Gowdy takes MSM to the woodshed

muttly

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Ahhh ... anything that's in post #75 (or in this thread) has absolutely zero to do with the answer I'm waiting for ... ;)

You still haven't answered Turtle's question BTW - the response you provided (most recently) was a deflection ... and actually a non-sequitur (so ... bonus points ...)

I'll help you out - here's the question again:

"Now that you've seen the entire press conference, would you characterize his comments as stunning an entire room filled with journalists into silence, or that they are even shamed by his comments?"
I'll ask you the same question. Do you know for certain that Gowdy didn't shame a whole room into silence? If so , how?
 

Turtle

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The entire event is not the question. The question is (as the title of the video says) did Gowdy shame a full room in to silence? Can you tell me for CERTAIN that this wasn't the case? Yes or no?

Man, YOU'RE the one who posted links to the entire press conference. After you did that, I asked the question. So, yes, the entire event is, in fact, the question. After watching the video of the entire event, yes, I can tell your for certain that those questions didn't shame those journalists into silence.

I'd ask the question of you once again, but clearly you have not watched the entire event, so it would be pointless to do so. And a you've referenced the headline more than one now, I can only assume you believe it, so the question at this point becomes rhetorical, anyway.
 

RLENT

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Dude,

You're rapidly approaching "tbubster" land ...

I'll ask you the same question. Do you know for certain that Gowdy didn't shame a whole room into silence?
Yes ...

If so, how?
Because I watched the entire (continuous) press conference - which includes Gowdy - and then observed individuals - presumably the journalists - immediately begin to ask questions at the conclusion of the remarks of the last Congress Critter to speak ...

And - just for the record - you still didn't answer the question ...

ROTFLMAO ...

We've now arrived in Clownville ...

Because BENGHAAZZI !!!!
 
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muttly

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Dude,

You're rapidly approaching "tbubster" land ...


Yes ...


Because I watched the entire (continuous) press conference - which includes Gowdy - and then observed individuals - presumably the journalists - immediately begin to ask questions at the conclusion of the remarks of the last Congress Critter to speak ...

And - just for the record - you still didn't answer the question ...

ROTFLMAO ...

We've now arrived in Clownville ...

Because BENGHAAZZI !!!!
Yes , I answered the question. You just don't like the answer . Nobody is required to give you an answer you want.
 

cheri1122

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Disagree with your premise. It appears some instead want to divert attention away from important issues, by instead pointing to shiny objects over there like possible empty press conferences,(that aren't ) derangement attitudes towards Allen West, and who Roger Ailes hires.;)

So who introduced the press conference and Allen West into the discussion, hmmmm?

I'll cop to Stacy Dash, because: Benghazi!
Ok, seriously: because something about Allen West and Fox just seems to make her a natural [if there's anything natural about her at all :rolleyes:] companion.
 

muttly

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So who introduced the press conference and Allen West into the discussion, hmmmm?

I'll cop to Stacy Dash, because: Benghazi!
Ok, seriously: because something about Allen West and Fox just seems to make her a natural [if there's anything natural about her at all :rolleyes:] companion.
I introduced the entire press conference because it was alluded to, perhaps not seriously, that no one was there. I posted the Allen West article for two reasons. One,was because it referred to some similar information I posted in the next article I posted. ( which still no one was interested in addressing) and secondly, to see if the O.A.T.S contingent would take the bait, like they usually do, involving all things Allen West. Yep...hook,line, and sinker. Hehe.
 

RLENT

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Yes , I answered the question. You just don't like the answer.
Yeah ... you answered it alright ... pretty much in the same manner as the following:

Turtle's Q: What time does the game start ?

Muttly's A: Potato ...

LOL ...

Nobody is required to give you an answer you want.
That's certainly true ...

However, it also might be true that if one doesn't want to be perceived as being completely disingenuous - or perhaps just bat-crap crazy - the answers probably have to be at least responsive and not non-sequitur ...

It occurs to me that perhaps a part of the reason for the difficulties you seem to be experiencing stems from a fundamental misunderstanding on your part, as to what you're actually involved in here:

You apparently think that it's primarily a contest of wills ...

It's really not - it's more of a contest of intellects (of the minds)
 
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RLENT

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I introduced the entire press conference because it was alluded to, perhaps not seriously, that no one was there.
Evidently all without bothering to consider that by doing so you managed discredit both the article in the OP, and the person making the OP ...

Now that right there is an incredibly crafty move ...

Nothing like the smell of a little "friendly fire" and "foot bullets" in the morning ...

I posted the Allen West article for two reasons. One,was because it referred to some similar information I posted in the next article I posted. (which still no one was interested in addressing)
Personally, I haven't gotten around to reading Hersh's articles yet ... but I eventually will ... mainly because they look like they might be good journalism ... although Hersh does certainly have a history of making allegations that aren't always confirmed or completely proven out.

I read a little bit and then quickly scanned the remainders ... and I'm not going to comment on them further until I have actually read them fully.

You - of all people - should understand why I'd choose to do that - in light of your recent experiences with commenting (and/or failing to comment) on videos that you apparently haven't actually bothered to watch.

BTW, on this:

"I posted the Allen West article for two reasons. One,was because it referred to some similar information I posted in the next article I posted."

You might wish to consider how the above is problematic from the standpoint of sequence and logic ... by assigning the motivation or cause for doing something to an event which has not yet occurred ...

