Game On....

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Looks like instead of doing the Presidential thing and trying to defuse this situation, the White House has inflamed it by sending in the union thugs. Look for more trouble as this month wears on and I honestly believe that someone will be hurt if not worse before it's over.

This is an early STORY, I'm sure we'll hear more tomorrow.
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
No Wonder Marcy Kaptur Isn't Having any Town Hall meetings in Toledo, She's Scared That the People will see Right Through Her! Well It's Too Late Marcy, We are NOT Blind and We Sure don't need any X-Ray Vision to see through You! You are On Borrowed time Because 2010 will Get Rid of your Sorry Butt!!!! :mad:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Marcy sold out for a bunch of cash on cap 7 tax, she will do the same again...her time is up...she might not have a open meeting, but she goes to little flower church on dorr st in toledo for 5 pm mass on sat when she is in town...might need to gather a bunch there to meet her as she talks with the Senior citizens after mass...

And yes diva, barry is just fanning the flames, as is the dead fish rahm....chicago politics has become the norm at the WH...Daley would be proud.........
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
Marcy sold out for a bunch of cash on cap 7 tax, she will do the same again...her time is up...she might not have a open meeting, but she goes to little flower church on dorr st in toledo for 5 pm mass on sat when she is in town...might need to gather a bunch there to meet her as she talks with the Senior citizens after mass...

And yes diva, barry is just fanning the flames, as is the dead fish rahm....chicago politics has become the norm at the WH...Daley would be proud.........

That's Not a Bad Idea at all, But Unfortunatley I won't be in town This Saturday But I Can't Guarantee I won't be in town Next Saturday, I'm Gonna Try My Best to get there One of these Saturdays when she's there..
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
i don't know if ill be in town either, but i have spoken with a few friends that live in town and they see this as a way of getting her attention also...

Diva here is a report on the AFL-CIO:

Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls
The nation's largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess.

In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to the labor community. The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums as ground zero of the health care debate. It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount "Brooks Brothers" protest to rally its members to the administration's side.

"The principal battleground in the campaign will be town hall meetings and other gatherings with members of Congress in their home districts," reads the memo. "We want your help to organize major union participation to counter the right-wing "Tea-Party Patriots" who will try to disrupt those meetings, as they've been trying to do to meetings for the last month. ...

Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls

I believe barry and the marxists want confrontation. a violent one.

and when it starts , it's going to get ugly fast, and it could end up with some badddd things going on in the streets.



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dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
i don't know if ill be in town either, but i have spoken with a few friends that live in town and they see this as a way of getting her attention also...

Diva here is a report on the AFL-CIO:

Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls


I believe barry and the marxists want confrontation. a violent one.

and when it starts , it's going to get ugly fast, and it could end up with some badddd things going on in the streets.



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He'd have his excuse for Marshall Law then, wouldn't he....
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
While I haven't followed Marcy Kaptur's political career closely, and while generally, what I did follow, led me to believe that she was a bit of a leftwing loon, I do have to say that I repeatedly saw her come out and speak against the Wall Street financial bailout.

Whether she ultimately voted for or against it I can't say, but she does at least deserve some small amount of credit for having taken the position initially, when many others in Congress were licking their chops at the prospect of spending yet more of our money and plunging us further in debt.
 

hdxpedx

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Fleet Owner
PICK YOUR BATTLE GAME PLAN- GUTTER to the LEFT or TRENCHES to the RIGHT! obumer want's a extra police type army? CRYSTAL BALL- I see thugs like CHAVEZ's/obumer's SEIU!!

AND AARP-- the liberal senior brainwashing special interest group has finally been EXPOSED to the LARGE VOTING BLOCK of senior citizens!! THIS SLEEPING GIANT of SENIORS have their own RALLIES and they see how the left is DEMONIZING THEM at town hall meetings!! BACK-LASH!!
 
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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
And the hits keep on coming:

http://stlouisteaparty.com/2009/08/0...han-town-hall/

Email from eye witness and attorney confirms that SEIU-logo’d thugs attacked and beat a black man for distributing Gadsen flags following a Town Hall in St. Louis County on Thursday. Race was a factor in the beating.

