Genius .... and Boobus .....

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Ron Paul himself thinks a third party is a waste of time so theres that.

 

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For those that think a third party vote is the way to go all you need to do is look to Ron Paul.Really as much as you all say the republican party does not like him,or the many times he has spoken out against the republican party. Of the three times he has run twice have been as republican.The first one was as a third party which he recived less then half a million votes.You see even Paul knows that there is no chance of a third party being elected president.Otherwise he would be running as a third party and not a republican.In doing so he has chosen to be part of what he belives is the lesser of the two evils.With the way that so many claim Paul is disliked by both partys Say he did get on the ticket then won the election.With so many that dislike him how much do any of you really think he can change.

Your comments are accurate. Ron Paul saw the futility of running as a third party candidate so he chose the republican party because at least there is some common ground. Ron Paul is a man with principles,but how does alligning himself with a party that he obviously has contempt for square with his followers some of which are in this forum that have a deep hatred for?

 

[RLENT]

Ron Paul himself thinks a third party is a waste of time so theres that.

Your statement is factually incorrect as far as I know ..... where are you getting this from ?

 

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Your statement is factually incorrect as far as I know ..... where are you getting this from ?

I've heard him comment on it,but will try to find exactly what he said and post it soon.

 

[RLENT]

I've heard him comment on it,but will try to find exactly what he said and post it soon.

Well, if you get tired and bored while trying to dig up something (that you hopefully won't mischaracterize as something it's not ) and wanna take a break, chew on this while you are resting:

September 9, 2008, 7:49 PM

Ron Paul Makes an Appeal for Third-Party Candidates

By MICHAEL FALCONE

Representative Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning congressman from Texas who attracted a devoted following in his bid for the Republican nomination, is once again trying to shake up the presidential race.

At a press conference in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday, Mr. Paul plans to urge voters to support one of the third-party candidates for president rather than cast their ballot for either Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee, or Senator John McCain, the Republican candidate.

“At a time when 60 percent of the American people are dissatisfied with their presidential choices,” Mr. Paul said in a statement, “this could be the year that third-party option brings in a big chunk of the vote.”

And Mr. Paul intends to showcase some of those options at the National Press Club on Wednesday. He will be joined by Ralph Nader, an independent candidate, Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, former Representative Bob Barr of Georgia, who is running on the Libertarian Party ticket and former Georgia congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney, who is the Green Party’s presidential candidate.

According to a spokesman, Mr. Paul plans to say that the Republican and Democratic candidates “have no substantive differences on important issues.”

The four third-party candidates, on the other hand, have agreed to sign on to a four-point plan that includes balancing the federal budget, bringing American troops home, protecting civil liberties and investigating the Federal Reserve.

Mr. Paul’s iconoclastic ways have earned him the scorn of some, especially in the Republican party, who fear he could sap votes from Senator McCain on Election Day, even as he has continued to inspire others who back his reform agenda. Several thousand turned out for his “Rally for Liberty,” in Minneapolis last week, an alternative to the much Republican convention taking place nearby.

Despite that following, he has refused to run on an alternate ticket, saying he is a Republican.

Like to original story:

Ron Paul Makes an Appeal for Third-Party Candidates

IIRC, Bob Barr reneged, backtracking on appearing at the event .....

 

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Paul: Third-party bid unlikely if run for GOP nomination falls short - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room


Sheesh there are priorities. I had to step away for a minute and watch MSU trounce the team down south with those nuts on there helmets.
I kind of remember Paul being interviewed by Neil Cavuto from Fox News awhile back and he seemed resigned that a third party bid would be futile. Something about "third parties lacking credibility" because of" built in bias "and so forth.
He also has commented that you" need a billion dollars" to run as a third party. So for Ron Paul to run as a third party candidate since there are built in biases and lacking a billion dollars he believes it would be a waste of time. This is why he is running as a republican and only an republican.
Paul Rules Out 3rd-Party Bid | Drudge Retort

 

[Tennesseahawk]

He's right. There is a huge bias against third parties. And yeah, it takes a lot of money to run... especially for a third party. Third parties do not get the donations from big business. But that doesn't mean I won't support one. I refuse to waste my vote by voting for the lesser of two evils. Besides... third parties need support. They need to be a viable alternative. Maybe by the time my kids are able to vote, they will be.

 

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But even though there is greater support for his ideas, Paul said it would be too difficult to promote them as a third-party candidate this time around.
"The rules are biased" against third-party candidates, he said.


So in order to achive his goals he is willing to get into bed with the enmy.Kind of sound like he is COMPROMISING what he is willing to do in order to get what he wants.The very thing that some of his biggest supporters on here say we dont need in washington and slam the republicans for COMPROMISING with democrats.What is it you all say they do when they do that CAVEING.Thank GOD this man has no chance of getting on the ticket.

Now I know I will be told im wrong but no matter how you spin it by running as a republican When he says there is so much wrong with the republican party shows me he is the same as all of them.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

No. The fact that there are only two parties means you sometimes have to sleep with the enemy. Perfect reason there needs to be another, maybe two more parties.

Here's what I think. The Republican party used to be the party of the Constitution. They were very conservative. Then Republicans started turning liberal, when they saw that the American people wanted candy from their gubmint. Now, the conservatives are in competition with not only RINOs, but also neo-cons. It's not Ron Paul's place to run on a third party ticket... but rather take the party back for the conservatives, and send the RINOs and neo-cons off to make their own party.

 

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So in order to achive his goals he is willing to get into bed with the enmy.Kind of sound like he is COMPROMISING what he is willing to do in order to get what he wants.The very thing that some of his biggest supporters on here say we dont need in washington and slam the republicans for COMPROMISING with democrats.What is it you all say they do when they do that CAVEING.Thank GOD this man has no chance of getting on the ticket.

Well compromising is what is being done with the tea party people - at least a number of them who can't seem to get their message across by being part of another party. This is also where Palin is sitting, she has to compromise in order to move her agenda ahead and fight the established old gaurd within the republican party who wants the Obama like candidate to be president.

We don't need republicans to compromise with democrats, they have done that since 1994 and still don't get the message. the most vocal of them have been the new congressional members who stood firm on a number of issues and most of them come form the tea party crowd. It isn't me who keeps saying the word compromise needs to be removed it is them who seem to be speaking for the people who are tired of sending the message up to congress that it all has to stop and then they ignore the message.

Now I know I will be told im wrong but no matter how you spin it by running as a republican When he says there is so much wrong with the republican party shows me he is the same as all of them.

Well they all have to be the same, that's the part many don't get - they have to be politicians. Palin and Bachmann are also like Paul, they won't make it through any primary because they are different. The difference is that Palin/Bachmann are pretty much one in the same with nearly the same message and attract their own followers (some of which are worse than Paulinistas) but more importantly would be the people to put into the party itself to fix it, while Paul is one who has the idea how to fix some of the problems with the country.

No matter how you want to look at the republicans, they are still the same as the democrats but with a different mascot.