Handicapped

[flattop40]

Just food for thought.

I was walking around a J parking lot the other day to get some of this winter weight off and walked by the handicapped spots.

As I approached I noticed one of the trucks was pulling a flatbed. I thought to myself that guy can't be truly handicapped. But as I approched I saw on his window he did have a handicapped sticker.

Now don't get me wrong, I am a lowly cargo van driver, but to me in this industry the hardest working would have to be the guys with the flatbed. The are continuously up and down off that bed. HOW can anyone who is truly handicapped be pulling a flatbed? Am I missing something?

I never did see who drove the truck but I also didn't see anyone with a grave disablilty that would warrent the sticker. Other than one or two grossly over weight individuals.

 

[mjolnir131]

could have been a team that one fell off and is now disabled.

 

[TeamCaffee]

There was a flat bed truck at the Expo last year in a special truck built just for him. He did not have any use of his lower body and had an interesting wheel chair ramp that he used. He would have to have people load and unload the trailer and it sounded as if he was doing ok.

 

[flattop40]

could have been a team that one feel off and is now disabled.

Very true. Never thought of that.

 

[nightcreacher]

maybe he had a better half that went with him and she was handicapped,therefore the sticker

 

[Wingnut]

I have a team in one of my trucks that has a handicapped sticker. Why? The co-driver in this truck had both hips replaced awhile ago and still has trouble with his mobility. Even has a special chair he has to use in the shower because he's not able to stand for long periods. The lead driver definately has no handicap but parks in the handicap space for his codriver.

 

[wellarmed]

I seen a driver parked in handicapped that was able to get out of his truck just fine, stoop and squat under his trailer. maybe a mental handicap? Thought it said handycrap

 

[Dreamer]

There are many types of handicaps, some are not as visible as others. I know many who have been handicapped, and could do work as long as they were standing still, and could even climb up on their truck.

The rules for handicapped placards are not TOTAL disability, but some functional disability that makes it hard for you to walk say, 100 yards without stopping.

Weight doesn't qualify, or many of us would have them..LOL.. however, things such as pinched nerves, sciatica, knee probs, etc.


Dale

 

[Humble2drive]

Just food for thought.

I was walking around a J parking lot the other day to get some of this winter weight off and walked by the handicapped spots.

As I approached I noticed one of the trucks was pulling a flatbed. I thought to myself that guy can't be truly handicapped. But as I approched I saw on his window he did have a handicapped sticker.

Now don't get me wrong, I am a lowly cargo van driver, but to me in this industry the hardest working would have to be the guys with the flatbed. The are continuously up and down off that bed. HOW can anyone who is truly handicapped be pulling a flatbed? Am I missing something?

I never did see who drove the truck but I also didn't see anyone with a grave disablilty that would warrent the sticker. Other than one or two grossly over weight individuals.

1) HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU JUDGE ANOTHER PERSONS HEALTH CONDITION??
2) WHY WOULD YOU EVEN TRY???

I will attempt to explain this because I am sure that people like yourself make the same judgement about me.

I am disabled and you would never be able to tell without giving me a medical exam.

Florida law states:

e. Restriction by cardiac condition to the extent that the
person's functional limitations are classified in severity as
Class III or Class IV according to standards set by the
American Heart Association

AHA states:

PERClass III. Patients with cardiac disease resulting in marked limitation of physical activity. They are comfortable at rest. Less than ordinary activity causes fatigue, palpitation, dyspnea, or anginal pain.
MIT: This is to certify
Class IV. Patients with cardiac disease resulting in inability to carry on any physical activity without discomfort. Symptoms of heart failure or the anginal syndrome may be present even at rest. If any physical activity is undertaken, discomfort is increased

I fall under class III. Perfectly fine to sit and drive a truck; however, climbing out and walking can cause problems. My wife feels much less anxiety if we park close and she does not need to worry. I'm sure that many drivers such as yourself look at me with distain as I appear to be cheating the system.

