George Zimmerman's wife arrested for perjury

witness23 · Jun 13, 2012

Wow! How stupid can you be?

LInk: George Zimmerman's wife arrested for perjury

SANFORD --
George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, was booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility Tuesday on one count of perjury.

Deputies arrested Shellie Zimmerman, 25, where she was living around 3:30 p.m. and bonded out less than an hour later.

The bond was set at $1,000.

Earlier this month, prosecutors accused Shellie of lying to the court during a bond hearing for her husband in April. Shellie testified by phone about how much money they had, which turned out to be much more than originally claimed.

Prosecutor: Were you aware of the website that Mr. Zimmerman or somebody on his behalf created?

Shellie: I'm aware of the website.

Prosecutor: How much money is in that website right now? How much money as a result of that website was--

Shellie: Currently, I do not know

According to the probable cause affidavit, investigators looked into the financial records of George, Shellie, and George’s sister.

Investigators said the records showed that Shellie transferred more than $74,000 from George’s account to hers.

It was in recorded phone calls between George and Shellie, while he was in jail, that officials heard them discuss their finances and the transferring of money, investigators said.

George Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara said in a statement that Shellie would have to find independent counsel as it would be a conflict of interest for his law firm to represent her.

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The timeline of events involving Shellie and George and how they handled the money, according to the investigation:

4/15 3:29 p.m. - George and Shellie discuss their finances and transferring money in a recorded jail phone call.
4/16 2:26 p.m. - George and Shellie discuss transferring money in a recorded jail phone call
4/16 2:32 p.m. - George and Shellie discuss paying the bond in a recorded jail phone call
4/16 - Credit union records show Shellie had two withdrawals from her account at $9,000 each
4/16-17 - Credit union records show more than $47,000 was transferred from George Zimmerman’s account to his sister’s
4/19 9:36 a.m. - George and Shellie discuss taking money from a safety deposit box
4/16-4/19 - Credit union records show Shellie made four different transfers of $9,990, two transfers of $9,999, and two transfers of $7,500 to George Zimmerman’s account
4/20 - Shellie Zimmerman testified at the bond hearing of George.
4/23 - George Zimmerman bonds out of the Seminole County Jail shortly after midnight
4/24 - Shellie Zimmerman transferred $85,500 from her account to George’s

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How will this affect the George Zimmerman's case?
Criminal defense attorney Joy Ragan said his wife's arrest could hurt George Zimmerman at his trial.

"I think they'll offer her probation but insist she be a convicted felon so that her credibility would be in question if she were to become a witness," said Ragan.

Ragan suspects Shellie's defense will try to stall her case until after her husband's is over, but that's not the only issue she'll face moving forward.

"If you're a convicted felon, you're going to have problems with the nursing board and any other job you would apply for," siad Ragan.

The special prosecutor's office declined to comment on anything other than releasing the probable cause affidavit.

Shellie is not scheduled to appear in court until July 31.

The maximum on his perjury charge is five year in prison.

witness23 · Jun 13, 2012

Just when you thought they couldn't be anymore ignorant, you have George and his wifes phone conversations from the jail.

Link: http://www.baynews9.com/content/dam...nts/2012/06/Shellie-Zimmerman-Arrest-0612.pdf

muttly · Jun 13, 2012

How stupid can you be? Yes the prosecution office led by Angela Corey are acting like imbiciles.

Angela Corey who according to Alan Dershowitz said she thinks it's perfectly ok to submit an affidavit to the court filled with half truths, which are actually lies.
Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutor Threatening to Sue Harvard for My Criticism

layoutshooter · Jun 13, 2012

Perjury is not that big a deal, just ask Bill Clinton. He got away with it! What is good for a president is OKEE DOKEE for everyone else!

Brisco · Jun 13, 2012

muttly said:
How stupid can you be? Yes the prosecution office led by Angela Corey are acting like imbiciles.