August 7, 2009

Dear Mr. Hennessy:
I am Kenneth Gladney’s attorney. Kenneth was attacked on the evening of August 6, 2009 at Rep. Russ Carnahan’s town hall meeting in South St. Louis County. I was at the town hall meeting as well and witnessed the events leading up to the attack of Kenneth. Kenneth was approached by an SEIU representative as Kenneth was handing out “Don’t Tread on Me” flags to other conservatives. The SEIU representative demanded to know why a black man was handing out these flags. The SEIU member used a racial slur against Kenneth, then punched him in the face. Kenneth fell to the ground. Another SEIU member yelled racial epithets at Kenneth as he kicked him in the head and back. Kenneth was also brutally attacked by one other male SEIU member and an unidentified woman. The three men were clearly SEIU members, as they were wearing T-shirts with the SEIU logo.
Kenneth was beaten badly. One assailant fled on foot; three others were arrested. Kenneth was admitted to St. John’s Mercy Medical Center emergency room, where he was treated for his numerous injuries. Kenneth was merely expressing his freedom of speech by handing out the flags. In fact, he merely asked people as they exited the town hall meeting whether they would like a flag. He in no way provoked any argument or altercation, as evidenced by the fact that three assailants were arrested.
We hope that Kenneth fully recovers from his injuries; however, he is in great pain at this time. We will be pursuing legal action at our discretion. This was a truly senseless hate crime carried out by racist union thugs. Regretfully, Representative Carnahan’s statements blaming Kenneth for being a disruptive force are wholly untrue and slanderous. We would like to think that an elected official in Representative Carnahan’s position would gather accurate information before carelessly rushing to judgment.
Kenneth supports conservative ideals, although he subscribes to no particular political party. We are calling on the SEIU, Representative Carnahan, and President Obama to condemn the racist actions of these union thugs. In the days to come, we will be investigating whether these thugs are working at the behest of Representative Carnahan and how strong their alliances to various organizations–such as ACORN–may be.
We hope the St. Louis Tea Party and tea party organizations around the country will protest Representative Carnahan’s offices and also protest SEIU offices in every major city across the U.S. These Democratic strong-arm tactics must end now.
Regards,
Attorney David B. Brown

The St. Louis Tea Party coalition joins in the call for apologies from Carnahan, SEIU, and President Obama. This criminal attack was inspired by DNC and BarackObama.com propaganda. Only Thursday morning, the White House promised “punch back twice as hard.” Clearly, the goons of SEIU decided to draw the first blood.
We believe that this attack was planned and intended to create a riot to discredit the American political resistence. Luckily, the patriots who attend tea parties and town halls did not take the bait. Mr. Gladney did not fight back. Mr. Gladney, like Crispus Attucks, suffered for the promise of freedom — the freedom his race was so long denied. We salute Kenneth Gladney. We are proud that he is on our side.
We all pray for Ken. May he recover quickly and fully from his injuries inflicted by leftist thugs in an attempt to subvert his First Amendment rights.

TELL THE SEIU THAT WE OPPOSE VIOLENCE
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
All on the orders from the WH..........

White House to Democrats: 'Punch back twice as hard'

White House to Democrats: 'Punch back twice as hard' - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

Top White House aides gave Senate Democrats a recess battle plan on Thursday, arming the lawmakers with tips for avoiding disastrous town hall meetings while showing them polling on popular aspects of the reform effort.

Senior White House adviser David Axelrod and deputy chief of staff Jim Messina told senators to focus on the insured and how they would benefit from “consumer protections" in the overhaul, such as ending the practice of denying insurance based on preexisting conditions and ensuring the continuity of coverage between jobs.

They showed video clips of the confrontational town halls that have dominated the media coverage, and told senators to do more prep work than usual for their public meetings by making sure their own supporters turn out, senators and aides said.

And they screened TV ads and reviewed the various campaigns by critics of the Democratic plan.

“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting.

...“They are just helping us understand the fringe that is trying to mess up our meetings,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Townhall in Tampa, Union Thugs at meeting, it got ugly-

UPDATE 7:13pm

Police on bullhorns are trying to break-up the crowd outside the building on 1002 E. Palm Ave.

Many in the crowd are refusing to go.


http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story...111086&catid=8



"SEIU & Castor (whose contributors are predominantly unions trial lawyers, teamsters etc] organize (pay to play) a townhall and announce it at the last minute as to reduce opposition voices.

Never the less, the word gets out at the last minute to citizen-led, unfunded grassroots organizations like 9-12 meetup group. Citizens opposed to government-run healthcare gather at the last minute to have their voices heard.

Exactly what Castor and SEIU did not want.

Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty. Hundreds of citizens outside. And yet public is not allowed in.

Castor makes speech turns it over to panel. Soon leaves.

People were prevented access inside to the meeting. Because of this apparent denial of free speech and bias -- and the seemingly blatant sham of a 'townhall' -- many began to shout, some banged windows & doors."

