load was $1.41 per mile. We got .10 a mile for deadhead after 100 miles. Back in 1995 they changed the percentage at Robert Express from 65% going away from home and 46% going toward home to 58% for all loads. Most of the loads back then was auto freight which was discounted. It paid more per mile for load under 300 miles than the loads over 300 miles. Some loads back then they was offering at less than a $1.00 a mile.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Not really, a full rate C load was $1.31 per mile and a full rate D load was $1.41 per mile. We got .10 a mile for deadhead after 100 miles. Back in 1995 they changed the percentage at Robert Express from 65% going away from home and 46% going toward home to 58% for all loads. Most of the loads back then was auto freight which was discounted. It paid more per mile for load under 300 miles than the loads over 300 miles. Some loads back then they was offering at less than a $1.00 a mile.


What would those rates look like in today's money? Fuel was MUCH lower back then as well. We are seeing many offers at $1.31 per, with today's fuel cost and with today's money. Rate are MUCH lower today than they were today.
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
Why would drivers/owners not do mileage reports now? Meaning at the very least monitor what the carrier reports. Or have we as a whole just learned to accept what is handed to us by the carriers?
Im thinking anyone buying their own fuel needs to do their own mileage reports or your Q tax report is going to be way off base with what the carrier reports. Carrier miles and actual miles can and will vary if you allow your Q reports to be based strickly on carrier routing.

Judging by the last few months of drive bys the Detroiter is coming back to life..Allmost any given day lately there is 10 to 20 some vans on layover there.

So not everything is changing as I see it but Hey arnt we all about change anyways in this day and age.:D
 

Murraycroexp

Veteran Expediter
Whew!! What a night!! And to top it off, Sally and I BOTH got loads picking today out of Nashylvania dropping 67 miles from home!!

#shouldabookedthedowntownhotel
 

runrunner

Veteran Expediter
The only thing that stays the same is everything changes. Sure do miss the old days,guess all us old people say that. Would I go back? Hell no! Gotta move forward.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
"Everything has changed but the rates" Actually quite a lot of truth in that. It has become much more competitive thanks to technology. The old veil of secrecy has been lifted. Some were quick to change and some still haven't figured it out. Probably also contributed to the camaraderie you had then compared to now. It was quite the gig for many years where you could make money hand over fist and still make a ton of mistakes along the way. Ask me how I know.;)
It is different now when some are doing real well and some are not. Back then, everyone was cashing in.
Not so much today as the smaller margins and government intervention has put a constant headwind on todays drivers and carriers.
It was a tough way to run with trucks that beat you to death, small sleepers with no comforts, some with no ac, always tied to a pay phone when it was pouring or freezing and so forth.
Entertainment was the cb or AM radio.
I will say though compared to other businesses and opportunities (which seem limited in todays economy) I still think it is a pretty good gig. The risks and exposure have increased but so has just about everything else I can think of.
Well.....except maybe being a politician. The ROI on that profession is still pretty good. :cool:
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
Very true and in the early days the carrier paid for them.

LOL. In the short time I been here I have managed to weasel a few for a driver. Its a hard sell now to get dispatch to spring for a room but if they really really want em to sit tight they just may do it.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
20 years ago it was 1993. Cell phones or car phones were available back then. I had one for my construction business. With the money people were making in those days it seems they could afford it. Why didn't they have them?
Hotel rooms for $3? Where? I remember paying $25 around that time for a cheap room.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Probably thinking mid to late 80's. I think back then Ameritech (early 90's) ran the first service but it didn't provide service everywhere. The answer I guess was using QC and a pager system.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
What would those rates look like in today's money? Fuel was MUCH lower back then as well. We are seeing many offers at $1.31 per, with today's fuel cost and with today's money. Rate are MUCH lower today than they were today.

From: Profound Information for All Expediters

Adjusted for inflation over the last ten years, the $2.50 per mile we were happy to get when we started in 2003 would be 184 percent higher today, or $4.60
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
If we could get a rate of $4 per mile today there would be 10 times more people trying to get into expediting. There are already to many vans and straight trucks seem to be just about at capacity. Our rates are low due to supply and demand. And people who run cheap freight.
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
Hotel rooms for $3? Where? I remember paying $25 around that time for a cheap room.

Ya gotta try to remember we may have strayed off topic and started to refer to Daves lenght of service.:)
3 dollar rooms I dont remeber but seems I can remeber what they use to call efficient rooms, not hotels for 8 or 10 bucks??

(May have been the flop houses now refered to as crack houses.)
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
3 dollar rooms I dont remeber but seems I can remeber what they use to call efficient rooms, not hotels for 8 or 10 bucks??
Some truck stops had rooms. Many Union 76 truck stops had small rooms with a black and white TV and a twin bed. A common bathroom with showers was down the hall. All of this for under $10 a night.
 
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