Homeland Security, u can figure this out..what a can of worms..

skyraider

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Home land security will most likely be cleaning out their desk, so to speak escorted to their car in the parking lot. What a cluster u know what,,,,FUBAR IS THE WORD
 

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If heads don't roll in the Secret Service we can only expect more of the same. The Trump attempt was the result of a major screw-up with failure to secure those buildings only 130 yds away. They should've widened their secure perimeter. Trump and the other candidates need to hire private military contractors who know what they're doing.
 
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If heads don't roll in the Secret Service we can only expect more of the same. The Trump attempt was the result of a major screw-up with failure to secure those buildings only 130 yds away. They should've widened their secure perimeter. Trump and the other candidates need to hire private military contractors who know what they're doing.
Trump is not the current president so his security detail does not have the funds or people required to be able to secure an area like they do with the current president. Even Trump himself is not blaming the secret service, he thanked them for everything they did.

He has had a hell of a week, first he disavowed project 2025, then one of his own takes a shot at him, and I guess the message was received because he picked the most right wing religious nut job as his vp.
 
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And now it begins, investigation after investigation on the blunder of the good ole Homeland Security...............plus more...yep its FUBAR time ladies and gents......
 
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Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigned this morning after a disastrous appearance before the House committee yesterday. Both parties were critical of her incompetence and her refusal to answer even basic questions. Her attitude and performance were almost identical to that of her boss, DHS Secretary Alejandro Majorkas. Now we have to wonder if he, Biden - or whomever is in charge - will appoint another equally bad DEI hire as her replacement.
 

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Typical conservative arrogance in full effect when she appeared in the house, they DEMANDED an answer as to how this happened, and how DARE she not be able to answer them.

You can make plans to take into account many different variables but there are always more variables that you cant plan for. This guy didnt talk to anyone about his plans, that is how he was able to pull this off. The secret service is a well oiled machine, they are very good at what they do, but they are not perfect, just like the ones that did the questioning the other day, even now they will never admit they are not perfect, another flaw of conservatism.....
 
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Typical conservative arrogance in full effect when she appeared in the house, they DEMANDED an answer as to how this happened, and how DARE she not be able to answer them.
Members of both parties had every right to demand answers from her regarding this epic failure in security protocols. Members of both parties were equally outraged when she refused to provide the most basic information about procedures that weren't put in place or ignored in Butler, PA. Furthermore, she didn't even take the trouble to visit the site of the rally.

Almost every Democrat on the committee called for her resignation and Jamie Raskin co-signed the letter with James Comer demanding her resignation. There was ZERO arrogance directed towards her by either party, but both sides were equally disgusted by her arrogance directed at them combined with her incompetence at doing her job.
 
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He has had a hell of a week, first he disavowed project 2025, then one of his own takes a shot at him, and I guess the message was received because he picked the most right wing religious nut job as his vp.
Care to elaborate what you meant by this and your basis to conclude?
 
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Care to elaborate what you meant by this and your basis to conclude?
The shooter was a registered republican, they said his parents were libertarians, sounds like he was one of the never trumpers. The republicans are using Trump, once he gets elected I bet they will have him killed because he is not actually a conservative.
 

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The shooter was a registered republican, they said his parents were libertarians, sounds like he was one of the never trumpers.
Actually, we know very little about Crooks and his family. He was a registered Republican but had never voted because of his age. He donated money to Act Blue when he was 17. One would think the media would be more prolific about the Crooks family information but that's not the case. All we know for sure is that he was a mental case. His family must have realized this.
The republicans are using Trump, once he gets elected I bet they will have him killed because he is not actually a conservative.
This is one of the most absurd ideas ever posted on this forum.
 
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Actually, we know very little about Crooks and his family. He was a registered Republican but had never voted because of his age. He donated money to Act Blue when he was 17. One would think the media would be more prolific about the Crooks family information but that's not the case. All we know for sure is that he was a mental case. His family must have realized this.

This is one of the most absurd ideas ever posted on this forum.
The media doesn’t seem too interested it appears.
Wonder how much liability the parents have in this.
 

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The shooter was a registered republican, they said his parents were libertarians, sounds like he was one of the never trumpers. The republicans are using Trump, once he gets elected I bet they will have him killed because he is not actually a conservative.
May have been just a crossover voter since Pa. has closed primaries. Is it relevant what political affiliation the parents are?
 

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May have been just a crossover voter since Pa. has closed primaries. Is it relevant what political affiliation the parents are?
Not unless they were radicals, which doesn't seem to be the case. If the parents knew he had mental issues and were letting him use their guns anyway, then they have major legal problems ahead of them. Meanwhile, the mainstream media pretend the assassination attempt on Trump never happened. Their lack of coverage and in-depth investigation on an event like this is unprecedented.
 
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Not unless they were radicals, which doesn't seem to be the case. If the parents knew he had mental issues and were letting him use their guns anyway, then they have major legal problems ahead of them. Meanwhile, the mainstream media pretend the assassination attempt on Trump never happened. Their lack of coverage and in-depth investigation on an event like this is unprecedented.
He was living at home with the parents so they would likely know what issues he had. The Crumbley case may be a similar situation to this.
Appears to be memory-holing going on with a lot of the media. Big Tech social media like Google manipulated the Trump search. No daily press conferences with up to date information early on either.

 

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I was expecting the release of the audio phone call by now. But does the phone call from the father to the police even exist? Conflicting reports and information.
Fox News reported according to “federal source”.

BBC reported according to “law enforcement source”that father called BEFORE the shooting. Father of Trump gunman called police about son before attack
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But then there is this. They checked for a record of the call and it doesn’t exist.

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