I suffered through 3 years of dialysis, 16 surgeries, high dose chemotherapy and enough meds to kill a horse.
I have died once, been wheelchair bound and learned to walk again.

I am able to actively participate in the Expediter lifestyle with the help of my wife and it feels good to contribute.

That said.

PLEASE, Don't make judgement on those in the disabled spaces. If they do not have a placard or you have some proof that they may be cheating the system. Ask security to check their paperwork.

 

[fastman_1]

Not all Disabilty's are visable, I was born with birth defects that make me unable to walk more than 25 yards with out servere pain, but to look at me you would never know it

 

[aileron]

1) HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU JUDGE ANOTHER PERSONS HEALTH CONDITION??
2) WHY WOULD YOU EVEN TRY???

I will attempt to explain this because I am sure that people like yourself make the same judgement about me.

I am disabled and you would never be able to tell without giving me a medical exam.

Florida law states:

e. Restriction by cardiac condition to the extent that the
person's functional limitations are classified in severity as
Class III or Class IV according to standards set by the
American Heart Association

AHA states:

PERClass III. Patients with cardiac disease resulting in marked limitation of physical activity. They are comfortable at rest. Less than ordinary activity causes fatigue, palpitation, dyspnea, or anginal pain.
MIT: This is to certify
Class IV. Patients with cardiac disease resulting in inability to carry on any physical activity without discomfort. Symptoms of heart failure or the anginal syndrome may be present even at rest. If any physical activity is undertaken, discomfort is increased

I fall under class III. Perfectly fine to sit and drive a truck; however, climbing out and walking can cause problems. My wife feels much less anxiety if we park close and she does not need to worry. I'm sure that many drivers such as yourself look at me with distain as I appear to be cheating the system.

I suffered through 3 years of dialysis, 16 surgeries, high dose chemotherapy and enough meds to kill a horse.
I have died once, been wheelchair bound and learned to walk again.

I am able to actively participate in the Expediter lifestyle with the help of my wife and it feels good to contribute.

That said.

PLEASE, Don't make judgement on those in the disabled spaces. If they do not have a placard or you have some proof that they may be cheating the system. Ask security to check their paperwork.

Man, I don't think Flattop is judging anybody. He was wondering how a handicapped person is able to jump up and down from the flatbed. He even said that he didn't think about the situation when the handicapped person has a codeiver that does all the jumping. Just chill.

 

[Dakota]

I have a handicapped placard and have had one since my twenties. Because of my handicap I suffer from knee pain. Sometimes I am fine other times it hurts to walk. I hate people judging me for my appearance. Many times I've had elderly people roll down their window, just to say "your not
handicapped." This used to happen much more when I was younger. So I used to say, oh I'm sorry but I have a heart condition. This would shut them up really fast.
If you truly think someone is taking advantage copy down there license #, placard # and call the police department.
don't assume that if you can't see the disability that it isn't there.

 

[Humble2drive]

Man, I don't think Flattop is judging anybody. He was wondering how a handicapped person is able to jump up and down from the flatbed. He even said that he didn't think about the situation when the handicapped person has a codeiver that does all the jumping. Just chill.

Of course he was judging. That's what it is when you look at a situation and draw a conclusion. We all do it. I hope that I was able to explain why his judgment in this case may not have been well thought out. I am glad this was posted to the forum so that others may understand as well.

I am not angry at all with flattop. I think he made an observation and brought it to the forum to hear some different view points. He was simply doing what we all do and I doubt he needs you to come to his defense.

Besides, why would I need to "chill" and not speak up?

 

[Tennesseahawk]

1) HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU JUDGE ANOTHER PERSONS HEALTH CONDITION??
2) WHY WOULD YOU EVEN TRY???

Very simple. There are a good number of ppl who would cheat the system, whether legally, or illegally. I'm also one who is inquisitive as to the reason a big truck has a cripple sticker in the window. I'm sure there are very good reasons for most; but you have to wonder if EVERYONE who has one deserves it, or if some just happen to have a doctor for a brother, and wants an easy parking spot.

