Free to Fail

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
Being once where this guy is at and the attacking to knock him down.

#1 He is new to this.

#2. He probably expected since I am sure he was told success would come if one would just work.

#3. Newbee Errors on his part most likely played part in his sitting.

#4. Saw only negative remarks in offering Tips or advice. Many FECC people are quick to defend the Smurf Party. Maybee they should be more selective. Maybee not hire everyone and anyone without a DUI?

How about offering this guy advice to succeed instead of making fun of his situation, not great question asking on his part but I understand his frustration and where he is at. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.

no fan of the smurf group in Green OH.
 

davekc

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Without a doubt it is much tougher for a new solo to come out here and try to make. Not sure on the vans (no experience) but everything else is working against you. High fuel prices and operating costs, and the big change with the HOS. A large company with QC's is not the place for solos.
Probably not a popular answer, but just calling it like I see it.












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x06col

Veteran Expediter
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Retired Expediter
US Army
Also, being resourcefull is a great help these days. Making a gamble on loads and moves is more necessary today. Yes a gamble is more costly now, and also more rewarding. Why? Anyone would set in an area burried by six or eight, I Can't imagine. Unless, it is sunny and 70, and they need a break. Setting in a pile groveling for freight is not the thing to do.
 

davekc

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I think you are starting to see more of that. Another reason I think acceptance rates are a waste of time.









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TeamCaffee

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Owner/Operator
The problem Broom as I see it is we all know that there are solo's making it at FedEx Custom Critical as well as teams. Not all companies are good for all people but that does not make them a bad company. Every company out here has employee's with an attitude problem or people you just do not get along with. That does not make a company bad. Also, with the large companies they are not touchy feely and you work in their system as they are not going to bend to fit your system. If you want the touchy feely treatment you need to go to a smaller company where they know your name.

We have a lot of respect for the company we are contracted to and also see the many faults it has. We also tell anyone that asks this is not a company for Van drivers and if you are going to run solo you are going to struggle or you will find a nitch that works for you and do well.
 

mrgoodtude

Not a Member
>How about offering this guy advice to succeed instead of
>making fun of his situation, not great question asking on
>his part but I understand his frustration and where he is
>at. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.
>
>no fan of the smurf group in Green OH.

My advice attitude adjustment.
You could use the forums and the information contained to make logical decisions.
You can seek the advice of a mentor.
You can use it as a sounding board for your frustrations.
Or you could just be like me and enjoy the banter.
At the end of the day if you are not happy with your station in life change it.
Thats what grownups do;-)
Mike
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Broom,

My advice wouldn't matter.

I am one of those types that learned some hard lessons listening to advice and came to a bunch of conclusions a while ago, some of what I have been preaching for a while.

1 - The company controls the situation, the customer controls the company. Which means that the company can not create loads out of thin air to give to you to haul.

2 - The company does not make money without you but many don't understand how to use you as a resource. They should be (very) aggressive in their quest to make money and get off their butts and make some sales.

3 - Never EVER think you are not like the other people, so stop thinking that their situation with the same company is the same as yours - it is not. Some are too 'important', while others are phlebs.

4 - There are always disparities between contractors and favoritism with every company, learn to live with it or become a favorite or leave. Contrary to some ways of thinking, there are ways that this disparity comes out.

5 - You compete with your fellow contractor unless you are an independent operator then you compete with everyone.

6 - You are not a salesman unless the company provides you the means to become one on the road - one exception to this, being independent.

7 - As in any line of work there are two types of people, the people who are flashy (pretty people) with nice organized tools and does things to perfection whether the situation calls for it or not. Then you have the people who work hard and don't care anything but getting the job done to fulfill the needs of the customer with the customer's satisfaction being the only concern. In IT area I worked in the former was what we called kiss a**es and the latter was the ones we called rich. For some reason that gets reversed here in many cases.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
New or not, this fella has a sense of humor. In spite of the fact that he is a "jumper", seems he is pretty observant about his surroundings. There is however, a couple strategys he could employ.

#1. Steada jumping round looking for that roast goose like it seems was available in his former life, he could settle down, learn the "local" system and succeed.
#2. Or, he could exit, like Broom did.

