For all you Michele Bachman fans out there.

Doggie Daddy · Sep 22, 2010

Why don't you just admit that you are just like everyone else on this planet?

If it is someone you like making the rude or immature statements you will not have a thing to say about it. BUT if is someone that you can't stand THEN you have a problem with it.

cheri1122 · Sep 22, 2010

dieseldiva said:
So, you're still going on that provoked/unprovoked thing. I guess we just don't think the same. Why are you able to see that the posting of confidential information was wrong, and against forum rules, and you cannot see the same thing about name calling, which is also wrong and against forum rules.
Even the law recognizes that there's a difference between provocation, and unprovoked aggression - if you can't, then there's nothing I can say. Except that you didn't object to the other DD's UNprovoked namecalling, did you?

This takes me back to my original question to you......why do you defend the name calling, etc., in the name of so-called provocation, when it's one of your "buddies"? Seems to me that wrong is wrong, no matter who is involved......but maybe we just don't think the same.

"So called provocation"? That's as large an understatement as I've seen in quite some time, ok?
Just as the law recognizes mitigating factors when determining the severity of an offense [even killing someone is acceptable, in self defense], so must we all.

dieseldiva · Sep 22, 2010

cheri1122 said:
"So called provocation"? That's as large an understatement as I've seen in quite some time, ok?
Just as the law recognizes mitigating factors when determining the severity of an offense [even killing someone is acceptable, in self defense], so must we all.

But there's still that pesky little thing called forum rules........

cheri1122 · Sep 22, 2010

Doggie Daddy said:
Why don't you just admit that you are just like everyone else on this planet?

If it is someone you like making the rude or immature statements you will not have a thing to say about it. BUT if is someone that you can't stand THEN you have a problem with it.

Nope - if it's provoked, I am more tolerant, just as the law is, because it makes sense to me.

Why can't YOU admit that your unprovoked comments were wrong?

Doggie Daddy · Sep 22, 2010

cheri1122 said:
Why can't YOU admit that your unprovoked comments were wrong?

How would you know that they are unprovoked ? And I wouldn't read a lot into that "sudsy" thing, because witness actually likes the moniker.

cheri1122 · Sep 22, 2010

Originally Posted by witness23

Glad to see you're still resorting to petty name calling, but we wouldn't expect more from you, now would we?
Well at least I don't spend more than 90% of my time in the soapbox. actually that 90% is a little low.
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Appears to be unprovoked, and un appreciated

Pilgrim · Sep 22, 2010

witness23 said:
The reason I am posting this, is because a lot of what she has said in the public arena are the things that we regularly see repeated here in the soapbox, conservative radio and Fox News. These are pretty important issues she speaks about and continually rates no higher than a False rating.

Link: PolitiFact | The Truth-O-Meter report card on Michele Bachmann

By Louis Jacobson
Published on Tuesday, September 21st, 2010 at 11:28 a.m.

"Speaker Pelosi ... has been busy sticking the taxpayer with her $100,000 bar tab for alcohol on the military jets that she's flying."
Michele Bachmann, Friday, September 17th, 2010.

“Social Security, like I told you, is out of money. This year it is borrowing from the general treasury.”
Michele Bachmann, Friday, June 11th, 2010.

"The New England Journal of Medicine released a survey the week that President Obama signed Obamacare stating that over 30 percent of American physicians would leave the profession if the government took over health care."
Michele Bachmann, Sunday, March 28th, 2010.

"President Obama's bill won't bring down the costs (of health care) for average Americans -- or really for very few Americans, if any."
Michele Bachmann, Wednesday, March 3rd, 2010.

As a stepchild of the notoriously liberal St. Petersburg Times, it should come as no surprise that this so-called fact checker has a bias against conservatives that's not too hard to spot if one does a little fact checking on their own.

The American Spectator : PolitiFact's Fixers

Interesting how organizations like this and Media Matters attempt to portray themselves as independant auditors when peeling away just one or two layers of veneer exposes the true nature of the owners and managers of the so-called truth.

davekc · Sep 22, 2010

Looks like Witness thinks Michele Bachman should be a democrat.

dieseldiva · Sep 22, 2010

davekc said:
Looks like Witness thinks Michele Bachman should be a democrat.

LOL Dave, you're killin' me.....

witness23 · Sep 22, 2010

Pilgrim said:
As a stepchild of the notoriously liberal St. Petersburg Times, it should come as no surprise that this so-called fact checker has a bias against conservatives that's not too hard to spot if one does a little fact checking on their own.

The American Spectator : PolitiFact's Fixers

Interesting how organizations like this and Media Matters attempt to portray themselves as independant auditors when peeling away just one or two layers of veneer exposes the true nature of the owners and managers of the so-called truth.

I would agree with you to a certain extent but one of the biggest things they do is list their sources and yes they lean a bit to the Left, as you say (whatever that is) but at least you can come to an educated decision on how credible the reporting and research is.

I'm not sure if they are for or against Conservatives as you say, it just may be that certain Politicians (Conservitive or Liberal) need to be looked into more than others and to research some of the things they say.

Hey, if you have another site that has unbiased research I would love for you to share it with me.

witness23 · Sep 22, 2010

davekc said:
Looks like Witness thinks Michele Bachman should be a democrat.

Democrat or Republican, I could careless, but this chick is a nut, like it or not.

muttly · Sep 22, 2010

witness23 said:
Democrat or Republican, I could careless, but this chick is a nut, like it or not.

She isn't a nut. She is an intelligent congresswoman.

witness23 · Sep 22, 2010

muttly said:
She isn't a nut. She is an intelligent congresswoman.

You sir, are entitled to your opinion.

witness23 · Sep 22, 2010

Doggie Daddy said:
How would you know that they are unprovoked ? And I wouldn't read a lot into that "sudsy" thing, because witness actually likes the moniker.

Not sure how you would know if I like or dislike your childish nickname for me or not. I think Cheri pointed that out quite well though.

I do have a question though; are you and DieselDiva married? I never really put any thought into it until she was accused of using more than one identity. I then thought.....holy crap, is DoggieDaddy and DieselDiva one? Maybe a cyber cross dresser of some sort?

davekc · Sep 22, 2010

witness23 said:
Democrat or Republican, I could careless, but this chick is a nut, like it or not.

Well, isn't any one that is in politics?

Pilgrim · Sep 23, 2010

witness23 said:
Hey, if you have another site that has unbiased research I would love for you to share it with me.

If you haven't already done so, take a look at www.realclearpolitics.com

They show results from all the major polls and give an overall average of the results. Also articles from both conservative and liberal commentators. Not necessarily a perfect site, but offers some good information.