 

[DougTravels]

Very simple. There are a good number of ppl who would cheat the system, whether legally, or illegally. I'm also one who is inquisitive as to the reason a big truck has a cripple sticker in the window. I'm sure there are very good reasons for most; but you have to wonder if EVERYONE who has one deserves it, or if some just happen to have a doctor for a brother, and wants an easy parking spot.

"cripple sticker"how nice

 

[Tennesseahawk]

"cripple sticker"how nice

Oh... didn't I mention I failed liberal PC? I figured you would've noticed that from the "I had a dream" post.

Yes... I call my wife "Woman", my kids "Brats", my elderly neighbor "Lady". All understand they are MY terms of endearment, tho some who don't know me would think I'm a barbarian. So what. I tend not to get messed up with the perfection of the day; I just type what I think, or speak what's on my mind.

A cripple is a person or animal with a physical disability, particularly one who is unable to walk because of an injury or illness. The word was recorded as early as 950 AD, and derives from the Proto-Germanic krupilaz[1]. The German and Dutch words Krüppel and kreupel are cognates.
The word generally came to be regarded[who?] as pejorative when used for people, in the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada during the 1960s. In other English-speaking countries, the term is still widely used without pejorative connotations. Cripple is also a transitive verb, meaning "cause a disability or inability".

Call me old fashioned if you want... pre-1960s. My meaning is not meant to be "perjorative". If you take offense at me using the word, please contact the ppl who made it "perjorative". You can find them by the tie-dyed shirts they wear.

Did I mention I used to call my wife "Wench"?

 

[DougTravels]

[edit] NounSingular
cripple
Plural
cripples


cripple (plural cripples)

(usually offensive) a person who has severe impairment in his physical abilities because of deformation, injury, or amputation of parts of the body.
He returned from war a cripple.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Ahh... so you agree.

 

[RLENT]

One of the funny things about communication is that it isn't just merely the words .... but also the intention behind them .... (which sometimes requires a degree of effort on the part of the recipient to get as intended)

I detected no ill-intentions behind what 'Hawk said ..... mebbe not currently in vogue, but no malice there me thinks .....

 

[Turtle]

Holy crip, he's a crapple!

What's wrong with "cripple sticker"? It describes perfectly the handicapped sticker or tag in the window. What if he'd said "blue sticker"? Would that offensive to "people with disabilities" who are depressed and down in the dumps that day? The definition of "cripple" is anything that is impaired or flawed. Is handicapped not impaired or flawed?

The term 'handicapped" is a politically correct term used expressly to victimize others. The word comes from forcing a disadvantage onto someone (or some thing) so as to allow others an equal chance of winning. When someone has a handicap, it is to be thought of as an unfair disadvantage, therefor we should feel sorry for them, even to the point of making things easier for them because of their unfair and unjust handicap.

Crippled is offensive (so they say), because it doesn't imply someone has been unfairly victimized, it merely indicates a state of being, yet handicapped is warm and fuzzy because they're a victim or some unfairness, and therefor we must feel sorry for them and help them. Crippled describes a state of being of a person, implying a part of their body is flawed or impared, whereas handicapped defines who the person is as a whole. Handicapped people all too often want special treatment, 'cause they're a victim for cryin' out loud!, and will sometimes even get mad at those who do not readily perceive their unfair disadvantage, whereas someone who is crippled tends to deal with it and move on with their lives.

The word "cripple" has been used in the same context and the same meaning for centuries. Only the recent invention of politically correct speech has it taken on a new meaning. It's a state of mind, and politically correct speech quashes free speech and original thought, turning someone who is crippled, impaired, flawed, into a handicapped victim requiring special treatment. It sets people apart, rather than bringing them together. It defines who people are, rather than what they are.

Don't get me started on "disabled" and "differently abled" ("differently abled" was invented, BTW, by the DNC during the Reagan administration), or worse, disABLED.

Hey, I'm nearSIGHTED. Billboards should be bigger.