letzrockexpress
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Happy Memorial Day JohnnyBigRig!...Did I yank your chain?
Glenn Beck Goes 'Over the Line' by Mocking Malia
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Happy Memorial Day JohnnyBigRig!...Did I yank your chain?
Tennesseahawk
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I'll agree that Beck is an (expletive), but not for mocking the president's daughter. There are other reasons. But as Pilgrim pointed out, Obama used his own daughter as a political tool. For that alone, Obama is an (expletive). But there are so many other reasons to boot.
As far as Beck goes watch his tv show, I don't need to do your home work for you. As far as you hurling insults and making accusations towards people or groups you have already provided the evedince to prove that in your posts.
dieseldiva
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Go??? REALLY???
Tennesseahawk
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Go where? Personally, I wish he'd go away. Beck is nothing but a wolf in sheep's clothing, looking to make a buck off of something I don't think he believes in. But I guess it's better that a charlatan does what he's doing, than no one. The message he sends does need to get out, afterall.
The dude can make himself cry on cue. That talent should be getting him 20 million a movie and he probably wouldn't have to work nearly as many hours. He's just another DJ that said, "Hey, if Rush can do it, so can I."
I've seen Mancow pop up on Fox News. This is a guy that failed at the Howard Stern game, so now he's gonna try and be a "concerned about the issues" guy. Fox should be a bit more concerned with their reputation.
I've seen Mancow pop up on Fox News. This is a guy that failed at the Howard Stern game, so now he's gonna try and be a "concerned about the issues" guy. Fox should be a bit more concerned with their reputation.
letzrockexpress
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Nope, homework's done. Not insults, merely observations, some from personal experience on the subject. You are the one who said Mr. Beck backs his nonsense with facts. I am saying show them to me if they truly exist. My view is that they do not exist.
My mere personal observations of your posts leads me to believe you like to insult and insinuate.
The very fact that you say Glen beck incites violence and says he does not back things up with facts pretty much proves you have not paid attention to his show even if you pretended to listen. I have no doubt as with anyone of that much air time you can find a couple times they screwed up and did not check their facts. The huge majority of the time I have watched his show he has given info to back his claims.
dieseldiva
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Everyone serves a purpose....even Glenn Beck.
letzrockexpress
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On the contrary my friend. I am entitled to my opinion. You are entitled to yours. You say there are facts, I say put up or shut up. Either present them or quit droning on.
letzrockexpress
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Which means what? This I gotta hear.
Doggie Daddy
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As I said before I am not doing your homework for you. If I want to drone on, well that's the beauty of an open forum... I can. I don't think I at anytime asked you to stop with your opinion or posts on this matter.
letzrockexpress
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Fine, have at it Xman.....
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Almost sixty posts on this thread so far, and all that's been established is that Glenn Beck is an "a**hole", that he "dangerous", "needs to go", "an untreated drunk", "scares the **** out of people" and spews unfounded nonsense. The only statement of fact so far is that he's a Mormon. Are there any substantive assertions other than name calling?
- Why is he dangerous?
- Why does he need to "go" (which I assume means off the air)? His ratings are good and he's making money for his network. Isn't he allowed the right of free speech?
- How do we know he scares people? Who is scared?
- What nonsensical statements has he made that are not supported by facts? If someone is going to make this claim about anyone, they should first differentiate between statements of fact as opposed to opinions. He's entitled to his opinions and editorial comments, nonsensical or otherwise. If he's representing something as factual, then he needs to back it up; from what little I've seen of Beck's TV show, he does this. If someone is going to claim he's misrepresenting the facts, then they had better have some examples handy - otherwise, they're just spewing unfounded nonsense.
dieseldiva
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I can think of two that may fit into that category.
Jake Tapper at ABC news and Major Garrett at Fox. Both are liberals but fearless in their pursuit of the truth. Neither shies away from pushing on the administration to get to the story.
Yes. He plays on the fears of his audience solely for ratings. Most news organizations (and The Weather Channel) participate heavily in the merchandising of doom and gloom for fun and profit. The scarier it is, the worse the news, the more sensational it is, the more people will watch, read or listen, and the higher the ratings.
People, most of them, are highly influenced by what they see, read and hear, especially on television. If something is stated often enough, eventually people will believe it, whether it's true or not. And when it's stated on television, a news broadcast or on a news network in particular, it doesn't even have to be stated all that often for people to believe it. Often, one time is enough. Beck has a television show on a news network that bills itself as "Fair and Balanced", of which it is neither, yet people believe that, too, because they are told to believe it. Because of that, Beck has a venue of high influence. Instead of using that influence responsibly, he uses it to mold opinion, validate and bolster fears, and in many cases actually creates fear with incendiary rhetoric where fear should not even exist, all for the sole purpose of ratings, of making Glenn Beck money. That's dangerous.
