Hey, your back door is open...

FireGears

Expert Expediter
Fellow Gear Grinders...

For years, I've driven trucks with barn doors on the box.
My current rig has a rollup door.
With the nice weather it's working correctly but
will ol' man winter put the kibosh on it...??? :eek:

Also...
I saw a rig with rear barn doors but
rollup doors on the storage cabinets.

How about you..??
Do you prefer barn doors or a rollup...???


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LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I like a roll up door because you can keep it locked until you decide to let someone into the box. I've only had twice where they've charged in before I could get the dolly legs all the way down but I don't like that. Another advantage is not being out in the weather to open/close the doors and keeping more of the bad weather out of the box as well. The only drawback is the space imposition however you can get a door that minimizes that intrusion. If I were building another truck from scratch I'd go with a roll up.

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Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Crazy... thanx for the link. Being that this truck has my first rollup door and liftgate, I'll check them out for service.

Can't really say if I like barn or rollup more. I like the idea of backing in without opening the door. At the same time, barn doors don't give away space for freight.

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RichM

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Charter Member
I always preferred roll up doors because as some have pointed out you can keep them closed until you check out the freight and how they plan to load you.Every so often clean out the tracks and spray some WD 40 on the rollers.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
I wish we had roll up doors for all the reasons stated. We've opened doors, backed into the dock and had a forklift going in and out before we could get the truck turned off. Also, our load securement stuff is in the front of the box, we've had them begin loading before we could get load bars moved or retrieve straps.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Roll-up doors have the advantages cited above, plus, if you are doing a city street delivery like in New York or Philadelphia, opening the door does not require you to step out into traffic, or to move the truck so you can clear a lamp post or street sign on the sidewalk side. It also keeps you from having to stop your truck in the middle of a busy street to open your doors before you back into a tight, indoor loading doc.

If you are doing an inside delivery from a city street, roll-up doors are a breeze to close and lock. That maintains the security of your freight and equipment while you are away from the truck and inside the building.

If you are working or exercising inside your reefer body in a temperature-controlled environment, roll-up doors are easier to manage when you are opening them from the inside to get out. You don't have to worry about the wind taking a swing door away from you and flying out of control.

In heavy winds during outdoor deliveries, a swing door can become dangerous if it slips out of your hands, and hard to work with if it does not.

In reefer trucks, roll-up doors do not seal as well as swing doors, but they seal good enough to protect the load. That pays HUGE dividends at pickups and deliveries. Say the outside temp is 100F and your reefer set point is 40F (or -10F for an extreme example).

With a rollup door, you back up to the dock and keep the door closed until the last moment before you load. That preseves much of the work your reefer did to get the truck down to temp before you arrived.

At a delivery, if they tell you to back up to the dock and wait, you can preseve temp with a roll-up door. With swing doors, you loose everything before you even bump the dock. If there is a delay in unloading you, a freight damage claim and dispute may result.

At loading, if the load is small enough, you can roll the door up, wheel the freight inside, close the door behind you, take your time securing the load while maintaining temp, exit the truck, and quickly close the door behind you again to preserve temp. In that case, a rollup door gives you the luxury of time to secure the freight and not making the reefer work any harder than it has to.

If your carrier or shipper requires you to be at the shipper-mandated set point before you leave the dock, trucks with roll-up doors will be long gone while trucks with swing doors will be still waiting to get back to temp.

About roll-up doors taking up space inside the body that could be otherwise used for freight, that is true. But, frankly, if the freight is that tall (and top-heavy), who really wants it anyway?

Our carrier specifies the door opening size for the trucks in its fleet. As long as you meet that spec, it makes no difference if you have a roll-up door or swing doors. Only on rare occasions would freight larger than the specified door opening be accepted to haul.

The once-in-a-year chance that might happen was not enough to forgo the everyday and certain advantages a roll-up door provides.

Oh yea. How many times a day do truckers nationwide tear the rollup doors off their or other drivers' trucks? That is a frequent event with swing doors. Next time you are at an indoor loading dock, look at the edges of the dock entrance. Almost always, you will see evidence of some driver catching his swing doors on the wall. We once saw an entire swing door laying on the ground just outside such an entrance. (Driver said, OOPS! :'( )

Also, when backing up to a dock, indoor or outdoor, swing doors reduce your visibility. Roll-up doors do not.
 

