Have a bucket handy

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
h/t to Moonbattery.com:
Liberals have been pushing hard (see here and here) to get as many homosexuals as possible signed up for ObamaCare to facilitate forcing taxpayers to pick up the tab for the extraordinary medical expenses they run up by spreading ghastly venereal diseases. The campaign has produced a simple challenge that will determine whether you have the stomach to live in a world run by liberals. Can you sit through this video? Don’t try it without a bucket at hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azoWedQH8zQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Really slanted there .....

1 in 2 sexually active young people will get an STD by the age of 25.
The good news, most STDs are curable, and all are treatable.

The Most Common STDs | It's Your Sex Life

This study compared prevalence rates of most common sexually transmitted diseases (STD) in heterosexual and homosexual men who made respectively 12,201 and 5324 visits to an STD clinic over 18 months. Overall, homosexual men were significantly (p < 0.001) more likely than heterosexual men to have gonorrhea (30.31% vs. 19.83%), early syphilis (1.08% vs. 0.34%) and anal warts (2.90% vs. 0.26%) but less likely to have nongonococcal urethritis (NGU) (14.63% vs. 36.40%, p < 0.001), herpes genitalis (0.93% vs. 3.65%, p < 0.001), pediculosis pubis (4.30% vs. 5.35%, p < 0.005), scabies (0.42% vs. 0.76%, p < 0.02), and genital warts (1.68% vs. 6.69%, p < 0.001). In most cases the differences in rates remained significant (p < 0.05) when corrected for age and race. It is speculated that higher rates of gonorrhea and syphilis result from a larger mean number of sexual contacts, more potential sites of infection, and more hidden and asymptomatic disease, while the lower rates of the other STD result from a lesser susceptibility of anal mucosa to the causative agent(s) of NGU, herpes genitalis, and venereal warts or from a lack of pubic apposition (pediculosis pubis).

Comparative prevalence rates of sexually tran... [Am J Epidemiol. 1980] - PubMed - NCBI



Would seem the list is somewhat longer for Straight sex.....hmmmm
 
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AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Excerpts from Dr. Gary North's column on the Robertson issue, which can be found here: http://www.garynorth.com/public/11911print.cfm

What A&E has done was best described by astronaut Gus Grissom half a century ago, as recorded for posterity in The Right Stuff. It has committed a deviant act: symbolic bestiality. A&E has screwed the pooch.

A&E has just lost a franchise that generates almost half a billion dollars a year in product sales.

Can you spell "dumb"? The only hope is that buyers do not figure out that they are making money for A&E.

...

We see here a failure to honor a familiar principle: count the cost. Choose your tactics accordingly. Do not overplay your hand.
...

From day one, the people at A&E violated this tactical rule.

"LET'S SHOW PHIL WHO'S BOSS!"

Phil Robertson is a curmudgeon's curmudgeon. He is almost perfect. As the folks in Hollywood are said to say, it is as if he was sent by central casting.

If you have seen him on Duck Dynasty, you know that he is articulate. He has a peculiar way of speaking, which I noticed almost from the beginning. But his eloquence is unique. It is a strange eloquence. He grabs your attention, not simply because of what he says, but because of the way that he says it. It is no-frills speech. He does not waste a word. And he chooses his words carefully.

There is no question that A&E had no idea that this program would become the dominant cable show in history. There is no way that anybody could have predicted that. Robertson himself did not think it would work. But it did.

...

Robertson lives in a very simple home, located far out in the sticks. He is not motivated by money. His son Willie is already worth $20 million, and Duck Commander, which sells duck calls that Robertson invented, is a $40 million a year business.

In one of the early shows, Robertson says on-screen that he told his son he could do anything he wanted with the business, as long as he got his monthly check. I suspect he is getting a very large monthly check.

Robertson has no debt. He has a lot of money coming in. He never wanted to do the TV show in the first place. He is therefore beyond any negative sanctions that might be imposed by the producers at A&E. The producers at A&E are not used to people being in this situation.
...

From the moment that story hit, Robertson's statements to GQ became a sensation. By suspending him, A&E created a firestorm of resistance.

Millions of Christians saw that someone had said in public what they have always believed, but have not talked about publicly in the last 40 years. Then he was placed under negative sanctions in full public view. The response was immediate.
...

My wife woke up very early Thursday morning. She got up, logged into Facebook, and found a page called "Stand with Phil Robertson." The people clicking "like" agreed to boycott A&E until Robertson is restored to the show. The site had only been up for a few hours. It already had 79,000 "likes." By the next morning, there were 250,000. By Thursday night, there were over 1 million. By Friday morning, there were 1,250,000.
...

