Green Eggs and Ham

layoutshooter

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Always have been, always will be. Any wonders the 17th Amendment should be repealed and return to what the Constitution was meant to be? Marxist Medicine is going to be a disaster. ANYONE who voted for this should have to rot in Detroit for what they have done to this country. Freedom is gone. Have to go to government approved DR's for DOT's starting in May. Have to have government approved/controlled insurance. Have to have government approved light bulbs, toilets, schools, cars. This just sucks.

I can't WAIT to find out what my lack of health care options are going to cost me. Some estimates say my premiums will TRIPLE. Barry can go suck a thistle.

The entire idea is just stupid. Let's see if I get it right. Little Petey cannot afford insurance so the solution to that problem is to the raise the prices so Little Johnny cannot afford it either. While using force to obtain this. Got it right?
 
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muttly

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Sorry, but the American people and those in the Senate did not need Mr. Cruz' rendition of "Green Eggs and Ham" on the Senate floor to bring attention to the ACA. It was a colassal waste of time and taxpayers money.

If he really wanted to make a point and to show some integrity, he would've voted: No. But he didn't. And in the end we are no more focused on the ACA then we were before this guy started showing his *ss in front of everyone. All this guy is doing, is stoking his base to fleece more rubes of their hard earned money for his campaign fund.

Seriously, you're worried how much money it cost for him to be on the senate floor? Fiscal conservative are we? What a hoot.

It would appear Mr Cruz got the attention and the focus squarely on ObamaCareless.

From article:
Following the epic, 21-hour speech by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, supporting the defunding of Obamacare, either voters made so many calls to establishment Republicans that their phone lines melted, or those GOP leaders took their phones off the hook.
Read more at Meltdown! GOP bosses? phones unplugged





Meltdown! GOP bosses? phones unplugged
 

davekc

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Always have been, always will be. Any wonders the 17th Amendment should be repealed and return to what the Constitution was meant to be? Marxist Medicine is going to be a disaster. ANYONE who voted for this should have to rot in Detroit for what they have done to this country. Freedom is gone. Have to go to government approved DR's for DOT's starting in May. Have to have government approved/controlled insurance. Have to have government approved light bulbs, toilets, schools, cars. This just sucks.

I can't WAIT to find out what my lack of health care options are going to cost me. Some estimates say my premiums will TRIPLE. Barry can go suck a thistle.

The entire idea is just stupid. Let's see if I get it right. Little Petey cannot afford insurance so the solution to that problem is to the raise the prices so Little Johnny cannot afford it either. While using force to obtain this. Got it right?

It is income redistribution. The "penalties" are to ensure you are "doing your fair share".
Someone has to pay for healthcare for the sidewalk pharmacists and professional Xbox players.
 

Pilgrim

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Along with 434 in the House. Mine is OK. :p
And therein lies the problem. The House needs to grow some stones and demand that Obama compromise by delaying ALL of ObamaCare for a year, to be in sync with the other delays he's given to his cronies. They also should propose that EVERYONE be subject to ObamaCare; that includes Obama himself and all Washington politicians, their staffers, EVERYBODY. The House should ask for both those concessions in return for funding the govt, and a temporary funding measure could be passed for a week or so until the details are worked out. If they should get one of the two demands, at least something has been gained on behalf of the American citizen.
With this plan on the table, the ball is thrown into Obama's court and if he doesn't compromise HE is the one who shuts down the govt - not that it's that big a deal. The govt has been shut down 18 TIMES - all in recent history - and the republic has survived, the country didn't default on anything, planes kept on flying, the lights stayed on and no one starved. In fact, very few people even noticed.

This would be 18th government shutdown in U.S. history - First Read
 

vanman10x2

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This guy is a well educated egotistical nut job. But his anarchist nut job style should resonate well with other nut jobs. Sarah Palin thinks he is the best, that should tell you something.

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muttly

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This guy is a well educated egotistical nut job. But his anarchist nut job style should resonate well with other nut jobs. Sarah Palin thinks he is the best, that should tell you something.

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Are you talking about Barry?
 

davekc

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This may help.

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Turtle

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There is nothing else to take out of his non-filibuster filibuster, than his reading of Dr. Seuss, sorry.
No, I understand, I get it, you can't get past the Dr. Seuss thing, I get it, I get it.

Did I mention he voted "Yes" for Obamacare.
Why, yes, yes you did! And it appears you actually believe that. I get that, too.
 

cheri1122

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I would agree. I don't think that was his point, though.

His point was to focus the eyes of Washington and the nation on the fact that Obamacare has failed. Its own authors have admitted the implementation has been a train wreck, and one by one, every promise spun to the American people about this law has unraveled. Those who can get past Dr. Seuss are able to see it.

How can it have failed, when it hasn't even begun? And if it has failed already, where in the analysis of blame is the Republican [Tea Party especially] efforts to defund, derail, and decry it?

