High cost of heating got ya down
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All right guys,,I'm trying to unload some trees here,,I talking trees that are making my life miserable and your talking ducks.
Duck are FUN to talk about. Geez, you know that!!
How are trees making your lif miserable?
LOL!! I had a german short hair pointer several years ago who would have cleaned up all those sticks for you!! He LOVED sticks!! He hated ground hogs. Killed everyone he saw.
RLENT
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Since you mentioned hardwoods, you might want to consider posting something over on arborists site.
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There are individuals who own their own portable bandsaw mills, who are not necessarily big-time commercial, that are into woodworking as a hobby/craft/small side business - while any single individual might not be total solution as far as your particular site goes (not knowing what ya got), you might find someone who would be willing to come in and cull the more worthwhile (larger) trees - particularly considering the species of wood you mentioned.
A typical arrangement is 50/50 split - where miller takes half of the wood, leaving you with the rest (of the cut and milled wood) If you have a use for some nice hardwood boards or paneling, might be something to consider. Just a thought.
Slo-Ride
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Thanks RLENT,I bookmarked it and will look into signing up there and try to post something..Anything will help.
My immediate intent is to get my living area opened up and get some daylight in there and stop all the clean up or slow it down.Ive been beating it back for over 20 years and can no longer keep up with it
Some hard wood beams maybe of use,,thanks again nice idea..
Long term goal is to move into the woods where I have started a pond with a small front end loaded and stopped when I kept getting buried in the muck
untill I can get some larger equipt. and work my way toward the river where I have plans for a rice field. Its all a wet dream but I gotta start with these dang trees,,they gotta go
RLENT
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Given the species you mentioned, I'd think you would get some interest.
Every little bit always does
Know the feeling ... I got big plans here
.... unfortunately, I'm finding as I get older, my body seems less willing to keep up with what my mind envisions .... Glad to be of service - hope it will be of benefit.
Rice .... cool .... for human consumption ?
..... or sort of a "wet" food plot for wildlife ?
Yeah ..... getting all the excavation without winding up with a mud hole can be a bit of a trick. I want to put a 1 acre or so pond in myself ... but that's at least 2 years out at this point.
If you haven't already, you might wanna check out the forums over on Pond Boss - a good site for all things pond:
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I know the feeling - over the last few weeks I took down around 40 or 50 trees around our barn ... for a fire break and to keep anything from falling on it. Pushed most them over with the frontend loader (saves having to dig out the stumps with the backhoe
)I've managed to get the stumps from the ones I couldn't push over all grubbed out .... now I need the weather to cooperate for the rest of the week so I can install the french drains (the building pad was cut into a bank) and finish the grading and get some grass seed sown before the weather gets bad.
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RLENT
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Yeah .... fortunately I was able to just push over almost all of the trees with the FEL .... then just cut off the rootball with the chainsaw and use the pallet forks to haul 'em off ..... just a couple of big poplars that I really had to dig out with the 'hoe (below) ....
Wish I would have been that savvy when I cleared the pad originally:
I'm cutting down trees and digging out the stumps with the 'hoe - mostly done - and a friend stops by and sez: "What are ya doin' ? .... push them trees over with your loader ...."
Well duh .....
Thanks !
It's coming along - but we got a long way to go.
Yeah .. looks like a great place to use a long-reach trackhoe
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Definitely got some moisture there that's for sure .... the very back of our property is like that ..... it was already somewhat wetter to start with .... and then the township came in redirected some of the drainage off an adjacent road ..... now I got my own wetland ......
Excellent !
Yeah, that there is half the battle .... having a big hole in the ground ain't much good if it drains ....
You're on your way !
I think I see a set of auxilary quick disconnects up there on your frontend loader .... you have a grapple for loader ?
That would be very handy for cleaning up that woods .... front aux hydraulics and a bucket grapple are on my project list for this winter (I shoulda done it 5 years ago ...
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Slo-Ride
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the aux connects are for a front blade attachment..Machine really isnt what I need. its just preety green
It would be nice to have a stick like that 1 ya posted. Really could throw some dirt with that.
