Gas rationing in Jersey starts tomorrow in 12 northern counties...(USA Today)

xmudman

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9:07PM EDT November 2. 2012 - MONTCLAIR, N.J. -- For many in New Jersey in search of gasoline, the mantra has become sit, wait and hope.

Beginning noon Saturday, that exercise in patience will become even more confounding and complicated. Gov. Chris Christie late Friday ordered gas rationing in 12 counties, declaring that the current shortage could endanger public health, safety and welfare.

The affected counties are Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Hunterdon, Middlesex, Morris, Monmouth, Passaic, Somerset, Sussex, Union and Warren.

Motorists in these counties whose license plates end in even numbers can fill up only on even-numbered days. Odd-numbered plates -- which includes those not ending in number -- can fill up only on odd days.

The "state of energy emergency" order states that stations "will be required to only sell motor fuel for use in a passenger automobile bearing license plates." That indicates dealers could refuse to sell to pedestrians seeking to fill containers.

Christie said violators "will be prosecuted to the fullest extent permitted."

The rationing will stay in effect until he declares emergency over.

Across North Jersey on Friday, some stations had gas, but no power to get it from underground and through the pump. Cones blocked access. Police stood guard.

But still people bundled themselves in coats and lined up in the cold, waiting for gas to fill their home generators. And motorists lined up and park. The line at one station was so long on Thursday night, it backed up onto the off ramp of the 280 freeway in West Orange.

Four days after Hurricane Sandy, people said they have little choice.

"I'll push my car if I have to,'' said Anthony Rix, whose car, its gas gage on 'E,' sat sixth in line at a gas station that had no power. "I work for the Board of Ed, and it's closed. So I don't have anything else to do and I'm close to home. So I'll just sit and wait." Rix had arrived at the Delta gas station on the border of Montclair and West Orange about 8:30 a.m. Friday. He'd also come by two or three times the day before, hoping that the power would be on and the gas flowing. It wasn't then. And it wasn't now.

The whole scenario was becoming hard to believe. "You're not used to this,'' he said. "We have snow storms but everything is still normal. . . People are not used to this, and we're not prepared."

His sister had picked up free water and ice that was being handed out by a local utility. The family was also making frequent trips to the supermarket, buying groceries day by day since their power had been out all week and there was no way to keep food cold.

"You think about pictures of Katrina, and people waiting in line for ice and water,'' Rix said. "You wouldn't think it would happen here.''

Bennie Osborne was also just about out of gas. He lives near the station and parked his car there over night.

"My car is low,'' he said about his gas tank. "I'm scared to go anywhere. I left my car up here all night with the keys, so they could put gas in it'' if power was restored.

Osborne also had other problems. His wife, Lucille, is a diabetic. They haven't had power since Monday night and have heard the electricity might not come back on until next Thursday.

In the meantime, they're keeping her insulin in a cooler. They're turning on their gas stove for heat during the day. And at night, to keep warm, "we just get in the bed.''

Osborne said the situation was bringing back long ago memories -- of the 1970s when gas was rationed and of when he was a boy growing up in Virginia.

"I told my grandkids this was the way it was down south,'' said Osborne, who does not want to move his wife to a shelter and says his insurance company is unwilling to put them up in a hotel. "We would sit around the wood stove.''

Jean Tanis, owner of the Delta station, said that he has gas, but without power, it is of no use.

The motor that pushes oil stored underground to the pumps needs electricity to run, Tanis said. Then the pumps have motors of their own, necessary to funnel the fuel into cars and calibrate it so that customers get the amount that they are paying for. And if you have a credit card you'd also be out of luck, since electricity is necessary to process the payments.

With cars waiting in a line that stretched down the block, Tanis' brother, Daniel, said he was trying to tell customers to tap into Twitter to locate where else they might find fuel and the length of the lines at those stations.. "They won't listen,'' he said. "This is hope. It can be three days. It can be until Monday'' before his brother's station can operate.

Jean Tanis said that he needed the lights to come on and not just to make money. He too was out of gas.

