No, it is not ok to steal, give me more credit than that!
According to the article stated 3 or 4 men were able to subdue him. Was it necessary to beat him to death? At some time during the beating, it must have been obvious he was not armed.
Guy Gets caught breaking into trailers, Killed
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According to the article stated 3 or 4 men were able to subdue him. Was it necessary to beat him to death? At some time during the beating, it must have been obvious he was not armed.
Brisco
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Man killed after confrontation with Central Transport employees identified
So far......Cause of Death Undetermined.
I believe the Media has jumped the Gun on this by saying 55 Year Old Charles Lee Bell was "Beaten" to Death.
My Bet........55 Year Old Charles Lee Bell was an Old School Crack ***** looking for stuff to steal to get his next high and came across a group of Guys that did what they had to do to "SUBDUE" him while he was fighting to get away. Probably because of Years of Crack Smoking.........His Health wasn't all that great to begin with.......and like I said earlier.........His Crack Riddled body just gave out.
Either way.........Oh Well..........He was old enough to know right from wrong.......and brought his DEATH upon Himself.......Period.
Good Riddance Charles Lee Bell.............
Man killed after confrontation with Central Transport employees identified
So far......Cause of Death Undetermined.
I believe the Media has jumped the Gun on this by saying 55 Year Old Charles Lee Bell was "Beaten" to Death.
My Bet........55 Year Old Charles Lee Bell was an Old School Crack ***** looking for stuff to steal to get his next high and came across a group of Guys that did what they had to do to "SUBDUE" him while he was fighting to get away. Probably because of Years of Crack Smoking.........His Health wasn't all that great to begin with.......and like I said earlier.........His Crack Riddled body just gave out.
Either way.........Oh Well..........He was old enough to know right from wrong.......and brought his DEATH upon Himself.......Period.
Good Riddance Charles Lee Bell.............
Sorry, I know you know it's not OK to steal.
That "common thief" was taking money out of those men's pockets. He was taking food out of their kids mouths. "Simple theft" of "just things" cost employers a LOT of money every year. Money that could be used to increase wages, improve the company to continue it's success etc. When that does not happen, it hurts us all.
Then there is just the "fed up" factor. People are sick and tired of it all. Tired of thieves. They get caught, slapped on the wrist, and sent back out on the streets to steal again, and again, and again. The so called "justice system" does little to stop it. It is in their best interest to insure it continues, after all, most of them are lawyers. It's how they all make their money.
It has to stop. People are well aware that the government has failed to insure the safety of their property, their lives. As that continues, as crime increases, and the people continue to see little, if anything done to stop it, they WILL stop it themselves. There is no away around that. Either the law starts doing it's job, or it WILL be done for them.
Brisco
Expert Expediter
Sheeeez.........
Why is...........
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w-hore
/hôr/
noun
derogatory
noun: *****; plural noun: *****s
1. a prostitute.
• a promiscuous woman.
verb
verb: *****; 3rd person present: *****s; past tense: *****d; past participle: *****d; gerund or present participle: whoring
1. (of a woman) work as a prostitute.
"she spent her life whoring for dangerous men"
synonyms: work as a prostitute, sell one's body, sell oneself, be on the streets
"she spent her life whoring"
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I mean.....C'mon.........aren't *****s part of a Truckers Every Day Life????
Why is...........
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w-hore
/hôr/
noun
derogatory
noun: *****; plural noun: *****s
1. a prostitute.
• a promiscuous woman.
verb
verb: *****; 3rd person present: *****s; past tense: *****d; past participle: *****d; gerund or present participle: whoring
1. (of a woman) work as a prostitute.
"she spent her life whoring for dangerous men"
synonyms: work as a prostitute, sell one's body, sell oneself, be on the streets
"she spent her life whoring"
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I mean.....C'mon.........aren't *****s part of a Truckers Every Day Life????
Beating a man to death is not the answer.
Yes, the system is broken, but resorting to mob rule does nothing to fix things.
There is nothing in between. Mob rule always takes over when the system breaks. Fix the system or get used to it. People want to feel safe. Right now, they do not. We see daily that those is charge, many of whom themselves are criminals, are going to do NOTHING to stop it. SO, they are really left with very few choices. They can try to fix the system, which won't happen, or they can stop the criminal, which can happen. It is the only power they have left.
