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AMonger

Veteran Expediter
So given this quote, one can conclude Gandhi was anti Christian and a Christianphob,right?

Gandhi was a deluded fool. He worshipped someone other than Christ, so he was a rebel against God. Had he "liked" Christ appropriately, he would have worshipped Him.

Man is in rebellion against God. Christ comes laying down the terms of surrender. You, Gandhi, Buddha, Mohammed, Cheri, asjssl, OVM, and everybody else do with that what you will.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Gandhi was a deluded fool. He worshipped someone other than Christ, so he was a rebel against God. Had he "liked" Christ appropriately, he would have worshipped Him.

Man is in rebellion against God. Christ comes laying down the terms of surrender. You, Gandhi, Buddha, Mohammed, Cheri, asjssl, OVM, and everybody else do with that what you will.

No, I am Not against God....I chose to approach HIM.....MY way....Not your way...not any churches way....MY way.....He is my God....He will do with me as He pleases....IF I am wrong HE will let me know....because only His judgement matters.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
No, I am Not against God....I chose to approach HIM.....MY way....Not your way...not any churches way....MY way.....He is my God....He will do with me as He pleases....IF I am wrong HE will let me know....because only His judgement matters.

Well, my message didn't say you were against God; it said you respond to Christ's message in your own way, like everybody else, including Gandhi. You either surrender to God by worshipping Christ, or you reject Him, like everybody else who has ever lived.

But since we're on the subject, You don't get to approach God your way. He is quite literally unapproachable without Christ, Who said, "No man comes to the Father but by Me.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Well, my message didn't say you were against God; it said you respond to Christ's message in your own way, like everybody else, including Gandhi. You either surrender to God by worshipping Christ, or you reject Him, like everybody else who has ever lived.

But since we're on the subject, You don't get to approach God your way. He is quite literally unapproachable without Christ, Who said, "No man comes to the Father but by Me.

are correct...I should have added that sentence...
 

davekc

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As bad as that was, he was better off with non-functioning testes than burning in the lake of fire. He should have been given proper spiritual counsel and help with overcoming his perversion.

Ok...sooo.....should a hermaphrodite walk around with a fire extinguisher?
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Ok...sooo.....should a hermaphrodite walk around with a fire extinguisher?

I don't know what a true hermaphrodite should do, sexually speaking. Find another hermaphrodite? Maybe tests could determine if he or she is truly a man or a woman at the cellular level.
 

davekc

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I don't know what a true hermaphrodite should do, sexually speaking. Find another hermaphrodite? Maybe tests could determine if he or she is truly a man or a woman at the cellular level.

Umm....but you know for anyone else? As for whether one is a man or woman "at the cellular level", that is where you might have a problem. It is the specific issue that blows a hole in the majority of your arguments. That is the very reason that many religions won't touch that subject.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Umm....but you know for anyone else? As for whether one is a man or woman "at the cellular level", that is where you might have a problem. It is the specific issue that blows a hole in the majority of your arguments. That is the very reason that many religions won't touch that subject.

No, it doesn't blow a hole in it. I just don't know the answer. Back in the first century, we had apostles who could make such decisions. In the absence of someone to do so or without devoting time to figure it out, my best advice to you if you're a hermaphrodite is to remain celebate.
 

davekc

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No, it doesn't blow a hole in it. I just don't know the answer. Back in the first century, we had apostles who could make such decisions. In the absence of someone to do so or without devoting time to figure it out, my best advice to you if you're a hermaphrodite is to remain celebate.

And that advice would be wrong and not based on anything other than your opinion which you are entitled to have. That is much different than whether it is right or not.
Since you acknowledge that "maybe determination can be found at the cellular level", would that not also apply to a individuals orientation? It has been proven that there is a genetic difference between gays and straights. Should that be used for determination of anything?
 

letzrockexpress

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No, it doesn't blow a hole in it. I just don't know the answer. Back in the first century, we had apostles who could make such decisions. In the absence of someone to do so or without devoting time to figure it out, my best advice to you if you're a hermaphrodite is to remain celebate.

Sounds like a directive to me. I will ask you again. How do you reconcile your insistence on pushing your religion on us with your rigid Libertarian stand?
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Exactly, so for all your hatred and garbage you spread those :censoredsign:s you hate so much will be in Heaven.

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Don't know how you're arriving at that conclusion. First, I haven't spread ahh hate and/or garbage. If I hated sodomites, I'd tell them to keep doing what they're doing.
Second, one must repent of one's sins. That means not doing them anymore. That doesn't sound like what you're suggesting.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
And that advice would be wrong and not based on anything other than your opinion which you are entitled to have. That is much different than whether it is right or not.
Since you acknowledge that "maybe determination can be found at the cellular level", would that not also apply to a individuals orientation? It has been proven that there is a genetic difference between gays and straights. Should that be used for determination of anything?
No. A homosexual is one who has sexual relations with someone of their own sex. Whether or not they prefer it, and for what reason, is of no consequence.

Our sexuality isn't happenstance. God designed it as He did for a reason. Redemption is demonstrated in it. Look up the teachings on the kinsman-redeemer, for example. That's one reason why premarital and extramarital sex are also forbidden. Eternal truths are played out in human sexuality, and to alter human sexuality is to tell lies about God & redemption.

The Church is likened to a woman, metaphorically, and is the bride of Christ. So God tells us of marriage, He tells us that a woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, etc. These things play out, metaphorically. So God has rules, and they've not up for debate or a vote.
 
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AMonger

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Sounds like a directive to me. I will ask you again. How do you reconcile your insistence on pushing your religion on us with your rigid Libertarian stand?

There are sins one could commit for which God specified no sanction. Household gods, for example, though wrong, could be kept without penalty (on this side of the grave) if they were kept to one's self. It was only when one made them public that God directed His people to put an end to them.

Kinda like what I've said about homosexuality; if sodomites kept their private lives private, it wouldn't be an issue.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
If what you spew is not hate, than what is it?:confused:

Again, hatred for them would be not warning them to repent. Jonah didn't particularly like the Ninevites, but he went to warn them anyway that God was about to destroy them unless they repented (actually, he didn't want to but God gave him a ride). Had they not repented, God would have judged them.

Now that would be hate.
 

runrunner

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“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)
 
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