For sure the water table is up there with the river on the back of the property.
Oh the rice is for wildlife,,we have alot of birds move thru our area but across the road from me is a audbon soceciety santaury and on back side of river is state prison farmland, hugh tracks of land,,and i cant compete with that.Hoping if I can get the rice to grow it will draw em in..
Well I gotta go,,,have a long ride into the night,,be back in am.
It would be nice to have a stick like that 1 ya posted. Really could throw some dirt with that.
For sure the water table is up there with the river on the back of the property.
Oh the rice is for wildlife,,we have alot of birds move thru our area but across the road from me is a audbon soceciety santaury and on back side of river is state prison farmland, hugh tracks of land,,and i cant compete with that.Hoping if I can get the rice to grow it will draw em in..
Well I gotta go,,,have a long ride into the night,,be back in am.
the aux connects are for a front blade attachment..Machine really isnt what I need. its just preety green
It would be nice to have a stick like that 1 ya posted. Really could throw some dirt with that.
For sure the water table is up there with the river on the back of the property.
Oh the rice is for wildlife,,we have alot of birds move thru our area but across the road from me is a audbon soceciety santaury and on back side of river is state prison farmland, hugh tracks of land,,and i cant compete with that.Hoping if I can get the rice to grow it will draw em in..
Well I gotta go,,,have a long ride into the night,,be back in am.
Is the area you dug your "hole" considered a wetlands? A good friend of mine dug a pond, small, and is now in ALL kinds of trouble with the State. He did NOT have the proper permits etc. There are MANY gung ho State people out there. His is out in Calhoun county. Seems that the State is cracking down on "illegal" ponds. Money it really tight and they are looking for ANY source they can find.
I like the rice idea. MALLARDS love that!!
RLENT
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"Illegal" ponds .... seriously ?
I mean yeah ..... I guess I could see it if it was technically designated as a wetland/marsh/etc ..... or if there was something growing/living/inhabiting the area that was listed as threatened or endangered ....
On the very back of our property (near the now "wet" area) there is a "stream" (seasonal) - the county now has it designated as such, and there is a riparian setback ordinance - you can't do anything within so many feet of it (I think 30' and no buildings within 150' if memory serves ....)
It's a bit of joke - in that the "stream" is actually just stormwater runoff (from the road I mentioned previously) and outflow from my neighbors septic systems .... stream .... yeah, right ....
Here (Ohio) when I called the local Water & Soil Conservation guys about the feasibility of putting in a couple of ponds, they were on it like fleas on a dog .... loved the idea .....
They sent a guy right out within about a week of when I called to put a set of eyes on it. He had reviewed our property and soil types, drainage/watershed that would be the watersource before he got here ...... no permits required (ag and less than a certain size) and they would provide the engineering/plans for the dam/pond for free .....
Of course, neither pond was really going in an area that was particularly wet ..... the second pond we had thought about was going to be in the woods - the guy recommended against that for two reasons: 1. I didn't want to remove enough trees to avoid having the pond become filled with organic matter (leaves), and 2. the area was just past a transition point, with a different soil type .... and there was some question as to whether we'd be able to get the pond to seal using the native soil .... although I would have had plenty from the other pond (which would have been larger) to do it.
Well, that's not at all hard to believe .....
I'd take 'em over the whistlepigs and 'coons we got now, that's for sure ....
I don't mind the groundhogs too much .... I just wish they'd quit excavating under the house ....
Slo-Ride
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Now why did I know you where going to pop my bubble on my pond?
What they dont know wont hurt em..
Actually that hole is 1/2 mile from my river bank,,maybe a hundred yrds from my septic tank so should be ok.
Another reason Im not to worried yet is DNR would like to restore the whole river back to what it was before the Corp of Engrs straightened the river out years ago.But they kinda are having trouble with landowners last time I heard anything bout it.
I understand for less the 5 acres per pond,,DNR wont bother ya anyways.Dont know if thats true but Im runnng it.
