Congress will have to do a lot of cutting deductions...I am so far below zero I can't see daylight...*LOL*
Heathcare Bill Passed
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Congress will have to do a lot of cutting deductions...I am so far below zero I can't see daylight...*LOL*
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Falligator,
I understand your situation, but you are aware that you will not get coverage for your "pre=exsiting condition" for 4 yrs.....and the taxes will start being collected now....so people and businesses large and small with be paying for this for 4 yrs before any of it kicks in......
I understand your situation, but you are aware that you will not get coverage for your "pre=exsiting condition" for 4 yrs.....and the taxes will start being collected now....so people and businesses large and small with be paying for this for 4 yrs before any of it kicks in......
I think everyone would be in favor of some reform of the insurance industry. I think that could have been accomplished without a government takeover. There are sure to have some lawsuits on the way challenging many parts of it.
Just like most of the other bills past this year, most that voted for it never read it or even have a clue as to what all is in it.
Just like most of the other bills past this year, most that voted for it never read it or even have a clue as to what all is in it.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
i have read 2014 before it kicks in... and ALL pre-existing conditions will get coverage.....mosst will get Medicare...and medicare turns down more claims and admissions then any private insurance carrier......
greg334
Veteran Expediter
The ban on insurance companies from denying benefits because of preexisting conditions start this year as does a few other things. (I wish those who used the auto insurance example find an insurance company that will repair accident damage after you had the accident and were with another insurance company.)
Taxes start the next fiscal year, starting in October. It also includes cap gains taxes for Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare at the present level plus a 4% tax for some program.
The coverage for some will start next year, that means raising the levels for Medicaid to allow access to Medicaid.
Some of the Medicare issues will also be addressed in the next year but that may also mean that it will restrict some procedures.
The other thing that will happen this year is all these seniors will get $250 who are not on Part D.
What I think we will have when Social Security crashes, we will see rationed care which seems to be alright.
Taxes start the next fiscal year, starting in October. It also includes cap gains taxes for Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare at the present level plus a 4% tax for some program.
The coverage for some will start next year, that means raising the levels for Medicaid to allow access to Medicaid.
Some of the Medicare issues will also be addressed in the next year but that may also mean that it will restrict some procedures.
The other thing that will happen this year is all these seniors will get $250 who are not on Part D.
What I think we will have when Social Security crashes, we will see rationed care which seems to be alright.
One of the biggest problems is being born a generation (or more) too late and having to see the trash in this administration and live with it and it's consequences for a long time. Better to have been born two generations ago and not know of this mockery and travesty. It's clear now why hatred exists and is real, it is so deserved by some. One can only hope for many I told you so opportunities in the future since they will definitely exist en masse.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Coverage for Pre-existing conditions starts this yr for CHILDRENS ONLY...all others will wait.....
and as far as SS crashing...they just saved it...where do you think these 3-4 yrs of taxsthat will be collected before ant benefits kick in is going to go....to keep SS solvent......
and as far as SS crashing...they just saved it...where do you think these 3-4 yrs of taxsthat will be collected before ant benefits kick in is going to go....to keep SS solvent......
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Toronto40
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Everyone cried about Medicare when it was instituted as well. Everything turned out okay. I'm sure over the next several years this plan will be tweaked but in the long run I think this was a good thing because the current system is broken. Finally someone had the guts to tackle heathcare. I watched fox new for about 10 minutes yesterday and I realized they weren't educating people about healthcare, they were only trying to scare people. The republicans made this more political than about insuring all Americans. Their plan only covered 3 million more people. What a joke. I believe you will see a shift in Americans opinion of the bill as time goes on. I bet a 3rd of the people reading this email have a pre existing condition that wasn't covered before this bill.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Medicare turned out ok!?!?? LOL......
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Ah, yea right ... you don't know what you are talking about - not to be offensive or rude.
Medicare is a frickn' mess and has been since it was created. Many don't know how it works on the back end, they are clueless at the problems and the bureaucracy that is involved with it and the actual costs involved per patient dollar.
