Gays can now marry..
- Thread starter Ragman
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If the clerk is refusing to issue marriage licenses to all couples, where is the discrimination? The ACLU will almost certainly bring legal action, it's what they do. This will be played out in court rooms and voting booths in many places for years to come. It is unlikely a County Clerk in Kentucky would be convicted by a jury of his or her peers for objecting to issue licenses on religious liberty grounds. It is more likely an activist judge will muck things up, though. In conservative states, liberal office seekers will now face a huge hurdle because of public outcry against homosexual marriage. Resistance will come in many forms as homosexual marriage will not be seen as legitimate by large segments of the population. The five liberal SCOTUS justices did the LGBT community no favor.
l am sure the clerk and the county will both be named in a law suit. I am sure many others will follow.
Interesting comments. Pretty insightful.
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I could be wrong, but I think it's your view that is colored by your beliefs. Even in conservative states, the citizens have come to approve of gays getting married. The "large segment" [there's really just one: the religious beliefs defenders] isn't as large as you think, and it's getting smaller by the day. The same response was prompted when integration and interracial marriage were made law, and how did that work out?
How come they are only "activist" judges when you don't agree with them?
And speaking of religious beliefs, is it ok for doctors, nurses, & firefighters to withhold their services to people who are gay? Who is permitted to bring their beliefs to work, and who isn't?
Cheri, you will find it is not only people holding religious views against homosexuality, but nonreligious people who refuse to legitimize unnatural acts with a stamp of approval. One need not be religious to distinguish between normal and abnormal or natural and unnatural. Homosexual unions can never form real marriages in the same sense that Bruce Jenner is not really a woman or that Rachel Dolezal can never really be black. Moreover, one must marvel how radical leftists rejoice in their world of make-believe where pretending is equal to reality.
No, as long as they don't have to make a cake for their wedding.
Discrimination comes into play when the state continues to recognize religious marriages, and gives them state benefits. Gays will say they want to be married and have the same legal benefits, but they don't want to have a religious ceremony, and now we have states requiring compelled religious expression, which is a little bit unconstitutional.
Throw federal marriage benefits in to of that and you'll have the federal government, just like they did with Obamacare, take over marriage.
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On that I absolutely agree. I don't think the KY clerks will hold out more than a few days at most. The ones who do well lose bad. All of the county clerks are in constant communication with each other and they've been discussing this for a long time. They all know the situational outcomes. (a good friend of mine is the county clerk in my county).
But there roll be a societal backlash to this that will negatively affect the LBGT folks. Every time something is forced onto people, there is a backlash. Just look at the results of forced integration, which neither blacks nor whites in large numbers wanted. Instead of living in peaceful harmony, we have a seething racial animosity from both sides that just won't go away. The same will happen between straights and gays.
Windsor
Veteran Expediter
If the government shouldn't be involved then why do you need a license from the court for it to be legal? The government has been involved in marriage for a very long time...right?
Windsor
Veteran Expediter
Wow!
That's what I'm here for.
Windsor
Veteran Expediter
Oh is it now?That's what I'm here for.
Because it's another tax they came up with a very long time ago.
Yes, it's very important that people be wowed from time to time.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
Correct. My point is that they shouldn't be involved in granting permission for adults to pair up or in the middle of a religious institution. If we take the word marriage away from the government and the power for them to deny people the right to become a family unit then everyone wins.