Angela Corey who according to Alan Dershowitz said she thinks it's perfectly ok to submit an affidavit to the court filled with half truths, which are actually lies.
Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutor Threatening to Sue Harvard for My Criticism

And I hope she DOES file a Lawsuit against Harvard........

And then I hope every Brilliant Harvard Degreed Lawyer, especially Dershowitz, volunteers to be on Zimmermans "Dream Team" to show respect towards their Alma Mater and to disrespect the "Special Prosecutor" that believes she is the Queen of Social Media when it comes to social media induced frivolous criminal charges.

Turtle · Jun 13, 2012

The problem is Zimmerman lied to the judge, and conspired with his wife to do so. Judges tend take a dim view of that sort of thing. So do juries.

Brisco · Jun 13, 2012

But you also have to agree that this "Special Prosecutor" deserves the criticism coming from Dershowitz's brilliant mind....right?

If all this "Hiding Assets" allegations George and his wife are being accused of comes to fruition, then I'll be one to say Yes, they were both in the wrong, period.

But, these 2nd Degree Murder charges brought against Zimmerman were clearly induced by Social Media Pressure, and this "Special Prosecutor" clearly mislead the Courts in getting that charge past a Judge......Plain and Simple.

Turtle · Jun 13, 2012

Oh, Dershowitz is right. This is just one of many cases that illustrates how prosecutors often (most of the time?) could truly care less about the truth, much less the whole truth and nothing but.

cheri1122 · Jun 13, 2012

I'm no fan of prosecutors, [they're usually more politician than law officer], but I'm not so sure Dershowitz is right. Exculpatory evidence [if that's even what it is - the injuries only show there was a fight, nothing at all about who started it] has to be shared with the defense, but if a person isn't indicted or charged, there is no defense - does the law obligate them to proffer it prior to any charges being filed? I'm thinking of the well known remark about a prosecutor getting a ham sandwich indicted - if it's that easy, it's because the bar is way lower than it is at trial.
Zimmerman lied when he identified himself as a Neighborhood Watch volunteer [and allowed the HOA to present him as such] when he knew he wasn't, and he still hasn't been truthful about it. That his wife lied for him is no surprise at all.
AMonger: did you know Zimmerman's father is a retired magistrate with some powerful 'friends' in the area? A lot of locals believe that Zimmerman would have been arrested [as the investigating officer recommended] if his father hadn't pulled some strings...

witness23 · Jun 14, 2012

muttly said:
How stupid can you be? Yes the prosecution office led by Angela Corey are acting like imbiciles.

Angela Corey who according to Alan Dershowitz said she thinks it's perfectly ok to submit an affidavit to the court filled with half truths, which are actually lies.
Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutor Threatening to Sue Harvard for My Criticism

What's that story from "Newsmax", of all places, have anything to do with Mrs. Zimmerman committing perjury during a bond hearing?

I have to go now, I have to deposit $10.00 in my bank account.

Retards.

muttly · Jun 14, 2012

witness23 said:
What's that story from "Newsmax", of all places, have anything to do with Mrs. Zimmerman committing perjury during a bond hearing?

I have to go now, I have to deposit $10.00 in my bank account. Retards.

You don't see the irony and the hypocrisy of prosecutor Angela Corey? The affidavit that was sent to the court by her that is sworn to be truthfull,yet filled with half truths and very possibly exculpitory evidence. From a very conservative lawyer Mark Levin to a very liberal lawyer Alan Dershowiz agree the sworn affidavit wasn't written ethically and seemed to be written by a first year D student law student.

witness23 · Jun 14, 2012

muttly said:
You don't see the irony and the hypocrisy of prosecutor Angela Corey? The affidavit that was sent to the court by her that is sworn to be truthfull,yet filled with half truths and very possibly exculpitory evidence.

From what I gathered from your article and what you are trying to say is, Mr. Dershowitz is complaining about the original affidavit submitted to bring Mr. Zimmerman in for questioning. His beef is that it omitted the injuries that were "allegedly" sustained by Mr. Zimmerman that fateful night Trayvon Martin sustained a life ending gun shot wound. Basically you have two lawyers whining about one another in the media.