Either would work well if employed soon enough.
 

tallcal101

Veteran Expediter
Not sure who it was,but somebody here was defending the "fairness"of the FEDXCC dispatch system,and how the dispatchrs don't have tme to pick and choose favorites.The system tells them who's next for every load.
I have been in transportation corporate sales for 25 yeras for a major van line.I have sold every service that is offered,including trade show,HHG,electronics,international,truck load spec.com etc.
My point is the increasing need for the VIP customers to get the VIP drivers.Second and third tier divers and teams need not apply for these loads.Not in this economy.When there was more freight then trucks it was a different story.I remember clearly.
These days it's not the dispatchers driving the bus,it's the sales and marketing departments.
I have hand picked every driver out of those available for every VIP shipment of mine for the last 18 months.I have dead headed drivers from California to New Orleans.Yes,the van line has a dispatch system similar to the FEDEXCC system,with drivers stacking up waiting for loads.But I simply will not risk a VIP load on"next available".
A heart beat and a CDL is no longer enough for me to trust with my ever deceasing number of VIP accounts.You better believe the FEDEXCC sales people out there who are operating on a 100% commision structure(independant contractors all)are listening to their customers.Their mortgage depends on it.
The top level executives at FEDEX has been making sales calls lately and listenting to the customers demands,not their wish's.
Phil can sit back and count his $'s and brag if he chooses's,as he is among those that the CUSTOMERS of FEDEX have identified as a VIP everytime team.If I was selling expedite I would be doing the same thing,selling Phil.Let the chips fall where they may for everyone else.Sales people have to survive too.
It's brutal out there right now as this business is not growing,similar to van line business,and sales people have to rely on stealing business from the other guy to stay alive.The gloves are off and are going to stay off until theres more business or fewer trucks.I wish I could tell Free To Fail there's a golden lining,or that just sticking with it will be ok,or that FEDEX really cares,or that it can only get better.I'm facing the same thing you all are.Trying to convince corporate customers that my guys and gals are better then the other guys.Doing the best you can on every load and being in full uniform,and keeping a positive attitude seems to be the key these days.Nothing new,just much more important at this moment.
 

FREE TO FAIL

Seasoned Expediter
WELL i guess i better respond to several misconceptions that some people have concerning my jumping around and other issues.

First and formost i am not a jumper.... I only did expedite for two companies, CTX and FedEx CC. I only left CTX because as we are all aware, auto freight with the advent of NLM is nowhere to make money...tried it for 30 days and could plainly see that freight carriers that depend on auto freight are eating themselves to haul cheap freight. Coupled with the unpaid deadhead involved this is not worth my time to run. In that first month as a solo i ran almost 11,000 miles for what amounted to around 1.00 a mile, that to me is running hard for no money.

Now i run for fed Ex not a bad company as companies go, but still has room to improve. I will say that as a solo the 550 cap on loads really hurts. I found it difficult to work the system unless you happen to live in a high freight area that allows you to leave your home and get the freight locally. I ran alot less miles for around the same money, but as an O/O i feel that i was underutilizing my assets for that revenue stream. In my opinion solo driving puts too big of a cap on your earnings potential to warrant the capital costs involved. Of course that is just my opinion.

For almost the last 3 months i have run a team. I can tell you that I have great respect for my co-driver and recognize the value that he brings to my ability to be successful in this industry. I GIVE MY CO-DRIVER 25 PERCENT OF THE LOAD! including any deadhead money despite the fact that aside from west coast deadhead it is usually peanuts. I also give him 50 percent of any extras like detention time and unload money. I want to keep my co-driver happy. I have been blessed by finding a co-driver that likes to run hard. We have been out 98 percent of the time since he came on-board. I also give my co-driver a monthly bonus based on the revenue generated that month.

Now for the numbers, the big secret it appears on this site, in 11 weeks (33 loads) we have run 38,000 miles our gross revenue is over $52,000.00 our loaded mile figure is $1.85 and our all miles figure is $1.37. I consider these numbers acceptable but with alot of room for improvement. We sat alot, especially down south.
(I HATE ATLANTA!) We are not white glove or anthing special, although we will run Canada and hazmat with no reservations. I realize that these numbers are probably peak season numbers, but if i can figure out a way to reduce our down time by 15 percent i think we can hold them.