Of course, you can tell us all about how it was part of "The Muttly Master Plan" ... I'm sure we'll believe ya ... ;)

and secondly, to see if the O.A.T.S contingent would take the bait, like they usually do, involving all things Allen West. Yep...hook, line, and sinker. Hehe.
The above is all roughly analogous to being a standup comedian ... and being forced to explain the "joke" you just told, when greeted with the audience's inevitable silence ...

IOW: Don't quit the day job ...
 
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cheri1122

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Barkly: if anyone can "divert attention away from serious issues", it's Allen West and Stacy Dash. Him, because he's a raving loony tune, and her, because she is a shiny object. :rolleyes:
 

muttly

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Barkly: if anyone can "divert attention away from serious issues", it's Allen West and Stacy Dash. Him, because he's a raving loony tune, and her, because she is a shiny object. :rolleyes:
It's not whether they can divert attention, it's how EASY they can, from the 'contingent '. Hehe.
 

cheri1122

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It's not whether they can divert attention, it's how EASY they can, from the 'contingent '. Hehe.

The streaker at the last Republican Convention [?] got everyone's attention pretty easily too, is he the next 'political commentator'? :rolleyes:
 

muttly

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Of course you do ... ;)


Nah ... I think that a discussion of the wisdom of an imperialistic foreign policy of meddling and interventionism would be a very good thing ...

The problem for the wing-nuts is largely one of sequence, framing, and methodology - as an example take Rooster's "investigation": First, the result/outcome is defined ... and then the investigation for evidence takes place, to support the result.

To your credit, you (eventually) offered up some serious journalism - which could be used in the context of a legitimate discussion ... but unfortunately for you, you only did it after first going to Wing-Nut Central ...

And that is, itself, quite telling ...


Well, I really have to congratulate you: you succeeded in actually finding a clip of the full press conference ... a clip which showed that - yet once again - our resident expert at finding inaccurate, false, and misleading articles in the wing-nut-o-sphere is still on his "A Game" ...

Which is shown by the immediately un-silent journalists and their continued asking of questions for a period of 13 1/2 minutes ... whenever they could get Col. Beauregard's date for the cotillion to shut her bloviating pie-hole long enough so that they could actually ask a question of course ...

That you did this while entirely missing the point of Turtle post most certainly accrues to your credit, such as it is ...


If you want to truly understand derangement attitudes I'd suggest you do an advanced search on the Soapbox, using the screen names of some of your right-wing brethren using "Obama" as the search term and have a look at the specific results (IOW: read what it is that is being said)

The search engine maxes out at 500 results ... and I can name 3 of your confreres - aka "the usual suspects" who max it out.

Sadly, you didn't quite make cut ... coming in with only 428 results.

Now ... if you then take my screen name and search using the words "Allen" and "West" you will find that the search engine will return a total of 21 results ... which includes at least one result where something where something like this occured: both "General John Allen" and the "West Bank" are mentioned in an article I have quoted.

So ... sadly, no ...


One can't help but note what Roger Ailes is appealing to ...

Interestingly, it's a strat that seems to be working ... in that it certainly is attracting those who apparently do their thinking with that portion of their anatomy ...
Your flawed search engine investigation is quite humorous. Given that one is a President, and has been so for over 5 years. He also would naturally drive the news a BIT MORE than a former congressman (of many) from Florida. Not necessarily agree with your premise, that it is indicative of 'derangement attitudes', and given the following sentence, you might agree.
A certain someone has a certain 'propensity' to post about a certain piece of land in the Middle East. Hehehe....
 
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muttly

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Barkly: if anyone can "divert attention away from serious issues", it's Allen West and Stacy Dash. Him, because he's a raving loony tune, and her, because she is a shiny object. :rolleyes:
Barkly? I'm not Barkly or Barkley. He is a former basketball player and a turrible,just turrible golfer.
 

RLENT

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Your flawed search engine investigation is quite humorous.
Well, what can I tell ya ... I don't code for vBulletin, so I can't really claim much credit for their flawed search engine ...

Who knows ... maybe they will fix it in a future update ?

Personally, I don't know what humor there is in a search engine that doesn't work altogether properly, but then I guess there is really no accounting for taste ...

Given that one is a President, and has been so for over 5 years. He also would naturally drive the news a BIT MORE than a former congressman (of many) from Florida.
Quite true ... which is why I also specifically said to read what is being said ...

Numbers alone aren't necessarily indicative ...

Not necessarily agree with your premise, that it is indicative of 'derangement attitudes', and given the following sentence, you might agree.
Evidently, you really don't understand my premise: See above.

A certain someone has a certain 'propensity' to post about a certain piece of land in the Middle East.
Again: apparently you don't fully understand my premise.

Arf ...
 

RLENT

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Not flawed search engine. I said flawed search engine 'INVESTIGATION'.
Flawed assumption (that was an "investigation") ... no need for me to "investigate" ... as I've been here, all along, observing it. I know what's there ...

I simply provided the suggestion as a way for you to familiarize yourself ...
 

cheri1122

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The streaker at the last Republican Convention [?] got everyone's attention pretty easily too, is he the next 'political commentator'? :rolleyes:

Since you didn't answer, I will: if he tweets support for any Republican, the job offer from Fox is a shoo in.
And the audience won't find it any more bizarre than Stacy Dash [whose 1 major movie they've not seen], because they won't recognize the face, lol. ;)
 
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