Explosives on Tappan Zee

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
We've not hauled explosives in this area before, is 1.2D allowed on the Tappan Zee? I've searched the web, looked at the atlas, we've called State Police, and they gave us a number for someplace in the Bronx and no one has an answer. Help
 

nobb4u

Expert Expediter
No explosives on Tappan Zee Bridge
has sign says you must exit before bridge When transporting:
1.1
1.2
1.3
(1.4 is ok)
When you exit there is no marked detour for Explosives and it puts you in the land of NO TRUCKS.

If you need to cross bridge you can use the Newburg Beacon Bridge. You are suppose to call the bridge 24 hours ahead of crossing but you don't have to stop or check before crossing so if anybody asks you called and told them you were coming.

Hope this helps
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
Thank you very much for the information. Do you know of any other explosive restrictions for the NY/NJ area, or can you point me in the direction of finding out?
 

hossman54

Seasoned Expediter
once you go across the newburgh bridge good luck getting south. watch the parkways. they are not always clearly marked as restricted but they all are.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
We can't take the parkways in a truck anyway. I am just amazed that I can't find any information!:mad:
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
Unfortunately, Panther isn't very good on routing. We've gotten "Explosive Routing" in the past that take us on truck restricted routes. We don't usually trust them. We'll see what they come up with when we pick this up in a few minutes.

I know we'd need an escort and have to call to cross the GW, but how much irritation factor is there when doing that?
 
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pelicn

Veteran Expediter
Ok, we are taking the Newburgh Beacon Bridge. Jaminjim is correct, which is why we were so concerned with finding out.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
You are right Pelicn the route you are given by your carrier or your GPS is a suggested route and the buck stops with the Driver not the Company.

That area of the country can be tricky.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Whether or not the Carrier gives you routing it is still the drivers responsibility to insure that they are taking the correct route.

I know that, I was wondering what their capabilities are or are not for other reasons.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I use to haul my second wife around, she was explosive too, I never could find a bridge high enough here to throw her off of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,just kid,n,,,,,lol,,,,,just kid n, we are still friends,,,,,,,dont show her this, she mite get explosive:eek:
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
here is a link to the NY and NJ port authority hazmat rules and regulations for bridges and tunnels. Good reference.
http://www.panynj.gov/truckers-resources/pdf/red-book.pdf
Yes, it is a good reference, but it doesn't give info for all the roads in the area, just the bridges that go into the city. That was the problem to begin with, we couldn't find the information we needed and the phone calls produced nothing.

UPDATE: We were able to use I87 to I287 then we went US 202 to PA 611 over to 276 to 476 to 95 to 495 to 95 and we re in MD now. That was the route that Panther sent.
We survived, but I doubt we'll accept another explosive load up in New England :eek:
 

guido4475

Not a Member
Thank you very much for the information. Do you know of any other explosive restrictions for the NY/NJ area, or can you point me in the direction of finding out?

Your CARRIER should be taking care of this, not you.Especially with explosives.Or maybe I got spolied from being at Landstar back in the day.
 

guido4475

Not a Member
Have to disagree guido. It is the drivers job to confirm all routing.

Back in the day Landstar would require me to fax the bol to them BEFORE leaving the dock.Then they would either call me or fax me what correct placards to use, ensuring the shipper had the bol and placard correct, as well as the correct route.That act from them prevented possible problems/fines to the driver and carrier.What an awesome company.I'm not saying it is 100% the carriers responsibilty to route the drivers, or that we need our hand held, but in this day and age, with all of the crazy rules and regulations,we can use all the help we can to avoid any kind of problem and possible fine.Landstar was always there for that reason.
 
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hossman54

Seasoned Expediter
New England is not so bad but NYC is a pain. I drove Motorcoach for years and even getting around with those is difficult with restrictions.
 
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