Now the bad numbers! Acceptance level 25% ugg. what can i say, this figure is pretty bad and is what's going to hold me up from really succeeding here at Fed Ex. I have looked at this figure every way to sunday and cant get around the fact that i cant improve this number and keep my co-driver happy at the same time. The problem is teams cant run the 200-300 mile ryder or lg runs we keep getting offered. I cant take a run thats going to pay my co-driver $80.00 for a day and a half load. I aint going to do it period! So what happens is i pull into chicago atlanta, or new jersey and get bombarded with lg loads and have 6 to 10 rejections right away before a team load shows up. What can i do? It also appears that Fed Ex is probably going to cut me if the fleet downsizes or at contract renewal. Well it is what it is....

I guess my biggest peeve is i am obviously making money for Fed Ex as well as myself but when i tried to talk to my recruiter about adding on a second truck, all i got was the acceptance level blah blah blah. I was kinda shocked as i am avaialble 98% of the time and had 100/100 pickup and deleivery and been running and generating revenue, consistantly making them money but because i won't cover the cheap freight i am not eligable for white glove or to add on any trucks. WOW talk about a major stumbling block to success, you need to go ahead and lose money for awhile, or lose your co-driver before you can join our elite service..... This to me is not good business. If they cut me for this all i can say is that they value the freight more then the people that carry it.

Aside from this, I cant knock Fed Ex. i do pull some good loads and like the dispatchers who are just trying to do their jobs. I know they got to try and get the freight covered and i do feel bad when they offer me the same load 3 or 4 times which i just cant take (lg omaha comes to mind). Some of them really go the extra mile to make sure you dont have problems especially on the border crossings and hazmat stuff. I appreciate their effort in trying to make sure i dont get stuck. I know that sounds like some propaganda but i have to give props where due.

I guess lastly any success i have is really as a result of my truck. god i love this beast, 900 a month for 3 years and this thing goes. been in the snow, the ice, the wind, every grade imaginable and this tank keeps going... put over 55k in the last 5 months and never been down. hauls 28k like its 3k and does it like nothing. was amazed went through south dakota and montana at 70 and 75 and still got 9 miles to the gallon. Went thru the first snow storm in chicago a few weeks back and at 24k empty never felt loose. My Co-driver loves it easy to drive and doesnt tire you out. We both can do our 11 and not feel rung out. I will say that we did have to pull over in montana when the winds in the passes were 50 to 60 miles an hour... we felt it pushing the truck and their was no reason to open the door to disaster. VOLVO MAKES A GOOD TRUCK!

Anyway just wanted to share with you while i sit here in portland trying to get the J to fill up ther back of my box at $2.89 a gallon got two 150's wish i had another two.

GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU SAFE, MERRY CHRISTMAS
 
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mrgoodtude

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Great post FTF
Factual and most important something we can all relate to.
LG's are the bane of our existence and they do count against us as well.
We have been with the Fed a few years and the one thing I have gained out of it is it's not personal.
When the freight is good we get good loads and when it's not we take a hit on acceptance.
We just roll with the punches till we cannot any longer or they push us out the door..
Postscript your in good company and it is not my intent to pick on you.
Merry Christmas and I hope you and your co-driver make it home.
Mike
 

TeamCaffee

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Owner/Operator
I agree good post FTF! Gives out the facts and what you have been doing the good and the bad.
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
FTF

I agree with the others. You created a great post with the facts rather that the usual rumors and fluff we see from so many dissatisfied forum members. From what you said, your co-driver is earning about $1200 a week for a job with which he has no investment at risk. Granted, this is one of the busier seasons of the year, albeit a slow year, and you've clearly recognized that you make hay while the sun shines so you can slide through the slower periods without too much stress over money.

One problem, as I see it, is that you have placed your lease with the carrier at risk by cherry pickin' the good team loads and not taking the occasional marginal profit load. Would it not be reasonable that your co-driver only get $1000 a week and y'all keep your lease? If we each did the cherry pickin' like you and all had a 25% load acceptance rating, our carrier would lose 75% of it's customers and have no further need for any trucks. Those cheap freight customers are going to wind up at the competition where we each will have to go if we want to stay in the expedite business.
 

ThibodeauxBayou

Not a Member
>My point is the increasing need for the VIP customers to get
>the VIP drivers.Second and third tier divers and teams need
>not apply for these loads.

>I have hand picked every driver out of those available for
>every VIP shipment of mine

But I simply will not risk a VIP load on"next available".
>A heart beat and a CDL is no longer enough for me to trust


WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You just detailed how we were able to take a hair dryer to our carriers stickers and yank'um all off.

