Gastric Bypass a possible cure for diabetes?

ts675

Seasoned Expediter
Greg is spot on with surgery being a tool. It's not a quick fix and there are many problems and serious side effects of having gastric banding, sleeve, or bypass. Type II diabetes is reversible. I've been reading a lot of information regarding a nutrient dense diet and there are many, many examples of people reversing diabetes, high blood pressure, and other chronic health issues. Here are some links- it's hard work, but better than getting sicker or risking surgery.

Diabetes | Glucose Levels | Natural Cure | Prevent and Control with Nutrition | Dr Fuhrman.com

Success Stories | Weight Loss and Disease Reversal Testimonials | Dr Fuhrman.com

Do you have personal knowledge of this Dr's plan? The last thing i want to do is spend money on another "cure" book to find the only thing it cured is having a decent bank balance
 

LisaLouHoo

Expert Expediter
I have a relative who went through the gbp. Blood pressure returned to normal, cholesterol normal, but not the diabetes, still an issue. Turns out his diabetes is genetic, so if he weighed 60 lbs he would more than likely still be diabetic. Or not, 'cos he would probably be dead. Good news is the other health issues have disappeared. Bad news is he us going to have to fight the same DNA battle the rest of us in the family are.

So the question is: does diabetes run in your family? If so, is it independent of weight?
"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Do you have personal knowledge of this Dr's plan? The last thing i want to do is spend money on another "cure" book to find the only thing it cured is having a decent bank balance

There is no need to buy any book.

Start with eating at the same time every day, but eat healthy and not large portions; for breakfast don't eat garbage cereal or pop tarts or anything along the lines of sugary bready things.

eat fresh fruits and veggies if possible but any will be good.

Have a high protein/low fat diet with a very small amount of carbs, if you have to have bread get pumpernickle. (pretty much the atkins type of diet) oh and eat fish at least twice a week - preferable a oily fish like salmon.

Don't eat processed meats, like that cheap lunch meat.

exercising by walking or riding a bike then try something like (don't laugh) yoga or tai chi on a regular basis.

drink water, sometimes fruit drinks but no soda - even diet crap isn't good for you regardless what any "experts" say.

Take vitamins.

There you go, no need to buy a book.
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
There is no need to buy any book.

Start with eating at the same time every day, but eat healthy and not large portions; for breakfast don't eat garbage cereal or pop tarts or anything along the lines of sugary bready things.

eat fresh fruits and veggies if possible but any will be good.

Have a high protein/low fat diet with a very small amount of carbs, if you have to have bread get pumpernickle. (pretty much the atkins type of diet) oh and eat fish at least twice a week - preferable a oily fish like salmon.

Don't eat processed meats, like that cheap lunch meat.

exercising by walking or riding a bike then try something like (don't laugh) yoga or tai chi on a regular basis.

drink water, sometimes fruit drinks but no soda - even diet crap isn't good for you regardless what any "experts" say.

Take vitamins.

There you go, no need to buy a book.

Go to the library and borrow the book. Also, the Atkins diet is online and you can get most of the info you need from the website, the book is just extra. What Greg said :D
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
I believe in the Atkins diet and the new Atkins diet
I believe it is the most sustainable diet out there.
Most people believe it is the all you can eat bacon and meat diet, but that is simply not true!!!
What I do is stick to it through the week and then on weekend those are my blow days where I have pasta, desserts etc.
I don't go overboard, but I order what I want!!!
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
The thing is everyone's body reacts differently and processes the intake differently....what is good for one maybe different on another....the book is just making someone rich...

the information is out there all FREE....trail and error....learn what your body needs and doesn't need and adjust accordingly...

Gregs advice is sound....keep it simple...
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
The Atkins Diet is about eating healthy, natural foods. Basically, eat caveman food, not invented foods. Stay away from stuff in cellophane packaging and steer more towards God's packaging.

My problem is that I tend to eat one meal a day, which is the surest road to obesity regardless of portion size. Metabolism slows to a crawl, which is what Atkins tries to reverse.
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
The Atkins Diet is about eating healthy, natural foods. Basically, eat caveman food, not invented foods. Stay away from stuff in cellophane packaging and steer more towards God's packaging.

My problem is that I tend to eat one meal a day, which is the surest road to obesity regardless of portion size. Metabolism slows to a crawl, which is what Atkins tries to reverse.

Yeah, what do they say...stay along the walls of the store and skip the center aisles and you'll be healthier
I still struggle with eating breakfast, I have never been a breakfast eater. So lately I been drinking those Atkins shakes, so at least I have some nutrition. I switched from Carnation instant breakfast because the carnation is loaded with sugar and the Atkins is not
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Atkins is a low carb diet, the Paleolithic diet is the caveman diet and is a bit different.

Atkins allows the use of supplements and substitutions while going through a couple different stages with emphasis on ketosis. The introduction phase being the most important - they sometimes call it ketogenic phase - to change the metabolics of your body from burning carbs to burning fat. It also has some restrictions on the portions and fat intake but not much.

