First Reports on Ft. Hood

Pilgrim

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
... This has much more in common with a nutjob Going Postal on his co-workers than is does a typical terrorist attack on an innocent public. The additional factors of his name and his religion are certainly factors, as are his political motivations, but they aren't the only factors to be considered. If he had done the same thing at the Court Square or at the mall in Killeen, yeah, an unbelievably strong argument would have to be made for a terrorist act, but this was a man shooting co-workers in an enclosed space at his workplace. It is almost a certainty that this is not as simple as either scenario.

Maybe - but the theory that he was attacking those that he believed to be making war on his fellow muslims is in sync with his radical beliefs. The more information that continues to leak out, the more it seems that he was a true-blue jihadist. On the business cards he had printed for himself, he list titles of SoA (Soldier of Allah) and SWT (Subwanahu Wa Ta'all, translation - "Glory to God").



Furthermore, it appears he had multiple e-mail accounts listed under pseudonyms that might have been used to communicate with fellow soldiers of Allah. It wouldn't take an Army brain surgeon to figure out it's best not using your own name when communicating over the internet with an imam directly connected to the 911 attackers.

Granted, we're having to depend on our beloved MSM for all this information so there's more than a few grains of salt included. But what makes a forum like this interesting is the exchange of ideas, theories and speculation - if they were all the same it woudn't be any fun.

And the grassy knoll theory? You're right - Oswald wasn't the only shooter there for sure :p
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
Maybe - but the theory that he was attacking those that he believed to be making war on his fellow muslims is in sync with his radical beliefs.
Oh, absolutely it fits. Did you read about his presentation as a final year resident at Walter Reed? Everyone else, as usual, gave presentations on things medical related. He went on for an hour and a half, complete with slides and stuff, about how allowing Muslims in the military is courting disaster.


The more information that continues to leak out, the more it seems that he was a true-blue jihadist.
Depends on what is meant by jihad. If you read the section of the Qur'an where it talks about jihad, what it is, when and how it should be implemented, and read the entire section in context, you'll see that the extremists are doing two things. One, they are misinterpreting what an attack on Islam even is (they think an attack on any Muslim is an attack on the entire religion and therefore must be defended, and they think that when anyone questions what they do is also an attack on the entire religion and therefore must be defended), and two, they have taken what is essentially an out-of-context sound bite out of the Qur'an and made it their life mission. In the proper context, a jihad is purely a defensive maneuver to prevent infidels from trying to eliminate the religion of Islam, or to eliminate those who are Muslims. Fortunately, most Muslims interpret the Qur'an in the proper context. Unfortunately, the misinterpretation is what is being taught in most (well, many, a lot) Mosques and Islamic schools.


On the business cards he had printed for himself, he list titles of SoA (Soldier of Allah) and SWT (Subwanahu Wa Ta'all, translation - "Glory to God").
Exactly. He's a nut. A business card that says, "Christian Soldier" or "Man of God" isn't just as crazy? I've seen both. I've also seen "Glory to God" on bumper stickers and Internet forum sigs. But a psychiatrist who is a SoA is perhaps the most ludicrously funny. That's like Double-Mint crazy.


Furthermore, it appears he had multiple e-mail accounts listed under pseudonyms that might have been used to communicate with fellow soldiers of Allah. It wouldn't take an Army brain surgeon to figure out it's best not using your own name when communicating over the internet with an imam directly connected to the 911 attackers.
There's little doubt in my mind, especially as more and more information comes to light, that his whacked out religious beliefs played no small role in this. That doesn't make him not crazy, tho. Clearly, he's not thinking clearly. :D


And the grassy knoll theory? You're right - Oswald wasn't the only shooter there for sure :p
I still believe that Allan Dulles was behind it and that Oswald was exactly what he said he was, a patsy.
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
There's a difference between crazy and insane. They're all crazy but virtually none of them are insane. This guy certainly wasn't. He needs to be tried and executed by Texas.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
Well, there's the legal definition of insane. Legally insane is a mechanism used to determine not guilt or innocence, but punishment. Being found not guilty by reason of insanity mitigates the act and alters the punishment, but the accused still did it. Incidentally, "not guilty" is not the same as innocent. If you notice, a jury or judge will never return a verdict of "innocent". It's either guilty or not guilty. The accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty, but the charges filed assumes guilt, therefore the trial (or hearing) is for the express purpose of determining guilty, or in the absence of guilt, a finding of not guilty.

In the real world, insane is the same as crazy, nuts, looney, bonkers, Tom Cruise, bananas, mad.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
I am puzzled why we haven't heard mention of Major Hasan leaving behind a suicide note, a goodbye video, a rambling manifesto extolling the virtues of jihad.... I presume Hasan expected to die during the shootings. As a professionally trained physician, having been exposed to many years of serious academic rigor, Hasan could have crafted a written account that would give insight to his motives. Perhaps, the criminal investigators have uncovered Hasan's writings. Time will tell.

You want some wild speculation? There were radio news reports last night indicating investigators found various medications in Hasan's living quarters.... medicines prescibed to Major Hasan that are used to treat HIV patients.

Then, there are accounts of a devout Major Hasan frequenting strip clubs near Ft Hood. It gives the picture of a deeply troubled and conflicted man.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Depends on what is meant by jihad. If you read the section of the Qur'an where it talks about jihad, what it is, when and how it should be implemented, and read the entire section in context, you'll see that the extremists are doing two things. One, they are misinterpreting what an attack on Islam even is (they think an attack on any Muslim is an attack on the entire religion and therefore must be defended, and they think that when anyone questions what they do is also an attack on the entire religion and therefore must be defended), and two, they have taken what is essentially an out-of-context sound bite out of the Qur'an and made it their life mission. In the proper context, a jihad is purely a defensive maneuver to prevent infidels from trying to eliminate the religion of Islam, or to eliminate those who are Muslims. Fortunately, most Muslims interpret the Qur'an in the proper context. Unfortunately, the misinterpretation is what is being taught in most (well, many, a lot) Mosques and Islamic schools.

Sort of sounds like Israel? Taking out enemies of the state around the world in assasination fashion...in the name of protecting the Jewish religion.
 
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