How can my contract be valid when they aren't giving me loads?

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I have been at this for only 10 weeks now, with the last week staying home to insulate my van and get my buddy heater working properly. I rode with a friend almost three years ago for about four months and I thought I might like to do this, so when I got home, I started reading on here like they are saying. I read everything I could and then started asking questions. These guys won't sugar-coat anything, but they have all been honest about their replies, why wouldn't they be. Look at how many seasoned drivers are on this board. They are not doing anything extremely different that what you are doing, but they are making money, or they would not still be here. I was frustrated the first couple of weeks and questioning myself if I made the right choice, but my new van had broke down, and I got a run to California, which took it's toll on me to get out of there. After 9 weeks though, I was able to save enough money to head home and insulate the van, while missing a week of work. I have a brand new van payment, so you know I need to make money out here. Try to stay positive, negativity is your worst friend. If you start getting upset and complaining to people you work with, they will start to want to ignore your calls. Stay personable and get to know your dispatchers, you will find the ones you like and feel comfortable with, and this will also help in the long run. Just like they have all said on here, I have had some really crappy weeks, but then I have run my butt off and that made up for those bad weeks. I am at home in Florida and I know this is not the place to be, but I will wait a day or so and hope to hit a home run out of here, or I will head to Georgia or South Carolina. I have a long way to go, but I am really enjoying the journey I am on, and I can't wait for the Expo to meet and learn much more from these people on here.

Best of luck, Taz
I live in western SD I accept my fate as far as loads in and out....!
 
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ttruck

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
I've been sitting since last Tuesday. I haven't made any money for almost a week. I just started with this company almost 3 weeks ago. My first week they had me busy and running, but the second week was nothing but sitting. In a straight truck.
I can't be sitting out here making no money.
if u don't like sitting ur in the wrong biz.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
But that doesn't even make sense? How can anyone expect you go be out here not making any money? This isn't volunteer work...

Contracts are for the benefit of both parties, not just the company's benefit at the contractor's expense...

What you say is true, but it is important to get clear about the meaning of "benefit." When you entered into your contract with your motor carrier, what benefits did you agree (in writing) to provide to the carrier? When they entered into the contract with you, what benefits did they agree (in writing) to provide to you?
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I might as well pile on too. A quickie look through my contract---- no guarantees that I'll get any freight. Not a single word. Well, really---- think of it. We're all in some form of emergency delivery service. If the customers don't call, dispatch can't make a load appear out of thin air to place on my van.

The first full week of this year, I sat the entire week. Called in every morning like I always do, then busied myself with other activities waiting for the phone to ring. It didn't ring. Not even once.

I've had other weeks this year that ran real thin. Short runs that paid little, and then only one or two of those.

Then I've had weeks where I all but had a license to print money. Had to make them give me a break.

Nobody guarantees nuthin' in this business. Except that you'll sit from time to time, for varying amounts of time. More when you're new and you don't know when to move and where to move to when things are slow. (Yes, Virginia-- sometimes you do have to deadhead to a better spot.)
 

JohnMueller

Moderator
Staff member
Motor Carrier Executive
Safety & Compliance
Carrier Management
Bigdogg - as much as I would love to post on the plea for comments on your beloved Patriots - I refuse to post because my mom always said "if you don't have anything nice to say....."

I will say GO STEELERS! You can do it again this weekend in Cleveland......
 

bigdogg

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
Bigdogg - as much as I would love to post on the plea for comments on your beloved Patriots - I refuse to post because my mom always said "if you don't have anything nice to say....."

I will say GO STEELERS! You can do it again this weekend in Cleveland......
Thats okay John, I get that a lot. Just glad its football season
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Out of curiosity, how much did you study and prepare for this career? I'm not out to beat you up. I'm out to help anyone coming along reading this. Your posts so far sound like it was very little. Anyone reading this and interested in expediting should understand it isn't just getting into a truck and turning a key just as dental hygienist isn't merely buying some picks and a spit sink and a plumber isn't buying a wrench and pants too short to cover your ass.

Anyone wanting those careers has to go to great lengths of studying and education. For expediting it is here at the EO university. At a minimum an expediting student should read back at least 3 years in the General, Newbies and Recruiter forums, every single thread title. Any thread that sounds educational and informative should be read in it's entirety. That will provide enough education to hold an apprentice title and be ready to pursue the career and a journeyman rating.

Anything 3 years back is 95% van talk, or just plain rubbish. If he/she goes back too far, they will run into outdated material. Better the latter than the former.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
There are no guarantees in this business, if no one makes a mistake we dont have freight. This is not truckload where freight is preplanned most of the time. Sorry you had to find out the hard way but you should have known this already. Be patient and things should even themselves out. Some weeks are good and some bad. Take advice from us long time expediters and weather the slow weeks and cherish the good and dont spend all you earn. Expediting is just another form of legalized gambling. Do you feel lucky, well, do ya !!!!!!!!!!

You mean I'm actually preplanned, and my dispatchers aren't miracle workers? :angelic:

Yeah, I do feel lucky, punk! :cat:
 

BobWolf

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Since I own the truck, insurance, and run under my own authority, I always negotiate into the contracts, or at least as a "gentlemen's agreement" an unwritten agreement, If they don't have work available or I'm just in a bad location like New England or other locations I reserve the right to get my truck moving again with the understanding that I advise them where I'm heading and they have first dibs on the truck when the job is completed and they have work available..
The important thing to keep in mind is try to get the truck back into a busy S/T area or preferably the territory the company specializes in or they are working on setting up a load.

Allot of companies wont allow this to be officially written into the contract but as long as you don't abuse this PRIVILAGE, or attempt to back solicit most decent companies will allow you to get to work.

Good luck.
Bob Wolf.
 

BobWolf

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
If your in a company truck hit them up for a $50.00 perdiem to cover your on road expenses.
 

QuickPUD

Active Expediter
Researching
Think of this is you being a tow truck driver parked on the side of the road waiting for someone to have an accident or breakdown. You're an opportunistic vulture waiting... waiting... waiting... to take advantage of someone else's misfortune.

Think of this as you being an ambulance driver, or a firefighter, sitting there waiting... waiting... waiting... for something bad to happen, and you rush to the rescue.

Think of this as fishing. You bait the hook, throw the line into the water, and sit there waiting... waiting... waiting for the bobber to, you know, bob. You get a few nibbles, and then a strike, and things go nuts for a while as you land that fish. Then, you sit back down, bait the hook, and do it all over again.

Think of this as you're Otis Redding and you're sittin' in the morning sun, and you'll be sittin' when the evening comes,
Watching the ships roll in, then you'll watch them roll away again, yeah.

You're sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watchin' the tide roll away, ooh
Your just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time... :D

Thanks, Turtle.

Could you explain this, "Slow and steady, even in expediting, wins the race"?
 

RoadTime

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Think of this is you being a tow truck driver parked on the side of the road waiting for someone to have an accident or breakdown. You're an opportunistic vulture waiting... waiting... waiting... to take advantage of someone else's misfortune.

Yeah, I think tow truck drivers have a lot in common with us. On my way to Iowa yesterday, I thought I was coming up on a huge accident, due to all the lights I was seeing.
Turned out to be a two car minor accident, with 11 tow trucks standing by. Talk about ambulance chasing lol.
 
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