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Can I take a truck that has a GVWR from the factory of 33K and register it for only 26K to keep me from dealing with the IRP mess? I realize it will limit my hauling compacity to the remaining lbs up to 26K but.....
Here in Pa. It is Ok to register a vehicle under the rated GVW.
You just can't go higher than thn that mfg. plate that states the GVWR....or the 2nd stage registration plate that is applied by a body company that mount a body on youy particular vehicle
Thanks,
Frank in Pa.
"The Beast in the East"
You just can't go higher than thn that mfg. plate that states the GVWR....or the 2nd stage registration plate that is applied by a body company that mount a body on youy particular vehicle
Thanks,
Frank in Pa.
"The Beast in the East"
My 98 FL70 is rated for 33,000 lbs. I registered it for 26,000. The Michigan plate indicates the selected registered weight. Been like that for two years and no IFTA or problems with scales.
Just a note: A lot of the fuel desk clerks forget to ask me for my IFTA number and I have to volunteer the information in order for me to PAY my TAXES.
Drive Safe
Just a note: A lot of the fuel desk clerks forget to ask me for my IFTA number and I have to volunteer the information in order for me to PAY my TAXES.
Drive Safe
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This brings me to another question. At 26K what permits do I need to be able to travel the 48? I've got the DOT and MC already.
Oh, off the subject but we are in the process of making our longest run. From Early Branch, SC to Reno, NV. Put both my full time guys in one of the sprinters and their off. Now if I can just get something comming home...even a few pallets of LTL will help with the fuel!
Oh, off the subject but we are in the process of making our longest run. From Early Branch, SC to Reno, NV. Put both my full time guys in one of the sprinters and their off. Now if I can just get something comming home...even a few pallets of LTL will help with the fuel!
Twmaster
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Here in Maryland you can under-register the truck. However, if a driver with a class C license gets stopped at a truck check or scale house here they will hammer him (or her) for being out of their license. The rules here in MD are whichever one of these is highest is what they go with:
1. Registered weight
2. Actual weight
3. Manufacturer's rating
So if you go into the chicken coop with a C license in a truck the manufacturer claims it is capable of 33K pounds they will get a ticket and not be allowed to drive the truck away. Even if the truck is empty.
I wish the states would get their stuff togehter and make a uniform set of rules. Isn't that what the original intent of the CDL was? I am of course not going to hold my breath awaiting that.
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1. Registered weight
2. Actual weight
3. Manufacturer's rating
So if you go into the chicken coop with a C license in a truck the manufacturer claims it is capable of 33K pounds they will get a ticket and not be allowed to drive the truck away. Even if the truck is empty.
I wish the states would get their stuff togehter and make a uniform set of rules. Isn't that what the original intent of the CDL was? I am of course not going to hold my breath awaiting that.
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WOW Twmaster that is great information.I myself have wonderd about this business of under registrating.In fact this whole thread has been very informative."C" trk drivers dont get much respect,and even less information.We all have to learn at the scale house.
I am supprised George (GEO) has not responded to this thread.His Western Star registered as a "C"has got to provide a lot more in info.
I am supprised George (GEO) has not responded to this thread.His Western Star registered as a "C"has got to provide a lot more in info.
Twmaster's comments coincide with my experience in Missouri:
I registered my first Roberts Express cargo van at 18,000 lbs, because at that weight, the State allowed a sales tax exemption for a vehicle leased to an ICC carrier. In those days, a van with a qualcomm antenna on the roof was a rarity and the local scalemaster recognized mine as I flew past his scale house quite often. I met him in a 7-11 one morning and, noticing my 18,000 plates, he inquired why I never visited him at his scale. As an expert trucker with 2 or 3 months experience, I told him it wasn't necessary 'cause it was only a 9500 GVWR van. Nay, Nay, he sez. In MO, any vehicle with a 'Registered' weight over 12,000 not only had to visit the scales, but must have a driver's license for that size vehicle. My class C drivers license and absence of any log books would have entitled me to a nice ticket from him. I pondered the thought of a three violation ticket and within the hour I had the appropriate plates on the van.
I registered my first Roberts Express cargo van at 18,000 lbs, because at that weight, the State allowed a sales tax exemption for a vehicle leased to an ICC carrier. In those days, a van with a qualcomm antenna on the roof was a rarity and the local scalemaster recognized mine as I flew past his scale house quite often. I met him in a 7-11 one morning and, noticing my 18,000 plates, he inquired why I never visited him at his scale. As an expert trucker with 2 or 3 months experience, I told him it wasn't necessary 'cause it was only a 9500 GVWR van. Nay, Nay, he sez. In MO, any vehicle with a 'Registered' weight over 12,000 not only had to visit the scales, but must have a driver's license for that size vehicle. My class C drivers license and absence of any log books would have entitled me to a nice ticket from him. I pondered the thought of a three violation ticket and within the hour I had the appropriate plates on the van.
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Twmaster is correct about the Drivers license. What the CDL law goes by the GVWR of the vehicle per the plate from the factory not the GVW on the vehicle registration.
Again, what permits will I need at 26K. Like KY, NY, ect?
Again, what permits will I need at 26K. Like KY, NY, ect?
CS, I can't answer your question for Ky or NY, but I run the FL60's (25,900 gvw) thru Al, Ar, Az, Ms, Fl, La, Tx, Ok, Ks, NM, Co, Wy. The only extra's I pay are to NM, which collects a mileage tax for miles run from entry to exit, *each* time I go thru the state. Usually less than $10, just annoying. Other states will ask to see the registration & SSR, then ok'd to proceed.