"I've got to siphon gas from cars in the back to fill my truck to go and tow cars,'' Tanis said. People were calling for his tow service because their cars had run out of gas.

"If you don't have electricity,'' Tanis said, "everything is dead.''



FYI: This affects the Pilot and the TA in Bloomsbury; that's in Hunterdon County. The Petro in Bordentown is in Burlington County, so that bullet is dodged...
 
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BigCat

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I feel bad for these people but they brought it on themselves by not prepping. Sad to say my sympathy only goes so far, with exceptions to the ones that lost their lives because they didn't have the means to evacuate.
 

xmudman

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Articles in Google News don't discuss whether diesel is also being rationed.

Rationing is odd-even, so odds like me could fuel up on the 3rd, 5th, etc. Evens like my lovely bride would fill up on the opposite days. If your plate ends in a letter, you're an odd....
 

ATeam

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I feel bad for these people but they brought it on themselves by not prepping. Sad to say my sympathy only goes so far, with exceptions to the ones that lost their lives because they didn't have the means to evacuate.

Part of me agrees with you when you talk about prepping. But there is a compassionate part too that wishes these people the best as the struggle through their circumstances.

As expediters, we take prepping for granted. It's something we do every time we hit the road and while we are out. We know we can run into a storm at any time that may ground us, and that we can lose our mobility far from home. Heck, just a few days waiting for freight would be a crisis for people who are not oriented to our lifestyle.

Prepping is is a well practiced skill that is so much a part of what we do that we don't even think about it. It is second nature. And let's not forget that we have our trucks which provide mobility, shelter and a supply of food and water. There are millions of people who would love to have an expediter truck parked in their driveway right now.

Most people don't live and work like expediters do so it is a challenge to even imagine going without mobility, electricity, food, water and shelter for a significant amount of time, let alone prepare for it.

Yes, people should have prepared to have their lives disrupted. But let's not forget that comes far easier to expediters than it does to families with children, the elderly, and people whose lives revolve a house and a 9-5 job.
 
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Rocketman

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I guess I don't understand it completely. I can't understand why there is a localized shortage that would last more than a day or two. They could have tankers lined up for several city blocks in 24-36 hours, could they not? I understand that many stations may be without power but that seems like a fixable problem also. By now, there has been plenty of time to bring in generators and mobilize fleets of fuel tankers.

It just seems like a management/coordination problem to me. Maybe the idiots in charge are too busy planning the marathon?
 

BigCat

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I guess I don't understand it completely. I can't understand why there is a localized shortage that would last more than a day or two. They could have tankers lined up for several city blocks in 24-36 hours, could they not? I understand that many stations may be without power but that seems like a fixable problem also. By now, there has been plenty of time to bring in generators and mobilize fleets of fuel tankers.

It just seems like a management/coordination problem to me. Maybe the idiots in charge are too busy planning the marathon?

Marathon cancelled.
 

ATeam

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I guess I don't understand it completely. I can't understand why there is a localized shortage that would last more than a day or two. They could have tankers lined up for several city blocks in 24-36 hours, could they not? I understand that many stations may be without power but that seems like a fixable problem also. By now, there has been plenty of time to bring in generators and mobilize fleets of fuel tankers.

Military to Deliver Fuel to Storm-Ravaged Region
 

asjssl

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Do the people have to pay for the gas?....just curious... was wondering how that worked...never see. Military truck with a card swipe....

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OntarioVanMan

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I guess I don't understand it completely. I can't understand why there is a localized shortage that would last more than a day or two. They could have tankers lined up for several city blocks in 24-36 hours, could they not? I understand that many stations may be without power but that seems like a fixable problem also. By now, there has been plenty of time to bring in generators and mobilize fleets of fuel tankers.

It just seems like a management/coordination problem to me. Maybe the idiots in charge are too busy planning the marathon?

I think what he is sayong is what i was thinking...of the 1,000's of portable generators the military has around the country and they have some huge units as well.....could they not hook them up to some of these station.... easy to do.....
 

xmudman

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Do the people have to pay for the gas?....just curious... was wondering how that worked...never see. Military truck with a card swipe....