I still wonder what you think the answer is, and is that answer realistic? There needs to be a solution, now, I am all ears.
No, not the answer to nearly everything, just certain things.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
LOL! No need to be sorry, it's funny!
If the system is broken, we need to get involved and fix it. Nothing else matters.
You live in Michigan. Just as I do. Do you REALLY believe that the system can be fixed? IF so, in who's lifetime? Not ours. It is my belief that it is beyond repair. By the way it is NOT an "if" the system IS broken, or we would not be having this discussion.
50 years is too long to wait. 5 years is too long to wait,. The people have a right to feel safe, and be safe, NOW! If the government does not step up, NOW, they will.
The corruption runs far too deep to fix. IF you have a REAL TIME solution, beyond the "we need to get involved" one, let me know. I KNOW that I can vote until the cows come home and NOTHING is going to change.
Those men who stopped that crime DID get involved. IF things continue down the path they are, that kind of involvement will become the norm until the need for it is gone.
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Unfortunately the corruption became a global disease, and what's worse, it triumphs everywhere. As a bonus, it controls everything.
Speaking about votes, somebody said a while ago that if our votes would really count, they wouldn't let us vote.
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"The people have a right to feel safe, and be safe, NOW!"
Where exactly is this 'right' enumerated? Who is supposed to provide that safety, and how?
IMO, if absolute safety were promised, few people would accept the conditions necessary to provide that safety. I know I wouldn't.
Of course, street crime [theft, robbery, etc] doesn't really affect my daily life, so I don't spend much time obsessing over it. I take reasonable precautions, and get on with my day. Or night, whatever.
I'm personally more interested in the "white collar crime", because that's an area where ordinary citizens can have some effect - if we pay attention, and get involved.
Why does a "right" have to be enumerated? The right to safety is a HUMAN right that transcends ALL government. If one is not safe, one cannot feel safe. EVERY human on earth has that most basic of all rights. Without safety, one's right to life is in danger. The two greatest threats to those basic human rights are government and crime.
Street crime impacts your life every day in a very real manner. It drives up costs of everyday items. It drives up insurance costs. It destroys tax bases and wipes out cities. Once crime is in control, nothing functions. Detroit is a PRIME example of that.
Street crime impacts your life in other, less tangible ways. Governments "use" the rising crime rates to restrict movement, rights and freedoms.
I don't "obsess" over crime. I take what precautions I see fit, pay attention to my surroundings, and go about my business.
Do I feel "safe" in downtown Detroit? NO FREAKIN WAY! It is a VERY dangerous place, not fit for human or beast. WHY? Unchecked crime, a corrupt police force and a corrupt government. I cannot change that. I avoid MOST of that area, as much as possible. THAT is called being smart.
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Joe - I believe the laws should be changed to the point that a criminal is stripped of any rights or entitlements they may have if caught in the act of committing a crime - especially if that crime is being committed on another citizen's private property.
Think how many wheels would not be stolen from cars parked in a law abiding, taxpayer's driveways if the criminal knew he could be shot or beaten if the property owner catches him.
Yea, that's my law on my property.
Joe - I believe the laws should be changed to the point that a criminal is stripped of any rights or entitlements they may have if caught in the act of committing a crime - especially if that crime is being committed on another citizen's private property.
Think how many wheels would not be stolen from cars parked in a law abiding, taxpayer's driveways if the criminal knew he could be shot or beaten if the property owner catches him.
Yea, that's my law on my property.
Things are FAR too lax for sure.
pearlpro
Expert Expediter
I live not too far from Hall St where this attack Occurred and most of you have been down on Hall St, Its no place to hang out, or idly walk thru, there are serious gangs in that area, I once had my Van stolen from a restaurant on Hall St, and I worked over there when HOME DEPOT had its Distribution warehouse there, Its dark, there are gangs and people all over, Hiding, waiting, looking to steal stuff, and Ill bet this isnt the first time this has happened. Many of these guys just dare you to confront them, and he got what he asked for....Thief, Criminal, Gang member, he wasnt some guy looking for cans for dinner....thats a no mans land really for anyone other then truckers. I wouldnt walk around down there for nothing, you would be robbed at gunpoint in moments....If you deliver or pickup down there, dont sleep down there unless your behind a gate....youll wake up to your tires missing, etc....Hall St is a bad problem are and has been for years...