"I was there. It was not a "town hall meeting". It was a private event by SEIU to push the agenda and giving it great media coverage under the guise of a public meeting. When the doors to the auditorium finally opened there were about 150 people already filling the 235 seats. If it truly were a public meeting it would have been held in a larger venue. The 85 or so seats open for the public were tokens for show. The rest were filled with SEIU, ACORN, union, and Democratic Party faithful.

I was 6 people behind the cut off and never made it in. It was truly disheartning and even embarassing to have all the shouting and disruption. I would have liked to have heard what was said. I could see it was getting ugly and started moving away from the open doors just before they were closed."

"I was there... We showed up at 6 and were told by friends that Representative Castor hosted a private event before the scheduled town hall with 175 SEIU union members who were assigned seats in the front of the hall for the meeting which left space for only @ 75 more people....and individuals wearing Obama gear were ushered to the front of the line and then the doors were shut. Free speech and Democracy were reprehensibly railroaded tonight..."
 

hdxpedx

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Fleet Owner
UNBELIEVABLE! obumer's America is FIGHTING in the STREETS-American RIGHT should immediately boycott everything that produces REVENUE for john sweeny/SEIU!! CHANGE-CHANGE-CHANGE!
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
This is from another board i go to. I said earlier that i think barry is looking for confrontation, and if it is violet, so be it.. this guy also sees that:

Inside the Tampa Bay "Townhall" - looks like some Patriots got into the meeting:

YouTube - Tampa town hall meeting with Kathy Castor

Notice is the comment section on the Youtube page.

Those comments are illustrative of why the coming conflict may make the Civil war look like a picnic in comparison.

We waited too long to mitigate the amount of bloodshed all of this is going to engender.

Of course, this is what the Marxists want. They cannot call out the troops and lock it all down without a 'crisis' - and they have manufactured this one very well - and much faster than I ever thought possible.

It would do us all well to understand that the Marxists, this government tyranny and their supporting thugs view us no differently than Reno and the ATF did the Branch Davidians, and will do likewise to us, if not worse.

At least you know where to operate from, and this is vital to understand.

For the Founders, upon signing the Declaration, knew and understood they just signed their death warrants, because they knew the Crown would persecute them as rebels, terrorists and criminals.

They knew they would get no reprieve or justice from the Authorities.

They knew they were at war against a tyranny.

They knew if caught, they would be tried with no justice and executed.

They knew they would be hunted and arrested or killed on sight.


As long as we count the cost and know that our death warrants have been signed by resisting this tyranny - we stand in the shadow of our Founders and we carry the cause of righteousness and liberty in our bosom.
 
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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Six people, including P-D reporter, arrested at Carnahan meeting

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne.../0470FEB3219207458625760B001142AC?OpenDocumen

Protesters came out in force to voice their opinions either for or against President Barack Obama's policies on health care reform at Bernard Middle School. (Dawn Majors/P-D)By Leah Thorsen
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
08/06/2009

UPDATED, 8 a.m. Friday

MEHVILLE -- St. Louis County police arrested six people, including a Post-Dispatch reporter, during a demonstration Thursday evening outside a forum on aging called by U.S. Rep. Russ Carnahan, D-St. Louis.

Two of the people were arrested on suspicion of assault, one of resisting arrest and three on suspicion of committing peace disturbances, police say.

The forum drew an overflow crowd of several hundred to Bernard Middle School gym in south St. Louis County. Dozens of people, many carrying signs about the health care debate, were kept out because of the turnout. The back and forth between factions within the crowd created a carnival-like atmosphere inside and out between members of the movement opposing President Barack Obama's policies and groups who came to show support for the president's proposals.

The six people were arrested after confrontations outside the school, said county police spokesman Rick Eckhard. Carnahan was gone when the ruckus started, Eckhard said.

Post-Dispatch reporter Jake Wagman, who was covering the event and shooting video for stltoday.com, was arrested for interference.

Post-Dispatch photographer Dawn Majors was at the scene and photographed the arrests. She said she heard Wagman yell her name and say that he was being taken into custody.

In a prepared statement released Friday morning, Carnahan said: "Sadly we've seen stories about disrupters around the country, and we have a handful of them here in Missouri. Instead of participating in a civil debate, they have mobilized with special interests in Washington who have lined their pockets by overcharging Americans for a broken health care system."

"I will continue to engage with constituents that I am honored to represent in Congress and fight to achieve long-overdue health insurance reform in our country," Carnahan said.

One of those arrested was Brian Matthews, 34, of St. Louis city, who works as a rehabber and previously worked on a campaign for a Texas statehouse candidate.

"I feel like it was a bull rush," Matthews said. "It all came from behind."