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Look for the MP with the smartphone. He has a reader on it :)
 

Rocketman

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I think what he is sayong is what i was thinking...of the 1,000's of portable generators the military has around the country and they have some huge units as well.....could they not hook them up to some of these station.... easy to do.....
It is likely that they just didn't see this particular problem arising. Maybe they were focused on other things that they thought would be the problem? Maybe they underestimated the devastation initially? Maybe the resources and manpower consumed planning the marathon (between the time some idiot announced that it would not be cancelled and the time that the same idiot cancelled it) could have been better allocated?

Now that they realize that this is one of the major problems, I'm sure they will address it soon. As mentioned, the resources are there to expedite the process.

It does make me think though, that either they didn't learn as much as we thought from Katrina and other disasters.... or they have a very bad memory.
 

OntarioVanMan

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weird..a commentary just mentioned this very subject....Hess has gotten 122 stations in the region up and running....now it is a weekend and a lot don't go to work....should help as well....
 

ATeam

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I think what he is sayong is what i was thinking...of the 1,000's of portable generators the military has around the country and they have some huge units as well.....could they not hook them up to some of these station.... easy to do.....

When you're not on the ground in the middle of it, it's easy to oversimplify and armchair supervise these things.

Say the military magically received immediate authorization to deploy their equipment in a way that is not part of their mission, and say they were able to move 500 generators to 500 gas stations in two days time. It would require electricians and supplies to wire them into the gas stations and East Coast electricians are already busy. Sure, with money, you could bring an army of electricians into the area, and with magic you could authorize them to work without regard to local electrical codes that they would not be familiar with, but when power is expected to be restored in just a few days, would it be worth the trouble? These outside recources would be deployed just in time for people to see the lights come back on by local efforts.

There is not a fuel shortage. There is a shortage of power to pump it. The announcement above about military deployments has more to do with killing the belief that a fuel shortage exists and with it the possibility of civil disorder. Some election day politics may be in play as well. Most of the fuel that will be brought into the area will be surplus once the power comes back on.
 

OntarioVanMan

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You are quite correct Sir....about the armchair quarterbacking....this morning FoxTV has really turned up the quarterbacking....they are getting beyond silly at that network....
 

Deville

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I feel bad for these people but they brought it on themselves by not prepping. Sad to say my sympathy only goes so far, with exceptions to the ones that lost their lives because they didn't have the means to evacuate.

LOt's of people did prep, but when you are running around trying to aid others or are still expected to get to work no matter what the Gas/diesel will run out at some point.
 

cheri1122

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I read about FEMA sending generators, and in Long Island, there were 7 deployed. One was for the wastewater treatment plant, and the remaining six went to the railroads. Huh?! What am I missing? How do railroads improve emergency power issues?
 

tknight

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A really good source of generated electric are the diesel generators on locomotive engines these things are huge and can be easily tapped for emergency power!
 

asjssl

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I feel bad for these people but they brought it on themselves by not prepping. Sad to say my sympathy only goes so far, with exceptions to the ones that lost their lives because they didn't have the means to evacuate.

What if you might have been the most prepped person on the east coast...but then to have it all blown/washed away...then what??

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BigCat

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What if you might have been the most prepped person on the east coast...but then to have it all blown/washed away...then what??

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What if? I'm talking about the morons that drive these new big cars and have the money to leave. They didn't believe it was going to happen so they stayed and didn't fuel up before the storm. Now they are sitting in lines for hours trying to do what they could have done days before. Many people interviewed said they didn't prepare because they didn't believe they would get a hurricane in ny/nj.
 

asjssl

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Originally Posted by asjssl<br />
What if you might have been the most prepped person on the east coast...but then to have it all blown/washed away...then what??<br />
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What if? I'm talking about the morons that drive these new big cars and have the money to leave. They didn't believe it was going to happen so they stayed and didn't fuel up before the storm. Now they are sitting in lines for hours trying to do what they could have done days before. Many people interviewed said they didn't prepare because they didn't believe they would get a hurricane in ny/nj.

Sorry..misunderstood ..

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