A&E has left the re-runs on. It plans to run the next season's shows -- with Phil! This is a half-hearted response to GLAAD, and now they are going to eat an enormous helping of crawfish by restoring Robertson to the show, or else they're going to see the show end. That will hit them where it matters most in Hollywood: the wallet.

Robertson's hostile opinion regarding the practices of homosexuals is shared by the vast majority of Americans. He called this a sin. I don't think most Americans believe this any longer, but American men fully accept his preference for women. This is why GLAAD has a problem. They responded by putting pressure on A&E. They did not resist lighting the fuse.

Within 24 hours, the powder keg blew up. It is now clear to the people at GLAAD that they are facing pent-up opposition, which had not gone public for 40 years. In one 24-hour period, the curtain lifted, and behind the curtain are millions of people who are mad as hell, and are not going to take it any longer.

Legal tolerance is not the same as social acceptance. You can get toleration as a favor: "no harm, no foul." "Live and let live." But you can't get social acceptance as a favor. That has to be earned. You can demand it, but you cannot get it. When you are in a small minority, you would be wise strategically to use the courts to gain legal tolerance. But when you take the step of imposing economic sanctions on those who do not share your views socially, you make a tactical error. This is what GLAAD has done. It was a huge blunder. It has backfired.

...

Millions of Christians have come out of their prayer closets and onto Facebook protest pages.

When they click "like," they are implicitly clicking "don't like." They are clicking "fed up."

The reason why they did this, is clear: their enemies, who really are their enemies, decided to make an example of someone whose ideas these people are committed to, but committed to in silence. A&E unleashed a firestorm of resentment, which has been festering for 40 years.

...
Robertson did not call for any legal discrimination against homosexuals. He simply described, in graphic terms, what the vast majority of humanity believes today, and which it has always believed. When A&E attempted to impose negative sanctions on him, A&E was imposing symbolic negative sanctions on everybody who agreed with him. Finally, a large chunk of the silent majority made it clear that they have had enough. Too much, in fact.

...
I would be very surprised if A&E buckles. I would be even more surprised if the Robertson family buckles. The network is going to lose the show. The network deserves to lose the show.

Phil Robertson is now a hero to millions of straights. He is a villain in the eyes of GLAAD. There is no way to reconcile this conflict of opinions.

From a cultural standpoint, GLAAD has overplayed its hand. It has enabled millions of people to recognize that they are not alone. This is always the worst nightmare of any minority group which has adopted a policy of activism, suppression, and retaliation. When you seek to impose negative sanctions on a public figure, you had better be prepared for massive public resistance.

For decades, the Christian community has been under assault by its enemies. Christians tend to keep quiet. They assume such hostility is normal, and they live with it. Most minority groups accept this. Jews do not accept it, which is why there is the Anti-Defamation League. Homosexuals do not accept it, which is why there is GLAAD. But a minority group that uses public negative sanctions to get its way is risking massive public resistance by the targeted majority.

...

If A&E had said something like this, the blow-up would not have happened.

The A&E network does not agree with Phil Robertson's statements regarding homosexuality. But A&E is committed to free expression as a matter of principle. It is the opinion of A&E that Mr. Robertson's statements are unacceptable, and should be rejected by every American. But A&E does not intend to make an example of Mr. Robertson by imposing negative sanctions of any kind. A&E will continue to broadcast Duck Dynasty, which is the most popular cable television show in history.

That would have gotten GLAAD off their backs. They would have gotten the advertisers' money into A&E's bank account. But A&E also overplayed its hand. That is always the risk of a minority group that seems to have been successful in silencing the opposition. Without warning, the opposition gets very noisy.

...
A&E is holding two pair: aces and eights. The Robertsons have a straight flush: king high.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
There is no such thing as "gay sex".
Gay people have sex the same way straights do.
We straights do everything that gays do, and since there's more of us, we do more of it.
UNPROTECTED irresponsible sex does lead to the spread of disese, no matter who's doing it.......
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
No, they don't. Normal people engage in normal sex, which is to say, between persons of opposite sex. Sodomites practice sexual perversion. The very same sex act among normal people, however unusual, is different from a homosexual sex act, which is always perverse.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
A&E is a private source and can make whatever decision they want in regards to their programming content.....and or their sponsors....

Robertson can believe what he choses....Since Duck Dynasty was not cancelled and he is a principle shareholder in the company....he is still getting paid indirectly....it is all grandstanding for ratings as he still rakes in the cash....
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
No, they don't. Normal people engage in normal sex, which is to say, between persons of opposite sex. Sodomites practice sexual perversion. The very same sex act among normal people, however unusual, is different from a homosexual sex act, which is always perverse.