Medicare borrows a lot of the money, it restricts a lot of services and much of what is being driven within Medicare is being driven by special interests (drug companies maybe?)
Sorry dude, they tweaked Social Security and messed it up. Medicare and Medicaid has been tweaked and is a mess. This is the problem with many who just don't get it. The states were in control of health care because they were closer to the needs of the people, the feds are too far removed to solve real problems.
I don't agree, Clinton did too but his problem was hillary. Bush wanted to give us an option to put OUR money into private investments instead of the scam of social security but that was gutsy more so than health care.
Actually the one's who were scaring people have been the dems, telling seniors that they will lose medicare if they don't fix health care - which is no where near the truth.
Their plan was also to allow us, the people, to keep their money and spend it on things we need, like food and housing. Oh right that's not for the commopn good.
I bet there we will be in the crapper because of it. We need jobs, we need the government to be out of business and now with the fed talking about taking over the banks, we have serious issues with this and other issues that could have been solved if we allowed the emotion to be taken out of the eqaution and push the states to do the work to fit their needs.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
So this is now the law of the land, mandated by the Fed government...
A few yrs ago the fed gov mandated "S" chip to cover ALL medical expenses for Children.....they dumped it on the states just as the will with alot of this, adding more to the Medicaid program that the States are mandated to fulfil...well the state of Arizona just told the Fed that they are CANCELING S chip....seems they don't have the tax dollars to pay for it.....
Medical News: Arizona Cancels SCHIP Program for Lack of Funds - in Public Health & Policy, Public Health from MedPage Today
A few yrs ago the fed gov mandated "S" chip to cover ALL medical expenses for Children.....they dumped it on the states just as the will with alot of this, adding more to the Medicaid program that the States are mandated to fulfil...well the state of Arizona just told the Fed that they are CANCELING S chip....seems they don't have the tax dollars to pay for it.....
Medical News: Arizona Cancels SCHIP Program for Lack of Funds - in Public Health & Policy, Public Health from MedPage Today
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bdmj989900
Seasoned Expediter
Ok just one question. Do i live in the United States of America. Or the United States of Obama? Seems to me like he does what he wants and not what the people want. Not like the bail out worked. What makes him think this is going to work.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
You live in a theocracy of Obama.
You do know that the great jobs bill has actually screwed a lot of people. It gives tax credits for those companies are hiring unemployed which has caused some employers dumping new employees who didn't yet start and were part of the underemployment or no longer on the unemployment rolls to hire unemployed workers.
You do know that the great jobs bill has actually screwed a lot of people. It gives tax credits for those companies are hiring unemployed which has caused some employers dumping new employees who didn't yet start and were part of the underemployment or no longer on the unemployment rolls to hire unemployed workers.
My father practiced medicine for 50 years. He has been consulted by internationally known physicians at times. He knows the practice of medicine and the problems of same. He commented a few days ago that he wished he was still practicing so he could quit the day they passed this mess if they did pass it. This debacle isn't a good solution. It has good talking points for those who can't figure out it's fiscally impossible. It looks good for those who are quick to want. It's a travesty and a capital crime (yes, that meaning too) as much as any other.
While insurance companies will now be required to not cancel policies and to cover pre-existing conditions, the bill also lifts the restrictions on the insurance companies raising their premiums. The insurance companies will benefit most from this bill.
Well, except for the pharmaceutical companies, who will now suddenly have a 12 year monopoly on their brand name prescription drugs whereby generics cannot be introduced.
Nifty.
Well, except for the pharmaceutical companies, who will now suddenly have a 12 year monopoly on their brand name prescription drugs whereby generics cannot be introduced.
Nifty.
Imagine that? But it will be still free for the crowd that can't afford it because their wages (if any) got sucked up from 200 dollar Nike shoes & hats, gold chains and teeth, multiple tatoos, sigs and booze, and 5K car stereos and rims.
I did read something that their profit from premuims can't exceed 15 percent of their revenue. Not sure if that stayed or got pulled?
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All paid for with their Food Stamp Debit Card
That's the biggie. It got pulled last minute. No restrictions whatsoever.
