Fair Warning to White Glove Dog Owners

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ATeam

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Diane and I were surprised to meet Terry O'Connell yesterday at the truck show (GATS) in Dallas. We were surprised because FedEx Custom Critical did not have a booth at the show and we had seen no company announcement that he would be there. He explained that he was there in his van because he thought a number of FedEx Custom Critical trucks would be at the show and he would be available to do truck inspections.

After a brief visit in the truck parking lot, he took us to lunch where we visited at length. We listened with interest as he explained the work and purpose he has in this newly created company position, how hard he works at it, and how his work benefits the company and its contractors. (O'Connell is a former contractor of many years who became a company employee and now serves as the Field Safety Liaison.)

One item of interest to White Glove drivers who break the rules and keep dogs in their trucks is the dog whistle O'Connell showed us. It is a smart phone ap that emits a pitch to which dogs react. He told us he has found three dogs in White Glove trucks using the device. Even if the truck is buttoned up, the dog will reveal itself by nosing its way through the curtain to investigate the pitch when O'Connell activates it.

A word to the wise: If you are a White Glove driver with a dog in your truck, get rid of the dog or get out of White Glove. You're not supposed to have the dog and you know it. If you have a prohibited dog in your truck, think this through and understand that you are playing a losing game. Your carrier now has a man on the road using electronic and other surveillance methods to find your dog.

This is a small part of the greater work O'Connell does but something very important to White Glove dog owners; thus this warning.

Posted here instead of the FedEx forum because people outside the carrier will be more likely to see it. Dog owners who are thinking about joining FedEx Custom Critical and getting into a White Glove truck should know that if you want to get into a White Glove truck, you need to leave Fido behind.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Now what does a dog have to do with safety?

Maybe compliance...like rifling thru ones sleeper like he is known to do? personal drawers looking for illegal contraband he claims?

A little over the top...IMO
 

greg334

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It is a contract thing, you want to be the elite of the elite (yea right) there are some sacrifices made - pets are one of them.

The only thing is not all dogs will respond to a dog whistle.
 

OntarioVanMan

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It is a contract thing, you want to be the elite of the elite (yea right) there are some sacrifices made - pets are one of them.

The only thing is not all dogs will respond to a dog whistle.

not to mention loss of privacy....
 

pjjjjj

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One item of interest to White Glove drivers who break the rules and keep dogs in their trucks is the dog whistle O'Connell showed us. It is a smart phone ap that emits a pitch to which dogs react. He told us he has found three dogs in White Glove trucks using the device. Even if the truck is buttoned up, the dog will reveal itself by nosing its way through the curtain to investigate the pitch when O'Connell activates it.

Thank you for posting outside the Fedex Forum so people like me can chime in. :)

I'm sure you got Mr. O'Connell's approval before publishing this. I'm sure he doesn't *want* to have to do this, but it's his job.

Now.. must there be grounds for probable cause before he uses this equipment for such a thing, or can he just slink around the lots, emitting this pitch at will?
 

greg334

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What loss of privacy?

I mean you are driving under contract with a stiff requirement to do a specific job with a specific set of tools and one stipulation is no pets - no cats, no dogs, no chinchillas.

It is a voluntary program within the FedEx family of great something or another. It is not forced onto people who own their own trucks and for that matter they may take anyone who is breathing to drive a W/G truck.

Pjjj, of course he approved it, it seems a rather good placement to get the message out. I'm surprised ... never mind ... I just think a few things Phil said are actually very funny.
 

pjjjjj

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Pjjj, of course he approved it, it seems a rather good placement to get the message out. I'm surprised ... never mind ... I just think a few things Phil said are actually very funny.

I don't know.... if it were me, I'd prefer to find offenders without advance notice and warnings.

I don't think Phil said anything very funny, but we all gotta get our kicks somehow :)
 

OntarioVanMan

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I understand Drugs and booze...but where do pets come into safety equation? that is compliance to yet another set of rules...like a dirty truck, no uniform, you need to shave...wheres the safety in that? It is what it is...
 

pjjjjj

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I understand Drugs and booze...but where do pets come into safety equation? that is compliance to yet another set of rules...like a dirty truck, no uniform, you need to shave...wheres the safety in that? It is what it is...

Well, perhaps it is a safety factor to the customer and their freight, as opposed to the truck's safety. I'm sure some of the freight WG drivers carry involves pharmaceuticals, food products, whatever, that Fedex doesn't want near animals. If those are the rules, they're the rules, and I believe the WG drivers actually agreed to them before signing up. If Fedex is selling a service which assures something, they better make sure they're providing it.
 

Dakota

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Now what does a dog have to do with safety?

Maybe compliance...like rifling thru ones sleeper like he is known to do? personal drawers looking for illegal contraband he claims?

A little over the top...IMO

That is FedEx for you.....When I was with home delivery I had them following me around, came home a few times and they wanted to search my van and my garage....I let them I had nothing to hide. I soon left FedEx because I was getting tired of them accusing me of stealing...