Normal sex?.....missionary or on top?......anal or oral?.... gay or straight it is all the same...except it is between the same sex or opposite....but the results are the same.....
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
That's one thing that makes it perverse. Otherwise normal people can choose to engage in perverse sex, and many do. There is, however, no such thing as a normal homosexual sex act. That's a contradiction in terms.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
A&E is a private source and can make whatever decision they want in regards to their programming content.....and or their sponsors....

They certainly can, but that doesn't mean they're smart decisions. They can and did put ideology over both profit and morality. Like stepping off a cliff, you can do it, but the results won't be pretty.

Robertson can believe what he choses....Since Duck Dynasty was not cancelled and he is a principle shareholder in the company....he is still getting paid indirectly....it is all grandstanding for ratings as he still rakes in the cash....
As the column points out, this is an ideological impasse. There are likely unaired episodes in the can, and reruns to air, but the Robertson's will not buckle. They're multi-millionaires and won't need another penny. As the column points out, the producers aren't accustomed to dealing with people in this situation.

A&E, otoh, has stockholders who look at ratings. They may or may not bend. Probably not, since they've already demonstrated they value ideology over either business decisions or virtue. So all parties involved are just playing out the string here, and then it can be said that A&E let the sodomites goad them into killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Foolish, and entirely avoidable.
 
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letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
Excerpts from Dr. Gary North's column on the Robertson issue, which can be found here: Phil Robertson, A&E, and GLAAD

What A&E has done was best described by astronaut Gus Grissom half a century ago, as recorded for posterity in The Right Stuff. It has committed a deviant act: symbolic bestiality. A&E has screwed the pooch.

A&E has just lost a franchise that generates almost half a billion dollars a year in product sales.

Can you spell "dumb"? The only hope is that buyers do not figure out that they are making money for A&E.

...

We see here a failure to honor a familiar principle: count the cost. Choose your tactics accordingly. Do not overplay your hand.
...

From day one, the people at A&E violated this tactical rule.

"LET'S SHOW PHIL WHO'S BOSS!"

Phil Robertson is a curmudgeon's curmudgeon. He is almost perfect. As the folks in Hollywood are said to say, it is as if he was sent by central casting.

If you have seen him on Duck Dynasty, you know that he is articulate. He has a peculiar way of speaking, which I noticed almost from the beginning. But his eloquence is unique. It is a strange eloquence. He grabs your attention, not simply because of what he says, but because of the way that he says it. It is no-frills speech. He does not waste a word. And he chooses his words carefully.

There is no question that A&E had no idea that this program would become the dominant cable show in history. There is no way that anybody could have predicted that. Robertson himself did not think it would work. But it did.

...

Robertson lives in a very simple home, located far out in the sticks. He is not motivated by money. His son Willie is already worth $20 million, and Duck Commander, which sells duck calls that Robertson invented, is a $40 million a year business.

In one of the early shows, Robertson says on-screen that he told his son he could do anything he wanted with the business, as long as he got his monthly check. I suspect he is getting a very large monthly check.

Robertson has no debt. He has a lot of money coming in. He never wanted to do the TV show in the first place. He is therefore beyond any negative sanctions that might be imposed by the producers at A&E. The producers at A&E are not used to people being in this situation.
...

From the moment that story hit, Robertson's statements to GQ became a sensation. By suspending him, A&E created a firestorm of resistance.

Millions of Christians saw that someone had said in public what they have always believed, but have not talked about publicly in the last 40 years. Then he was placed under negative sanctions in full public view. The response was immediate.
...

My wife woke up very early Thursday morning. She got up, logged into Facebook, and found a page called "Stand with Phil Robertson." The people clicking "like" agreed to boycott A&E until Robertson is restored to the show. The site had only been up for a few hours. It already had 79,000 "likes." By the next morning, there were 250,000. By Thursday night, there were over 1 million. By Friday morning, there were 1,250,000.
...

A&E has left the re-runs on. It plans to run the next season's shows -- with Phil! This is a half-hearted response to GLAAD, and now they are going to eat an enormous helping of crawfish by restoring Robertson to the show, or else they're going to see the show end. That will hit them where it matters most in Hollywood: the wallet.

Robertson's hostile opinion regarding the practices of homosexuals is shared by the vast majority of Americans. He called this a sin. I don't think most Americans believe this any longer, but American men fully accept his preference for women. This is why GLAAD has a problem. They responded by putting pressure on A&E. They did not resist lighting the fuse.

