Those are excellent point's moot! I've been looking at this thread, and wanting to comment, but it's an emo issue for me. I have a pre teen daughter and i'm aware enough to understand exactly what Janet is talking about. And i'm also completely aware of what Jim was saying when he started this thread. I know he's not talking to everyone, and he's not slamming anyone, (whether they realize it or not), but it's important to look at these type of issue's. Unfortunetly i've run into,(as i'm sure we all have), too many cowboy type's who, when thing's get too real at home, have this "I gotta get outta Dodge" attitude instead of actually dealing with the problems. When thing's at home work out, it's because of thier good gene's, or because those kid's know when dad get's home he'll crack some skull's! Of course when thing's go wrong, it's all that stupid lazy ignorant woman's fault. What's my point here? Well, i left Landstar partly for those reason's. I found that it's too important for me to be around. Sure, technology is great, what with E-mail and text messaging and cell phones and all, but it's not the same as physically being there. I think the quality vs. quantity arguement is kinda weak, i mean, if you're around enough, the quality moments will come, rest assured. Plans are great. But spontaneity and dealing with real life situations as they come up teach our kid's valuable lessons on how societel issue's are solved. I think when you look at today's culture, and the message our kid's are getting from music and T.V. where there is no right or wrong or common decency. There is no respect, because there are no consequences. Look at the role model's...Paris Hilton? Lindsay Lohan? Britney Spears? Snoop Dogg? 50 Cent? Tupac? Sheesh! Does anyone else see a problem? HMMMM...I'm starting to sound like my own father....Guess it's time to climb down off the old soap box :+