Matthews said he had been inside the forum because he is in favor of a public option for health care. He had attended with a friend, a 51-year-old woman. After it was over, they were walking outside and had a run-in with a man who was trying to videotape them. Matthews said that man from from the GOP. They reported the man to a police officer, who seemed uninterested, Matthews said.

As the pair walked to their car, they saw a man on the street who looks like he had been assaulted. Police surrounded him.

"My friend took pictures," Matthews said, "and an officer told her not to. She contested that."

Matthews said he and his friend walked away, arm in arm. The officer followed them, and Matthews friend exchanged words with the officer, Matthews said.

"I can't tell you how many police officers charged us from behind," Matthews said. "I was pushed to the ground by one. I was pushed into the back of somebody who was walking away."

Matthews said he was told he was arrested for interference. His friend was maced "after she was subdued by the police," Matthews said. She vomited on the side of the road, then later vomited more in the police car, he said.

Kenneth Gladney, 38, a conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with "Don't tread on me" printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room at St. John's Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was awaiting treatment for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack.

"It just seems there's no freedom of speech without being attacked," he said.

Members of the local Tea Party Coalition, a movement that has emerged to counter Obama's policies, had urged their members to attend Carnahan's forum, which in turn spurred Democrats to establish a strong presence.

Inside the gathering, while speakers stuck to aging issues, they were often interrupted by yells from audience members who wanted to shift the focus to health care.

"This isn't even close to civil," said Steve Belosi, 52, of Lake Saint Louis, commenting on the crowd. "The rudeness was beyond compare."

Added Joyce Flecke, 70, of south St. Louis County: "A complete waste of time."

Other recent Carnahan appearances, including one earlier this week on the Cash for Clunkers program, have drawn similar protests. And last week, hundreds turned out to voice their opinions on reforms to the staff of Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.

Carnahan issued a statement after the Thursday night's forum, saying: "Sadly we've seen stories about disrupters around the country, and we have a handful of them here in Missouri. Instead of participating in a civil debate, they have mobilized with special interests in Washington who have lined their pockets by overcharging Americans for a broken health care system."

The St. Louis protests are part of the increasingly vocal debate across the country.

In the week since the House began its break, several town hall-style meetings have been disrupted by demonstrators. These episodes have drawn widespread media attention, and Republicans have seized on them as well as polls showing a decline in support for Obama and his agenda as evidence that public support is lacking for his signature legislation.

Energized conservative activists have vowed to fight Obama's policies.

The president wants to use the government's clout to subsidize coverage for millions now uninsured, regulate insurance companies more closely and attempt to slow the rise of medical costs.

The protesters insist they're part of a ground-level movement that represents real frustration with government spending and growth.

In Denver on Thursday, about 250 people on all sides of the health care debate waved signs and shouted slogans in front of the Stout Street Clinic as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi toured the medical clinic for the homeless.

"Just say no!" yelled those demonstrating against health care reform.

"Yes we can!" shouted back those who support Obama's plan.

The Republican Party says it's not behind the protests, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada scoffed at the notion that the protesters reflect grass-roots sentiment. He held up a piece of artificial turf during a session with reporters.

"These are nothing more than destructive efforts to interrupt a debate that we should have, and are having," Reid said. "They are doing this because they don't have any better ideas. They have no interest in letting the negotiators, even though few in number, negotiate. It's really simple: They're taking their cues from talk show hosts, Internet rumor-mongerers ... and insurance rackets."

Republicans answered.

"All the polls show there is serious concern, if not outright opposition, to the president's health care plan," said Antonia Ferrier, spokeswoman for House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio. "Democrats are ginning up this cynical shell game."
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
The Left trives and enjoys violence. Look at Hitler, Stalin, Moa, Castro etc. Mass Murderers all. Obama agrees with them. He hangs around with people who SUPPORTED Soviet Russa. Voices have ONE remaining chance, 2010. IF we can get out enough vote to overcome the corruption that WILL be the hallmark of the election. IF NOT, fighting back is all that is left.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
The president sayes he doesn't want to hear from the people, they should be quiet, rahm the dead fish and axelrod are telling the elected reps to punch back twice as hard...the elected dems won't have meetings to hear the voices of the people now, the unions and acorn are starting to bust heads...

the voices that are speaking out now and they are being denied and being intimdated by the WH's thugs, all with the blessings of the WH....this continues and we won't make 2010 without civil violence on a large scale....
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You may be right, I was very concerned about this last year before this bafoon got elected. I was of course paranoid and a dinosour. The left NEVER changes. We ARE going to see murder squads in the US just as in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Pravda (our scum media) will even find a way to JUSTIFY them!! You can COUNT on that. I may even start sooner than I thought it was going too. I did not expect it to start until Jan 2011 after they finish consolidated they power.
 
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