Within 24 hours, the powder keg blew up. It is now clear to the people at GLAAD that they are facing pent-up opposition, which had not gone public for 40 years. In one 24-hour period, the curtain lifted, and behind the curtain are millions of people who are mad as hell, and are not going to take it any longer.

Legal tolerance is not the same as social acceptance. You can get toleration as a favor: "no harm, no foul." "Live and let live." But you can't get social acceptance as a favor. That has to be earned. You can demand it, but you cannot get it. When you are in a small minority, you would be wise strategically to use the courts to gain legal tolerance. But when you take the step of imposing economic sanctions on those who do not share your views socially, you make a tactical error. This is what GLAAD has done. It was a huge blunder. It has backfired.

...

Millions of Christians have come out of their prayer closets and onto Facebook protest pages.

When they click "like," they are implicitly clicking "don't like." They are clicking "fed up."

The reason why they did this, is clear: their enemies, who really are their enemies, decided to make an example of someone whose ideas these people are committed to, but committed to in silence. A&E unleashed a firestorm of resentment, which has been festering for 40 years.

...
Robertson did not call for any legal discrimination against homosexuals. He simply described, in graphic terms, what the vast majority of humanity believes today, and which it has always believed. When A&E attempted to impose negative sanctions on him, A&E was imposing symbolic negative sanctions on everybody who agreed with him. Finally, a large chunk of the silent majority made it clear that they have had enough. Too much, in fact.

...
I would be very surprised if A&E buckles. I would be even more surprised if the Robertson family buckles. The network is going to lose the show. The network deserves to lose the show.

Phil Robertson is now a hero to millions of straights. He is a villain in the eyes of GLAAD. There is no way to reconcile this conflict of opinions.

From a cultural standpoint, GLAAD has overplayed its hand. It has enabled millions of people to recognize that they are not alone. This is always the worst nightmare of any minority group which has adopted a policy of activism, suppression, and retaliation. When you seek to impose negative sanctions on a public figure, you had better be prepared for massive public resistance.

For decades, the Christian community has been under assault by its enemies. Christians tend to keep quiet. They assume such hostility is normal, and they live with it. Most minority groups accept this. Jews do not accept it, which is why there is the Anti-Defamation League. Homosexuals do not accept it, which is why there is GLAAD. But a minority group that uses public negative sanctions to get its way is risking massive public resistance by the targeted majority.

...

If A&E had said something like this, the blow-up would not have happened.

The A&E network does not agree with Phil Robertson's statements regarding homosexuality. But A&E is committed to free expression as a matter of principle. It is the opinion of A&E that Mr. Robertson's statements are unacceptable, and should be rejected by every American. But A&E does not intend to make an example of Mr. Robertson by imposing negative sanctions of any kind. A&E will continue to broadcast Duck Dynasty, which is the most popular cable television show in history.

That would have gotten GLAAD off their backs. They would have gotten the advertisers' money into A&E's bank account. But A&E also overplayed its hand. That is always the risk of a minority group that seems to have been successful in silencing the opposition. Without warning, the opposition gets very noisy.

...
A&E is holding two pair: aces and eights. The Robertsons have a straight flush: king high.

None of your points are invalid. It has even been suggested here that as many as 90% of Americans agree with you. What we do not know is what kind of contract the network, production company, etc. had with Mr. Robertson and/or his company. What we "think" or believe in is really not at all the issue.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
I bet you have it playing on a loop.

Not a bad idea. I need to lose some weight before my next DOT physical, and this would be the equivalent of bulimic purging.

But why do you attack with such aspersions? That's quite rude.
 
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AMonger

Veteran Expediter
None of your points are invalid. It has even been suggested here that as many as 90% of Americans agree with you. What we do not know is what kind of contract the network, production company, etc. had with Mr. Robertson and/or his company. What we "think" or believe in is really not at all the issue.

The column said something about a year before the Duck Commander brand can market independently. Don't know if that's solid info or conjecture.
 

scottm4211

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Not a bad idea. I need to lose some weight before my next DOT physical, and this would be the equivalent of bulimic purging.

But why do you attack with such aspersions? That's quite rude.

I had to unlike your post after you threw that last line in there.
Why? Just a hunch...
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
You have a choice to be a bigot...you have a choice to be Christian... you have a choice to be judgemental ..you have a choice to be accepting ...you have a choice to be mean...you have a choice to be kind...you have as much of choice to be gay as you do as picking your own eye color..and if you try to debate that...you must be christian ..

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