FireGears

Expert Expediter
Thanks ATeam.!!

I just learned something about
rollup doors on a reefer truck..
(Cool..!!)

What type of rear door did you order on your "C-R"??

Also, did you consided rollup doors on your cabinets??


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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
We have a Whiting door on the truck. See my truck spec link below for door details. I'm not sure what you mean by roll-up doors on our cabinets. Our external tool boxes have hinged doors that open to the outside. Inside the sleeper, the cabinets are similiar to kitchen cabinets. Other than that, we have no cabinets on the truck.
 

FireGears

Expert Expediter
Gee ... thanks ATeam...

Ya could have just said... "roll-up" or "barn"
THEN referred to your spec's for more details..

Roll-up "cabinet doors" ...
Like on a fire truck, beverage delivery truck, etc...

It's a safety feature...
Keeps the door out of traffic...
Does not require the user to walk around an open door..



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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Also, when backing up to a dock, indoor or outdoor, swing doors reduce your visibility. Roll-up doors do not.

Ain't that the truth, and don't forget those tight... really tight docks. A truck with barn doors barely fits into the dock.

Cabinet doors, do you mean Tambour Doors? they actually are good to have.
 

FireGears

Expert Expediter
I agree Greg...

Roll-up doors on interior cabinets
are very advantageous in
limited "living/work space" situations.

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FireGears

Expert Expediter
Helping out our buddy, Phil....

ROLL-UP...:D :D

*******************************
From ATeam truck spec's...

Rear Door ...

Manufacturer: Whiting

Type: Overhead (roll-up) ... YES, ROLL-UP...:D :D

Model: TempGuard... 1 1/2" Insulation
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Well, there it is folks..

ATeam uses a very well insulated ROLL-UP door... ';)


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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Well, since you are putting the focus on our truck door, I should add that roll-up doors with thicker insulation are available. We chose against that because they require a heavier-duty roller track system than we wanted to put in our truck. It's all about trade-offs when you spec a truck.

I have only one major regret with our reefer body and door. Not until after the truck was built did I learn that it would have been possible to build into the walls a door opening system that operates similar to a home garage door opener.

Man! How cool would it be to stand at a loading dock, reach into your pocket, pull out the remote, push the button, and, with your shipper there too, watch as the door opens on its own? On lift gate deliveries, where you open the door from street level, it would be cooler still.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
not to change to subject but i've seen covered wagons that work on a deal like what your talking about phil. i saw a maverick driver get out of his truck where i was loading one time undo a deal on each side of the trailer and pull a lil remote out of his pocket he pressed the button and it went forward. he got loaded and strapped it down and pressed it again and was gone.
 

Jefferson3000

Expert Expediter
Recently, I've even seen some boxes with roll-up doors on the side, a sort of alternative to the curtainside. Roll-ups were anywhere between 12 and sixteen feet wide. Of course I've seen sectional barn doors doing the same thing on the side of the truck.

I personally have a roll-up with tuck-away liftgate.


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davekc

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FG wrote
Hey, your back door is open..."
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I have to wonder if this thread was intended for the soapbox?










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FireGears

Expert Expediter
No dave,

That's just your nasty mind at work... :eek: :eek:

The title came from a frantic CB call
I overheard while at a truckstop.

I found it funny because it did not in any way
identify which truck it might be..
(turned out to be a "major carrier" rig leaving...)

I must admit, as a new T/T driver,
I did get out and check my trailer's doors... :7 :7
(All was OK... the locks and seals were in place..)

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davekc

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Just an observation.
Sometimes you never know of ones intent.









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Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
Keeping it locked while backing into a Dock is the least of my worries.

Barn doors have larger openings, less expensive to service. Thus both those factors keep more $ and another run in my pocket. So whats the other reason for ROLL UPS? Like I have something to worry about getting stolen, since its the customers freight anyway?

Plus rolls ups are just UGLY.....

One advantage I will give rolls ups, is big winds. Now be carefull with those barn doors.
 
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