The paleolithic diet has no processed foods in it and does not have beans, peanuts, processed oil, dairy products (yes cheese too), grains, salt and sugar. It depends on wild or grass fed meats and fish as a protein source. The emphasis is on fresh products and lean small portions.
 

jansiemoo

Seasoned Expediter
There is no need to buy any book.

Start with eating at the same time every day, but eat healthy and not large portions; for breakfast don't eat garbage cereal or pop tarts or anything along the lines of sugary bready things.

eat fresh fruits and veggies if possible but any will be good.

Have a high protein/low fat diet with a very small amount of carbs, if you have to have bread get pumpernickle. (pretty much the atkins type of diet) oh and eat fish at least twice a week - preferable a oily fish like salmon.

Don't eat processed meats, like that cheap lunch meat.

exercising by walking or riding a bike then try something like (don't laugh) yoga or tai chi on a regular basis.

drink water, sometimes fruit drinks but no soda - even diet crap isn't good for you regardless what any "experts" say.

Take vitamins.

There you go, no need to buy a book.

You've got it mostly right, Greg. It's a ten dollar book, and yes, you can get it from the library... The website tells you almost everything you need to know, including some recipies. I belong to a group on sparkpeople dot com and get tons of help and support there, it's all free. The difference between what Greg says and what the book says is minimal- the point is to eat the most nutrient dense foods and leave out the junk. He tells you (on the website, too) how Atkins can kill you, however. The book stems from research of over two thousand published medical studies to back it all up.

-Eat as many veggies as you can. Especially greens.
-Eat lots of fruit, don't drink sugary, nutrient deficient fruit juice.
-Eat at least a cup of beans everyday.
-Eat a little nuts and seeds for your omegas.
-Treat everything else as a treat or use sparingly.

I don't feel hypoglycemic anymore, I've lost 15 lbs, and I have more energy. I was able to donate blood at MATS (never could before-always anemic), and I'm getting more absorbable calcium and more than enough protein. Most people freak out because they think it's a vegetarian lifestyle, but you can still eat meat, just don't base your diet on it. That's about it, borrow the book and read online if you want to know the reasons and science behind it- or just eat a healthier diet by eating more veggies. You already know that ;)
Oh yeah- nothin' to buy, either. Only supplements are D and B-12.
 
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LisaLouHoo

Expert Expediter
The thing is everyone's body reacts differently and processes the intake differently....what is good for one maybe different on another

You aren't kidding...certain foods affect my sugar that do not affect my cousin...then other foods affect another cousin and not me. I maintain with 5 snacks a day, others in my family get by with 3 meals a day. I can tell when my sugar is up without testing because I crave sweet...my body is trying desperately to make itself produce more insulin that way, but it will fail miserably.

Every diabetic case is individual, no doubt.

"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008
 

ts675

Seasoned Expediter
Thanks for all the input. I really struggle with my diet and I know that is a will power issue. Oh yeah BTW Ovm I know it was me you were calling stupid..lol

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
It's great it works for you. I would be happy to dump a few pounds but it is hard as you know.

I sat in on a couple of Fuhrman's seminars and he was clear what is needed and what isn't and his explanation is very good. I have his books and other material but the one thing I don't agree on is his take on some of the atkins stuff because my wife was on the diet and it worked well without the perceived fat intake that everyone thinks has to happen with it.

With that said, Fuhrman has some great points about diet in the way he explains it. The only real issue I have with his promoting of the right Juicer (Omega juicer or a masticating juicer) because he is sooo right on getting the right one from the start, he should do more to explain why.
 

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
There is no need to buy any book.

Start with eating at the same time every day, but eat healthy and not large portions; for breakfast don't eat garbage cereal or pop tarts or anything along the lines of sugary bready things.

eat fresh fruits and veggies if possible but any will be good.

Have a high protein/low fat diet with a very small amount of carbs, if you have to have bread get pumpernickle. (pretty much the atkins type of diet) oh and eat fish at least twice a week - preferable a oily fish like salmon.

Don't eat processed meats, like that cheap lunch meat.

exercising by walking or riding a bike then try something like (don't laugh) yoga or tai chi on a regular basis.

drink water, sometimes fruit drinks but no soda - even diet crap isn't good for you regardless what any "experts" say.

Take vitamins.

There you go, no need to buy a book.

It's great it works for you. I would be happy to dump a few pounds but it is hard as you know.

I sat in on a couple of Fuhrman's seminars and he was clear what is needed and what isn't and his explanation is very good. I have his books and other material but the one thing I don't agree on is his take on some of the atkins stuff because my wife was on the diet and it worked well without the perceived fat intake that everyone thinks has to happen with it.

With that said, Fuhrman has some great points about diet in the way he explains it. The only real issue I have with his promoting of the right Juicer (Omega juicer or a masticating juicer) because he is sooo right on getting the right one from the start, he should do more to explain why.

And the most important thing is, Stay away from sacks of Bates Burgers.
:p
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
Thanks for all the input. I really struggle with my diet and I know that is a will power issue. Oh yeah BTW Ovm I know it was me you were calling stupid..lol

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I found when I cut out sugar and carbs, that I didn't crave sugar and carbs, once I introduced some back in the craving returned, it's a vicious cycle you crave more, so you eat more and then you crave more:eek:
 
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