I'm no fan of the ACA, but it is at least an effort to change the ridiculous lack of health care situation, and if there are objections to the program, why don't the legislators work on changing the parts they dislike, instead of throwing the whole thing out? Surely there are some parts they like, as it was a Republican idea before Obama promoted it, right?
I think a compromise would be good: delay the whole program until both sides can work out their differences and create a program that might succeed. But threatening to 'shut down' the government over it is just extortion, IMO, and that's in nobody's best interests.
 

layoutshooter

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How about just getting the federal government OUT of private individuals health care? THAT would lower the price more than anything. EVERYTHING the government touches falls apart and ends up costing WAY more than it did prior to their involvement. Health care will be NO different. On top of that, health care none of the governments business. What in the world to THEY know about it? The issue is a personal issue only.

Why is it that IF this "program" is SO good why do they need to use force to implement it? If it were good people would be flocking to it like grackles to a corn field.

As to shutting down the government, it would be a blessing. When ever they are doing anything it ends up costing us more money than it should, lowers services and depresses freedom.
 

davekc

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How can it have failed, when it hasn't even begun? And if it has failed already, where in the analysis of blame is the Republican [Tea Party especially] efforts to defund, derail, and decry it?

I'm no fan of the ACA, but it is at least an effort to change the ridiculous lack of health care situation, and if there are objections to the program, why don't the legislators work on changing the parts they dislike, instead of throwing the whole thing out? Surely there are some parts they like, as it was a Republican idea before Obama promoted it, right?
I think a compromise would be good: delay the whole program until both sides can work out their differences and create a program that might succeed. But threatening to 'shut down' the government over it is just extortion, IMO, and that's in nobody's best interests.

Sadly, they is usually the only avenue to pursue to invoke any kind of change. The republicans have offered some some changes to the train wreck and every one of them wasn't even looked at.
Why? Just politics. Nothing more than that.
Then when the democrats are faced with the problems that are already identified, they offer exemptions and waivers. Including themselves of course. Even many democrats say the thing is a disaster but it is imperative to ram it through so Obama looks good.
It has never been what is good for the people, it is all about politics and money. As for it was a republican plan, well...not really. That is a MSM spin. What you have now doesn't even resemble what the republicans put out there. That would include MA. They tried to take a germ of a state plan and make it national. Bad idea.
 
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LDB

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And if Ted Cruz were instead named Wendy Davis and rather than pointing out the stupidity of Obamacare were instead advocating murdering unborn babies there would be no condemnation of his filibuster, there would be high praise.
 

cheri1122

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If the ACA really is the train wreck the Republicans insist, the smart thing would have been for them to pass it without any changes or demands at all, thus putting the blame solely on Obama and the supporters.
PS Congress is not exempt from the ACA, FYI. They [and the Senate] are subject to the same provisions as the rest of us.
 

cheri1122

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And if Ted Cruz were instead named Wendy Davis and rather than pointing out the stupidity of Obamacare were instead advocating murdering unborn babies there would be no condemnation of his filibuster, there would be high praise.

So, when Ms Davis is elected the next Governor of Texas, will you be moving out of the state in protest? ;)
 

LDB

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Unlike Alec Baldwin, Jane Fonda and various other liberal morons, I'm not making hysterical claims I will later renege upon. She'll win the Austin vote and the unfit mothers vote and the stupid vote. Hopefully that will not be enough to elect her.
 

davekc

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If the ACA really is the train wreck the Republicans insist, the smart thing would have been for them to pass it without any changes or demands at all, thus putting the blame solely on Obama and the supporters.
PS Congress is not exempt from the ACA, FYI. They [and the Senate] are subject to the same provisions as the rest of us.

That may happen. As for Congress, they have to participate but are demanding a larger exemption/subsidy because they will have to take a pay cut along with their aides.
 

Pilgrim

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If the ACA really is the train wreck the Republicans insist, the smart thing would have been for them to pass it without any changes or demands at all, thus putting the blame solely on Obama and the supporters.
PS Congress is not exempt from the ACA, FYI. They [and the Senate] are subject to the same provisions as the rest of us.
Not exactly; you conveniently left out the minor details regarding their subsidies.
All over the country, people are worried about how Obamacare will affect the cost and quality of their health coverage. Members of Congress and their staffs were especially panicked, because it appeared that the Affordable Care Act required them to purchase coverage on the law’s new insurance exchanges, but without the generous subsidy they receive for their current coverage. Capitol Hill collectively exhaled yesterday, when it came out that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management would allow members and their staffs to keep their insurance subsidies.

Congressmen Rejoice! Govt. To Subsidize Their Health Insurance Through Obamacare's Exchanges - Forbes
More liberal half-truths straight from the ObamaCare talking points. The House, Senate and all their staffers will be subject to the same health care costs as everybody else - except that the taxpayers pick up the tab for them.
 
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