hino's

denny2010

Expert Expediter
hello and good morning to all.....i have a question about hino's why are they so cheap? i have heard that they are not really built to last. is that true? we had one at work it was very comfortable truck to drive but it was used in a different type of driving...just local 100-300 miles a day. thanks
 

golfournut

Veteran Expediter
I love my Hino. You can't beat the factory warranty.260 HP, 9.2 mpg.
2008.170k miles on her. I know some that have 500k. Don't know of any that have reached a million.
 

zero3nine

Veteran Expediter
Hino is as solid as any Toyota product. Can't recall them being cheap though....

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denny2010

Expert Expediter
not dogging them . just compared to other trucks . 1-200,000 miles 30-45,000 dollars.. others 50-80,000 dollars with 500,000 miles....
 

zero3nine

Veteran Expediter
Ok you are talking about resale value here. Whole different subject.

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golfournut

Veteran Expediter
One of the problems in the past, was adding a sleeper. The cab has rubber bushings instead of air. When they attach the sleeper, the sleeper had air so there was a flex issue. That is easily resolved by adding air to the cab.

The new warranty is 500k 5 years, bumper to bumper. Everything is covered. No one else offers that with out buying a warranty, and at that those have limitations.
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Toyota yup 500,000 mile warrenty cool
but after 500,000 virtualy no resale or trade value.
Engines got underpower problems
Cooling problems
and regenerate for the new polutions crap.

The same goes for the Nission Trucks as well.
you get what u pay for.

Its the same with Real Trucks
Id take a W800 or W900 over a T600 as a T600 a throw away truck.

But then agaiin Engines Hmm Id take a 470 Detroit 60 over there new 515 EGR series any day.
The FLD I was LD on had over 1 million two hundred twenty five thousand miles on it and never had a new clutch or overhead done on the truck the whole time i was on it. I got on it when it just turned 450,000 miles. Got ta Love that 470 Detroit. The Bull.

Just like Id rather have a 10speed or 13 vice a automatic trany.

You get what you pay for.
 

golfournut

Veteran Expediter
Toyota yup 500,000 mile warrenty cool
but after 500,000 virtualy no resale or trade value.
Engines got underpower problems
Cooling problems
and regenerate for the new polutions crap.

The same goes for the Nission Trucks as well.
you get what u pay for.

Its the same with Real Trucks
Id take a W800 or W900 over a T600 as a T600 a throw away truck.

But then agaiin Engines Hmm Id take a 470 Detroit 60 over there new 515 EGR series any day.
The FLD I was LD on had over 1 million two hundred twenty five thousand miles on it and never had a new clutch or overhead done on the truck the whole time i was on it. I got on it when it just turned 450,000 miles. Got ta Love that 470 Detroit. The Bull.

Just like Id rather have a 10speed or 13 vice a automatic trany.

You get what you pay for.

I haven't had any if those problems. Then again I flush the cooling every year and replace all the hoses as part of my yearly maintenance.

I know a few drivers that have M2s & 112s that spend thousands a year keeping them on the road on top of the wear and tear stuff, stuff that is covered under the Hino warranty. $135k truck with 500k miles might be worth 7 to 12k probably gonna need a couple grand to make it right. 260 HP, I hadn't had to get out and push. 9.2 mpg driving 64 mph to 10mpg in the SE flat ground. I spend more on the APU to keep it running than I do on the truck.

Your right tho, can't beat those Detroit, especially those old series 60. Just go and go.
 

golfournut

Veteran Expediter
They are coming out with a 300hp. A problem I noticed with the 2011s is they mounted the fuse box that has been under the drivers door to between the frame rails. A sleeper or box would limit access to having to crawl under the truck to replace a fuse. Boo. The fuel filter was moved to under the hood.
 

golfournut

Veteran Expediter
I have followed Dakotas posts, not making excuses, but that's one truck. I'm very sure the same scenario could be found for Freightliner, KW, International, Mack etc...

I was at Penn Detroit Diesel in 2009 getting some work done (again) on my APU. I met a driver there that has been on the road for 40 years. He claimed every 3 years for the last 15 he bought a new truck and paid cash. This one he had was a White with a Detroit engine. The truck was 5 or 6 months old, he was in there for his 3rd turbo plus original. No one could seem to figure out why he was going thru turbos. Detroit engineers just kept throwing parts at it. They had just replaced the turbo and had it on a Dynamo and hooked up to the ECM to pull codes. According to him, this was what they did on the other 2 turbos. So 4 turbos in 5 or 6 months on a Detroit motor doesn't make all Detroit motors bad. I drove T600 back in the 90s, couldn't keep front wheel bearings from going out in that thing. Out of a fleet of about 600 trucks, mine was the only problem child with that particular problem. Finally after about 7 months moved to a different truck, no problems of any kind.

In reality, all manufactures of trucks have problems. Some more than others.

As far as resale, by the time I depreciate it out and what I save on repairs because of warranty coverage repairs (and I have had some, see my posts) and what I will be able to sell it for will come out to be a wash at this point in time barring anything major breaking when it goes out of warranty. With the new warranty tho, I think resale values will start to be somewhat competitive because the warranty is transferable at no charge. So you run the truck for 2 to 3 years put say 200 k miles on it, you still got 300 k miles of factory warranty left. No other brand does that without buying a warranty, and at best its only a slight rip off!

Frankly I don't think its a matter of being "so cheap" as it is of others being over rated. Why such a big difference in price of a FL say from Fyda vs Ellenbaum?
 

zero3nine

Veteran Expediter
I've had plenty of drivers over the years who swore by the reliability of their Hino trucks. Quite a few Fuso lovers out there too. Me, I will swear by my F650's and F750's, with Cat motors and Eaton Fullers of course.

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