Guns

louixo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
PEOPLE ASK WHY?

Why I Might Carry a Gun



I don't carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.


I don't carry a gun because I'm evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.


I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.


I don't carry a gun because I'm angry. I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.


I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.


I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy. I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.


I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.


I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.


I don't carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.


Police protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an *** whoopin'.....

(Author unknown - but obviously brilliant)




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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. >From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.


The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade Mainland America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!


The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.
 

Scottrucks

Seasoned Expediter
I agree with that BUT don't even think about bringing
any HANDGUNS to CANADA!!!! Unless it is as documented freight...

As a rule very few people have handguns and fewer still are allowed to carry them around, "some do have the proper permits" but you need to be a very special person to get one...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I agree with that BUT don't even think about bringing
any HANDGUNS to CANADA!!!! Unless it is as documented freight...

As a rule very few people have handguns and fewer still are allowed to carry them around, "some do have the proper permits" but you need to be a very special person to get one...


True, but your laws are putting people out of work in your country, including your hand gun laws. It is your choice, not my country. I would NOT live in a country that RESTRICTS my ability to defend myself to the degree that Canada has. This country is bad enough. I don't like being told that my government deems me as a criminal or too irresponsible to carry if I CHOOSE too. That is MY choice. If I am assumed innocent then there is NO VALID reason to restrict my Right to Carry. Canada, and this country to a slightly lesser degree, assumes guilt, OR, they would NOT restrict your right to self protection. NO local, state or federal government can protect you 100% of the time.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
not entirely true....you can defend your home from invasion in Canada...rifles are completely legal...it is hand gun control...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
not entirely true....you can defend your home from invasion in Canada...rifles are completely legal...it is hand gun control...

And how do you defend your PERSON on the street? I mean, even mace is illegal. Please don't try to tell me that the police are 100% effective. You have total gun registration, even rifles and shotguns, it has cost millions and has not had the wanted effects. It all boils down to the government assuming your guilt, not trusting you.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
you are still full of crap....

oh wait Mr. badguy..let me run to the truck get my gun and them climb in the back and get the keys to open the ammo box and load my gun....*LOL*

If it is already loaded that now makes you a criminal...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Canadian society was never built around the gun...They don't feel threatened...


They will. Crime rates and murder rates are on the rise there. Our society was not "built around the gun" we are just different. Guns have never been the problem. My dad, and many of his friends, used to hunt to school every day. They put the game they had in the spring house to keep it cool, they put their shotguns, hunting knifes and ammo in their lockers. When there was a fight, they used fists, nothing more. They hunting their way home. No gun play. ONLY criminals commit crimes.

By the way. I carry my rifles and shotguns, unloaded and in cases when I travel. I carry my handgun, fully loaded, when I carry. All legal. I am NOT the criminal nor am I the cause of crime.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
They will. Crime rates and murder rates are on the rise there. Our society was not "built around the gun" we are just different. Guns have never been the problem. My dad, and many of his friends, used to hunt to school every day. They put the game they had in the spring house to keep it cool, they put their shotguns, hunting knifes and ammo in their lockers. When there was a fight, they used fists, nothing more. They hunting their way home. No gun play. ONLY criminals commit crimes.

By the way. I carry my rifles and shotguns, unloaded and in cases when I travel. I carry my handgun, fully loaded, when I carry. All legal. I am NOT the criminal nor am I the cause of crime.

I meant if you carried in your truck...I know you don't...but some admittedly do...
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Again you are imposing your way of thinking on another culture...Canadian don't feel threatened as much...no guns has never been an issue....you can walk down Young St at nearly anytime and be ok.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I meant if you carried in your truck...I know you don't...but some admittedly do...

No, I don't carry in my FedEx truck. FedEx, some customers some states and Canada assume I am a criminal so I don't. That just makes it far easier to hijack my load. The criminals are armed. Our criminal government is armed. Only law abiding citizens are in trouble.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
No, I don't carry in my FedEx truck. FedEx, some customers some states and Canada assume I am a criminal so I don't. That just makes it far easier to hijack my load. The criminals are armed. Our criminal government is armed. Only law abiding citizens are in trouble.

trouble? Why? you trust not your government? awfully paranoid there Joe...
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I am really beginning to believe you Americans lead a miserable existence...suspicious of anyone, anything....a lousy way to live...in fear of your own government....tak, tsk, tsk...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I am really beginning to believe you Americans lead a miserable existence...suspicious of anyone, anything....a lousy way to live...in fear of your own government....tak, tsk, tsk...

Just look at the track records of governments around the world. Is there anyone more deserving of suspicion? How many millions, a hundred or so, did governments murder last century? Total power always leads to total corruption. An armed population is just the ultimate check and balance.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Yes and just look at those countries that it has happened in....way different in cultural and societal development...we, the world have learned many a lesson from history...
 

arrbsthw

Expert Expediter
Again you are imposing your way of thinking on another culture...Canadian don't feel threatened as much...no guns has never been an issue....you can walk down Young St at nearly anytime and be ok.

You mean to say that Canada doesn't have drug addicts, robbers or rapists on the streets.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yes and just look at those countries that it has happened in....way different in cultural and societal development...we, the world have learned many a lesson from history...

Like Germany? Russia? China? Japan? All VERY different from the U.S. or Canada and all very different from each other. It happened in all of them. It can, and will, happen again. It can happen in the U.S. and in Canada. Power corrupts. It always has. governments power must ALWAYS be offset.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Let me also include...I was born and raised in Toronto and never not ever was any family member that I can remember back to my grandparents ever robbed, mugged, threatened, or beaten, or raped at any time....I took the subways at night worked the late shift downtown...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Let me also include...I was born and raised in Toronto and never not ever was any family member that I can remember back to my grandparents ever robbed, mugged, threatened, or beaten, or raped at any time....I took the subways at night worked the late shift downtown...


Things change, OVM. My house was robbed in England and here where I live now. Toronto and Montreal are being taken over by gangs these days. Gang graffiti is all over those cities now. Drug dealers and the murder that goes along with it. It used to be that way in Detroit too, not any longer. The Canadian government is not able to deal with it just as ours is not. They don't want too.

Crime is still NOT the norm. MOST people will never be raped, mugged, threatened, beaten etc in their life time. The chances are increasing with every passing year. If and when I carry it just gives me one more chance of surviving something like that IF it ever happens. The more criminals, and governments, know that they MIGHT just not be able to attack anyone they please, the less likely it is to happen.
 
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