We always left custom made business cards with a glossy pic of our truck. It contained our names and phone numbers. We also compiled a list of the names of everyone we met in both shipping and recieving.
We had the address's so that was the easy part. Once 18 months passed with our big box carrier we obtained our own authority/insurance and began running in service with $$$ paying loads and then out of service
with loads we obtained on our own. Expensive way to operate but wanted to test the waters before we jumped off the deep end. We kissed alot of serious behinds and shook alot of hands. We never left a P or D without them knowing who we were and emphasized our quality equipment and presented ourselves as courteous and professional drivers.

Six months of operating with dual personalities and we decide its time to cut loose from the dome and we were off and running. We begin not nearly as productive as we had hoped but we were relentless on the phones and contacts were established with the brokerage world. Our income falls off 35%.

Three months later we invested close to $2,000.00 in professionally produced printed/pictured brochures and mailed um off to nearly 1000 accounts. The word VIP was used 8 times throughout the brochure.
Within weeks we were running like crazy folks praying for just one nights decent sleep. We kept out rig spotless and our appearance tidy as possible.

Its really nice to answer our phone and a shipper is asking for us by name. Even nicer to hear the words "we need you"
 

FREE TO FAIL

Seasoned Expediter
Cherry picking you got to be kidding me. your right some times my co driver does well and i want him to. but some weeks he doesnt do as well. we have taken cheap freight for fed ex. but the problem with taking the cheap loads is you get no benifit from it at all! it would be one thing if you took a bad load and Fed Ex recognized it and gave you a better load to make it up but it Just Doesnt happen!!! and hey if they want to cut me for trying to make a living for both me and my co-driver so be it! We aint no husband wife team that can afford to live on one income!! Do what works for you and i will do whats right for me. P.S. if people stopped taking the cheap freight maybe the rates would go up... novel thought huh!
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
But Bayou, that is way more sweat and tears than many have to put forth. Or, for the most part, choose to. Some stay [happy] with their lot. Some when given a chance, revert to being happy with their lot. Others, work at it, and zoom into a really rewarding career. I can't help em. Maybe you can. But you really don't need the competition. So, don't. Good luck!!
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Punched the wrong button so.... my post script is.....
Problem is Bayou, your former Carrier will be wanting their 15% for introducing you to your new customers. I would!
 

easyrider2697

Expert Expediter
>
>
> Punched the wrong button so.... my post script is.....
> Problem is Bayou, your former Carrier will be wanting their
>15% for introducing you to your new customers. I would!



I think most leases have a "non-compete" clause in them, you will be lucky if you dont get sued over it.
 

goingbroke2

Seasoned Expediter
In that first month as a solo i ran almost 11,000 miles for what amounted to around 1.00 a mile, that to me is running hard for no money.

For almost the last 3 months i have run a team.....I GIVE MY CO-DRIVER 25 PERCENT OF THE LOAD! including any deadhead money.....I also give him 50 percent of any extras like detention time and unload money......I also give my co-driver a monthly bonus based on the revenue generated that month.

Now for the numbers, the big secret it appears on this site, in 11 weeks (33 loads) we have run 38,000 miles our gross revenue is over $52,000.00 our loaded mile figure is $1.85 and our all miles figure is $1.37. I consider these numbers acceptable but with alot of room for improvement. We sat alot, especially down south.


Ok, using your above numbers, lets see how much more money YOU are making, now that you've advanced to hauling "high paying" freight.

You made about $1.00/mile running cheap freight - terrible, absolutely terrible!

Now since you give your team mate 25% of the load and dead head pay, and excluding your team mate's bonuses, detention and unload pay, YOU made $39,000.00 for 38,000 miles -which means YOU made a whopping $1.03 per mile, at least you are running more miles!

Thankfully, bonuses are not figured in here.

Let's not forget that you're now running an additional 2455 miles per week! Good thing you have a heavy duty truck, they are generally thought to be good for a million miles if I am not mistaken - sounds like it might be a necessity here.

You only thought your were running hard for no money before - at least now your running over twice as hard!

For the extra 3 cents per mile before your team mates bonuses, sounds like you made the right choice to stop running for about $1.00 per mile and move up that extra .03 per mile. LOL

Disclaimer: math confuses me. :+
 
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