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RLENT
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I'm inclined to agree .... when we put up the "barn" we didn't pull any permits since we were doing it under the ag exemption.
Our township had recently incorporated and the guys in zoning/planning actually advised to "get it put up now" ... since as a "city" there would likely be more restrictions once they got done overhauling the zoning code. Given the retards we have for local city officials, that is not at all hard to imagine.
I dunno
... down here in O-hi-O the powers that be seem to think that stormwater runoff from a road and septic outflow constitutes a riparian environment .... not exactly my concept of a pristine stream ...... They'd probably be glad to have you doing what you are.
IIRC, similar here - had to do with both the size of the pond and the height of any dam - tall dams holding back large amounts of water tend to invite interest and eventual input from public officials ..... particularly if there is anyone living downstream. Kinda hard to argue with that logic.
Slo-Ride
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My understanding is no dams no dikes,,by only removing material and not building dikes you keep the water at its natural level (it seeks its own level)..there for any flooding to the neighbors or other area would be natural run off and would have happened anyways.
Agin not sure how true it is, only what I hear and gather from other ppl.
Boy, did we get off subject of trees again.from trees to ducks to ponds to polebarns
Layout,,thinking we need more thread in here..Food plots,,Pond building ,,backyard projects
"Illegal" ponds .... seriously ?
I mean yeah ..... I guess I could see it if it was technically designated as a wetland/marsh/etc ..... or if there was something growing/living/inhabiting the area that was listed as threatened or endangered ....
On the very back of our property (near the now "wet" area) there is a "stream" (seasonal) - the county now has it designated as such, and there is a riparian setback ordinance - you can't do anything within so many feet of it (I think 30' and no buildings within 150' if memory serves ....)
It's a bit of joke - in that the "stream" is actually just stormwater runoff (from the road I mentioned previously) and outflow from my neighbors septic systems .... stream .... yeah, right ....
Here (Ohio) when I called the local Water & Soil Conservation guys about the feasibility of putting in a couple of ponds, they were on it like fleas on a dog .... loved the idea .....
They sent a guy right out within about a week of when I called to put a set of eyes on it. He had reviewed our property and soil types, drainage/watershed that would be the watersource before he got here ...... no permits required (ag and less than a certain size) and they would provide the engineering/plans for the dam/pond for free .....
Of course, neither pond was really going in an area that was particularly wet ..... the second pond we had thought about was going to be in the woods - the guy recommended against that for two reasons: 1. I didn't want to remove enough trees to avoid having the pond become filled with organic matter (leaves), and 2. the area was just past a transition point, with a different soil type .... and there was some question as to whether we'd be able to get the pond to seal using the native soil .... although I would have had plenty from the other pond (which would have been larger) to do it.
Well, that's not at all hard to believe .....
I'd take 'em over the whistlepigs and 'coons we got now, that's for sure ....
I don't mind the groundhogs too much .... I just wish they'd quit excavating under the house ....
My friend would have most likely got the permits needed IF he had gone the right route. I told him about the problems but he did not listen.
His pond is a nice one and ducks are using it already, just 1 year into the project.
He MIGHT luck out, they have not got back to him in 8 months now.
It is a good pond, added to the wet area, just deeper.
Sometimes I can understand it and sometimes it makes no sense. This time it is just plain silly.
Now why did I know you where going to pop my bubble on my pond?
What they dont know wont hurt em..
Actually that hole is 1/2 mile from my river bank,,maybe a hundred yrds from my septic tank so should be ok.
Another reason Im not to worried yet is DNR would like to restore the whole river back to what it was before the Corp of Engrs straightened the river out years ago.But they kinda are having trouble with landowners last time I heard anything bout it.
I understand for less the 5 acres per pond,,DNR wont bother ya anyways.Dont know if thats true but Im runnng it.
LOL!! Sorry, not trying to bust your bubble, they are getting silly out there right now. My friend had no dams etc it is just a water level pond. No springs messed up etc. It is about 4 acres.