Gas Cost vs Rates

BobWolf

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Thats my point get a rate you deserve, you shouldnt need to run a milion miles a year or loose your shirt to make it in trucking.

Try to work smarter. Not just harder.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Thats my point get a rate you deserve, you shouldnt need to run a milion miles a year or loose your shirt to make it in trucking.

I hope your use of deserve was just a poor choice of words because you don't deserve any more than the market is willing to pay. Trucking has always been about more miles, more hours, more weight and higher speed limits and low pay; with the exception of temporary niche markets, like expediting.

I use the term temporary niche market, because that's exactly what these markets are, temporary, until the word gets out and the market becomes saturated. For many years it may have been produce from the west coast to the midwest and east, meat from the midwest to the east coast, oilfield supplies in Texas and Louisiana, short term FEMA loads to disaster areas, recently the wind energy market, specifically the O.D. part of that market, and yes, expedited freight. Once the word gets out that this particular niche market is paying high rates, eventually the market is over run with independents and large carriers and then the rates tank. At least this has been my experience in the wonderful world of trucking.

Try to work smarter. Not just harder.
If you really want to work smarter, and be recognized as being smarter, get in on the ground floor of the next niche market.
 
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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I hope your use of deserve was just a poor choice of words because you don't deserve any more than the market is willing to pay. Trucking has always been about more miles, more hours, more weight and higher speed limits and low pay; with the exception of temporary niche markets, like expediting.

I use the term temporary niche market, because that's exactly what these markets are, temporary, until the word gets out and the market becomes saturated. For many years it may have been produce from the west coast to the midwest and east, meat from the midwest to the east coast, oilfield supplies in Texas and Louisiana, short term FEMA loads to disaster areas, recently the wind energy market, specifically the O.D. part of that market, and yes, expedited freight. Once the word gets out that this particular niche market is paying high rates, eventually the market is over run with independents and large carriers and then the rates tank. At least this has been my experience in the wonderful world of trucking.

If you really want to work smarter, and be recognized as being smarter, get in on the ground floor of the next niche market.

A Prevost Motorcoach with the back 16 ft dedicated to cargo capacity, no signage, no cdl, logging or scaling...nothing that sayes "i am hauling freight"...believe me, i have looked into it...:D
 

blizzard2014

Veteran Expediter
Driver
A Prevost Motorcoach with the back 16 ft dedicated to cargo capacity, no signage, no cdl, logging or scaling...nothing that sayes "i am hauling freight"...believe me, i have looked into it...:D

You wanna push those boundaries don't you? lol. That is a pretty good idea though . You ever notice how the tour buses and greyhound busses are always hauling a@@ and never get pulled over by the cops!
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I believe you Dennis! I was thinking more of the next new niche market. In the past few years, from what I've seen, O.D. wind farm stuff and North Dakota oilfield stuff is all the rage and high paying. I have noticed that some of the bigger carriers like Anderson Trucking Service (ATS) are pulling O.D. wind generator freight. The investment in specialized trailers, permits and escort service should mean higher rates and higher profits. But when more carriers enter a niche market, eventually the rates decrease along with the higher profits. Larger carriers can run cheaper. For the most part, this is free enterprise in action, like it or not.
 

turritrans

Expert Expediter
Moot said:
Now I'm lost.

People paying the cost look at the bottom line, how it costs to ship the product.

If you raising your prices due to fsc and a competitor isn't, sometimes you will loose the business.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
People paying the cost look at the bottom line, how it costs to ship the product.

If you raising your prices due to fsc and a competitor isn't, sometimes you will loose the business.
I would suggest then rather then try and out bid each other...you just let the freight sit on the dock and don't insult us with lowball numbers...We O/O's have a bottomline line as well....
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I would suggest then rather then try and out bid each other...you just let the freight sit on the dock and don't insult us with lowball numbers...We O/O's have a bottomline line as well....

What OVM said....I mean as a "vacation expediter" i can run for gas money, but i won't....:D
 
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