My article was about Shellie Zimmerman committing perjury. I guess you could argue; if this affidavit sent to the courts didn't have Mrs. Zimmerman's testimony on how much money they had, along with the hilarious phone calls from the jailhouse, yes, I could then see your point. Like turtle said, judges don't take too kindly of being lied to and neither do juries.

From a very conservative lawyer Mark Levin to a very liberal lawyer Alan Dershowiz agree the sworn affidavit wasn't written ethically and seemed to be written by a first year D student law student.

Mark Levin? Who and why are you referring to Mark Levin? Why do you describe Mr. Dershowitz as a liberal lawyer?

Come to think of it, why am I even commenting on your nonsense?

The courts have testimony from Shellie Zimmerman on how much money the couple actually had and it turned out they had a lot more than she was willing to tell the courts. They have the phone conversations with George Zimmerman speaking in "code" on how to handle the money and they also have a record of bank transactions on large amounts of cash being transferred. The phone calls and the transfers of the money happened before her questioning.

Again, here is the timeline from my article above. Notice the date of the questioning and the goings on before that testimony.

The timeline of events involving Shellie and George and how they handled the money, according to the investigation:

4/15 3:29 p.m. - George and Shellie discuss their finances and transferring money in a recorded jail phone call.
4/16 2:26 p.m. - George and Shellie discuss transferring money in a recorded jail phone call
4/16 2:32 p.m. - George and Shellie discuss paying the bond in a recorded jail phone call
4/16 - Credit union records show Shellie had two withdrawals from her account at $9,000 each
4/16-17 - Credit union records show more than $47,000 was transferred from George Zimmerman’s account to his sister’s
4/19 9:36 a.m. - George and Shellie discuss taking money from a safety deposit box
4/16-4/19 - Credit union records show Shellie made four different transfers of $9,990, two transfers of $9,999, and two transfers of $7,500 to George Zimmerman’s account
4/20 - Shellie Zimmerman testified at the bond hearing of George.
4/23 - George Zimmerman bonds out of the Seminole County Jail shortly after midnight
4/24 - Shellie Zimmerman transferred $85,500 from her account to George’s

Turtle · Jun 14, 2012

Mrs. Zimmerman getting arrested, and Angela Corey are really two distinct topics.

witness23 · Jun 14, 2012

Now that we have that figured out.

Like the article asks, how will this effect her husbands trial?

If Mr. Zimmerman is willing to mislead the courts and lie about his financial situation and make his wife an accomplice in lying to the court, what else is he capable of doing? In my opinion, it does not bode well for him and the prosecution is going to hammer this home with the jurors.

We haven't even discussed what cheri mentioned about Mr. Zimmerman's father being a retired magistrate. Whoa Nellie!!

muttly · Jun 14, 2012

witness23 said:
From what I gathered from your article and what you are trying to say is, Mr. Dershowitz is complaining about the original affidavit submitted to bring Mr. Zimmerman in for questioning. His beef is that it omitted the injuries that were "allegedly" sustained by Mr. Zimmerman that fateful night Trayvon Martin sustained a life ending gun shot wound. Basically you have two lawyers whining about one another in the media.

My article was about Shellie Zimmerman committing perjury. I guess you could argue; if this affidavit sent to the courts didn't have Mrs. Zimmerman's testimony on how much money they had, along with the hilarious phone calls from the jailhouse, yes, I could then see your point. Like turtle said, judges don't take too kindly of being lied to and neither do juries.

Mark Levin? Who and why are you referring to Mark Levin? Why do you describe Mr. Dershowitz as a liberal lawyer?

Come to think of it, why am I even commenting on your nonsense?

The courts have testimony from Shellie Zimmerman on how much money the couple actually had and it turned out they had a lot more than she was willing to tell the courts. They have the phone conversations with George Zimmerman speaking in "code" on how to handle the money and they also have a record of bank transactions on large amounts of cash being transferred. The phone calls and the transfers of the money happened before her questioning.