Well, the right of free speech is the right to say whatever you want without being subjected to reprisals from the government. You are still subject to reprisals from everyone else. But free speech is not the issue here, honesty and responsibility is. But as long as he gets good ratings, then his network could care less about honesty and responsibility. If he were to "go" then his network would just replace him with someone else who would garner high ratings, with honesty and responsibility taking a back seat. The problem with Glenn Beck's free speech is that he has an artificial stage of high influence with which to spread his free speech. He is on a television news network which by definition is supposed to the the unbiased presentation of news, i.e., what happened and why, yet he doesn't do that.
Glenn Beck is not a journalist, or even a political commentator, he is a celebrity entrepreneur who own his own multimedia production company, which owns and produces both his radio and television show. I wouldn't take my political advice from Susan Sarandon or Alec Baldwin any more than I'd take it from a celebrity like Glenn Beck.
I don't know that he actually scares people, but he does validate those who are already scared, primarily those who don't like change and are scared of losing what they perceive to be the "traditional values" of America. He takes things that are narrowly connected, if at all, and then connects them up in straight-line cause and effect fashion, and then makes the leap to conclusion. He takes people who are narrow-minded and scared, afraid of change who are unwilling to change, and then spoon-feeds them things they already "know" to be "true" which validates their fears and validates them as a person. That way, you can parrot Glenn Beck and your own fears out loud without sounding like a racist, Bible-thumping moron. People eat it up.
The people who believe in global warming are socialists. The government spent $1.4 million in stimulus funds to repair a door at Dyess Air Force Base. When you log onto the government Web site cars.com, the government owns all of the files on your computer. Progressives are exactly like Hitler, and they will start coming for us and shooting us unless we start shooting them in the head first. The entire decline of middle class is constituted of people moving up into the upper class, not down to the lower class. Health care reform is a government takeover of 1/6 of the US economy. Health care reform will cause people to stop wanting to become doctors. Health care reform will cause Republicans to lose their health care so that Democrats can have more and better health care. All it takes is 30 percent of employees wanting a union for the union to become established. The Green Jobs czar is a communist black nationalist who is unconcerned about green jobs and is only concerned with reparations for blacks. The average UAW worker earns $154.00 an hour if you add in all of the benefits. Prepare your family and build the life boats, because what's coming is so horrific that I cannot say it outloud. I am not a fear monger and anyone who says I am is a liar.
{I can go on if you like. I've just scratched the surface here.}
Glenn Beck is a fear monger. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. "What's coming is so horrific that I cannot say it out loud," is what they teach you on the first day of Fear Mongering School, to make people fear something that you won't even tell them what it is, to make them fear the unknown.
Of course he is. Then again, he's not entitled to voicing them on the radio and television, as that's something that comes with compensation and is not an entitlement, but that's more of an issue with the network than it is with him.
Then you need to watch more of Glenn Beck's show, because he backs up very little of what he claims with facts. He has no problem stretching, skewing or chopping up the truth, or just flat out lying about it, if it makes his point. One of the biggest misconceptions of fallacy today is when people say, "He presents facts and evidence to support whatever he says." These are people who don't understand the facts nor the evidence that is being presented.
I've got lots more if you are interested.
Here's a video of where Glenn Beck lied, and gets busted, and then justifies his lies and not checking his facts because he's not an investigative reporter, he's a commentator. It's an interesting video because it shows how he lied about something completely inconsequential, utterly unimportant, and defended it. It shows how easy it is for him to lie, and how comfortable he is with lying.
YouTube - Glenn ambushed on 'The View'
"Glenn Beck is a fear monger. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. "What's coming is so horrific that I cannot say it out loud,"
is what they teach you on the first day of Fear Mongering School, to make people fear something that you won't even tell them what it is, to make them fear the unknown."
Sounds like Obama, Pelosi and almost every other politician out there. Is Beck as racist as Obama and Co. are? I don't know, I never listen to him.
is what they teach you on the first day of Fear Mongering School, to make people fear something that you won't even tell them what it is, to make them fear the unknown."
Sounds like Obama, Pelosi and almost every other politician out there. Is Beck as racist as Obama and Co. are? I don't know, I never listen to him.