This was due to the policy of leaving packages outside at peoples houses and having the packages turn up missing...FedEx wanted you to leave the packages. Also if they turned up missing they would require you to go out to the house and confront the owner...I always felt awkward in that situation
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Well, perhaps it is a safety factor to the customer and their freight, as opposed to the truck's safety. I'm sure some of the freight WG drivers carry involves pharmaceuticals, food products, whatever, that Fedex doesn't want near animals. If those are the rules, they're the rules, and I believe the WG drivers actually agreed to them before signing up. If Fedex is selling a service which assures something, they better make sure they're providing it.

we do some of the same customers, food and pharma without the special stuff...and dogs are allowed in the bunk....

and of course if you sign on and know the rules exist, you live by them rules....
 

OntarioVanMan

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That is FedEx for you.....When I was with home delivery I had them following me around, came home a few times and they wanted to search my van and my garage....I let them I had nothing to hide. I soon left FedEx because I was getting tired of them accusing me of stealing...

This was due to the policy of leaving packages outside at peoples houses and having the packages turn up missing...FedEx wanted you to leave the packages. Also if they turned up missing they would require you to go out to the house and confront the owner...I always felt awkward in that situation

I would NOT have let them in my personal space..but that is just me....they don't belong there....they at first thought I was trustworthy and honest enough to hire then that should suffice...if they thought other wise they should not have signed me on...
 

pjjjjj

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That is FedEx for you.....When I was with home delivery I had them following me around, came home a few times and they wanted to search my van and my garage....I let them I had nothing to hide. I soon left FedEx because I was getting tired of them accusing me of stealing...

This was due to the policy of leaving packages outside at peoples houses and having the packages turn up missing...FedEx wanted you to leave the packages. Also if they turned up missing they would require you to go out to the house and confront the owner...I always felt awkward in that situation

It sounds like their policies are perhaps a little severe, but you know? It's kind of refreshing to see that there is at least one company still around who supervises its reputation. Too many companies nowadays have workers doing whatever they please, because they can. It seems too many owners just aren't bright enough to see what's happening, and then they're left wondering why they're not profitable, or why their sales are down substantially, or why previously loyal customers have gone with the competition, etc.

If people are able to look outside of themselves and view things from a company's perspective instead of their own, it can benefit everyone.
 

pjjjjj

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I would NOT have let them in my personal space..but that is just me....they don't belong there....they at first thought I was trustworthy and honest enough to hire then that should suffice...if they thought other wise they should not have signed me on...

Well that's just crazy thinking.. it seems most people will do whatever they can get away with.
 

OntarioVanMan

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It sounds like their policies are perhaps a little severe, but you know? It's kind of refreshing to see that there is at least one company still around who supervises its reputation. Too many companies nowadays have workers doing whatever they please, because they can. It seems too many owners just aren't bright enough to see what's happening, and then they're left wondering why they're not profitable, or why their sales are down substantially, or why previously loyal customers have gone with the competition, etc.

If people are able to look outside of themselves and view things from a company's perspective instead of their own, it can benefit everyone.

hey a company can follow me around all they want and proof check my work....their rights END at my property line...
unless they have just cause and a warrant..it ends right there...
 

Dakota

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I would NOT have let them in my personal space..but that is just me....they don't belong there....they at first thought I was trustworthy and honest enough to hire then that should suffice...if they thought other wise they should not have signed me on...

I did not have a good experience with them....I started with Home Delivery when they started from day one. The terminal manager we started with was great, for some reason he decided to leave and the replacement was terrible. Out of the 6 people who started with me, none were there after two years.
One of the contractors put on a second truck and later I talked to him and they accused him of stealing also and he lost is contract. I am involved in the class action suit which is still going on 7 years later.
I have never in my life been accused of stealing and been dealt with like I was at FedEx. I've worked in Police Departments(not as an officer but in records) I've had jobs on armored trucks etc etc etc.
 

ATeam

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Now what does a dog have to do with safety?

Depending on the shipper and the circumstances, a dog can create safety issues but also customer service issues that would be otherwise avoided if no dog was present. White Glove trucks sometimes serve customers that specifically request that no dogs be in the trucks.

The dog policy has been debated many times on the Open Forum. My purpose in this post is to simply let the cheaters know that their days may be numbered before they get caught, so comply now if you wish to stay in White Glove.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Depending on the shipper and the circumstances, a dog can create safety issues but also customer service issues that would be otherwise avoided if no dog was present. White Glove trucks sometimes serve customers that specifically request that no dogs be in the trucks.

The dog policy has been debated many times on the Open Forum. My purpose in this post is to simply let the cheaters know that their days may be numbered before they get caught, so comply now if you wish to stay in White Glove.


I get it Phil....;)
 

ATeam

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I'm sure you got Mr. O'Connell's approval before publishing this. I'm sure he doesn't *want* to have to do this, but it's his job.

No, I did not get approval. He did not swear us to secrecy before telling us about the device. I presumed he told an outspoken person like me about his use of this device because he wants people to know.

My purpose is to help a buddy by giving warning. No different than giving a bear report on the CB.
 
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