Again, here is the timeline from my article above. Notice the date of the questioning and the goings on before that testimony.

Yes like turtle said judges don't take to kindly to being lied to. So Mrs. Zimmerman is determined to not being truthful about their money situation and is now experiencing the wrath of the court. Whoopdedoo. Now she will have felony record and probably have trouble keeping her current job or getting a future one.
I guess the judge could have admonished her and sent her on her way,but since the prosecution thinks it's soooo important to be ENTIRELY truthful about information presented in court they filed perjury charges. Wonderful. Where was that determination for the truth when filing their affidavit? If you think that filing a untruthfull affidavit that omits material evidence is a bunch of nonsense well that is very telling .

muttly · Jun 14, 2012

witness23 said:
Now that we have that figured out.

Like the article asks, how will this effect her husbands trial?

If Mr. Zimmerman is willing to mislead the courts and lie about his financial situation and make his wife an accomplice in lying to the court, what else is he capable of doing? In my opinion, it does not bode well for him and the prosecution is going to hammer this home with the jurors.

We haven't even discussed what cheri mentioned about Mr. Zimmerman's father being a retired magistrate. Whoa Nellie!!

So using your logic since the lead prosecutor is willing to present half truths and to intentionally omit material evidence in a sworn affidavit to a magistrate, in essence lying to a court: What else is Angela Corey and the prosecution willing to do? It might not bode well for them when trying to hammer home evidence to a jury.

witness23 · Jun 14, 2012

muttly said:
So using your logic since the lead prosecutor is willing to present half truths and to intentionally omit material evidence in a sworn affidavit to a magistrate, in essence lying to a court: What else is Angela Corey and the prosecution willing to do? It might not bode well for them when trying to hammer home evidence to a jury.

Seriously bro, you need to turn off the FoxNews and the conservative talk radio shows in which you are obvioulsy listening to. The affidavit you and Mr. Dershowitz are so up in arms about is a "Affidavit of Probable Cause" which isn't a formal charge. Seriously, do a little research of your own before you start referencing a lawyer that appeared on an opinion talk show on FoxNews

BTW, were you also referencing Mark Levin the talk show host?

Here is a good place to start:

Why Alan Dershowitz Is Completely Wrong About the Zimmerman Case | The View From LL2

Monty · Jun 14, 2012

Why don't we just wait for the trial, the verdict, and then comment?

Trial by Internet chat site isn't covered in the Constitution ...... oh wait .. maybe we should check to see if the SCOTUS is checking that now, like they do foriegn law!

witness23 · Jun 14, 2012

muttly said:
So using your logic since the lead prosecutor is willing to present half truths

What half-truths would that be?

and to intentionally omit material evidence in a sworn affidavit to a magistrate, in essence lying to a court:

I hope after reading my link I provided you will better understand the Affidavit of Probable Cause and understand that the prosecutor did nothing out of the ordinary when presenting it to the court.

What else is Angela Corey and the prosecution willing to do? It might not bode well for them when trying to hammer home evidence to a jury.

Oh I don't know, maybe she is willing to do her job? She hasn't done anything wrong so I'm not sure why the jury would not trust her. Now on the other hand, I can't say the same thing for George and his wife Shellie, especially with what came about from the bond hearing.

Like turtle said earlier:

Turtle said:
Mrs. Zimmerman getting arrested, and Angela Corey are really two distinct topics.

Maybe you should start a thread about Mr. Hershowitz and his hissy fit he is having about Angela Corey.

davekc · Jun 14, 2012

I don't know Witness, that is basically a opinion from a blogger. Here is one for fun from your same source using MSNBC. Wonder if Fox snuck over there for an hour.

Probable Cause Affidavit in George Zimmerman Case Woefully Inadequate - South Florida Criminal Lawyers Blog

or
http://www.southfloridacriminallawy...rayvon-martins-case-may-not-go-to-a-jury.html

Sometimes you need to read a little farther down the page. They are just different opinions.