Estab GOP Sees Writing On Wall - Decides To Go "3rd Party"

RLENT

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BHWAHAHA - I love it !

Wonder what they will do when a couple more State GOP parties call for the RNC Chairman's head on a platter ?

RNC, Romney campaign will erect new organization to bypass state GOP
By Jon Ralston
Wednesday, May 16, 2012 | 2:41 p.m.


Fed up with an inept and self-destructive GOP apparatus in Nevada, the Republican National Committee and the Mitt Romney campaign have decided to erect a “shadow state party” in this critical swing state, sources confirmed today.


“They are still bogged down in the minutiae of whether Romney will be the presumptive nominee,” scoffed a GOP strategist familiar with the details of the restructuring. “We don’t have time for that when the Obama campaign already is in full campaign mode. We have no use for them (the state GOP).”


The lack of faith in the Republican Party here intensified with the botched February caucus, metastasized after the Ron Paul takeover in Sparks and reached its zenith with Tuesday evening’s call for RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to resign by a divided Clark County GOP


Priebus was described to me as “disappointed with the censuring,” which probably means his blood pressure went high enough to give an elephant a stroke. So Priebus, in concert with the Romney folks here, have decided to turn the so-called Team Nevada office on Tropicana into the de facto Republican Party.


“The goal is for us to be running get out the vote, running phone programs, voter ID, voter contact, everything through the Team Nevada headquarters,” the strategist told me. That is, everything the party is supposed to do, except the GOP here can’t raise money and has the inmates running the asylum.


He continued: “The RNC has said it is willing to do everything possible as the state party appears not to be willing to work with us, so we will do it without them.”


The plan would be to transfer money directly to Team Nevada and/or funnel some through the Washoe Republican Party, run by the respected Dave Buell, who is well-liked by the RNC and Romney folks.


To distill, the GOP insider said, “Essentially we’re setting up a shadow state party.”


And it will surely cast a long shadow over a state GOP that is trying to oust its executive director, David Gallagher, a political pro, while other staff departures seem likely as the Paul folks complete their coup. Even soon-to-be-former RNC Committeeman Bob List called the state GOP “dysfunctional” during an appearance today on NPR’s “Talk of the Nation,” although the former governor also blamed the Romney campaign for resting on its caucus win laurels and allowing the Paul revolution to occur.


But List is likely not to factor into these plans, which will feature full integration, as is occurring nationally, between the RNC and Romney. It's also likely that after the June 12 primary clears the filed, the Rep. Joe Heck and Sen. Dean Heller campaigns will get on board.


This move has been inevitable and essential for some time for the RNC and Team Romney to combat a formidable Democratic machine. They won’t be able to do everything the Democrats can do, but separating themselves from the imploding and embarrassing party structure is a good first step.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ra...mney-campaigns-will-erect-new-organization-b/

The RNC: "As the heads of the Party of Stupid, we deliver opportunities for your amusement on a daily basis ...."

Mittens here's a little food for thought:

Winners never cheat .... and cheaters never win.
 
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davekc

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Probably the smart thing to do now since Paul has officially said the nominee would be Romney. Paul's campaign also said they can't control some of the foolishness of its supporters and asking them to show some "decorum". Looks like there is a battle brewing internally between the Paul campaign and his revolution crowd.
For the Romney crowd it is likely more of getting rid of the Paul distraction. Totally understandable at this point. Why fool with him when it will net no real results. Even the Paul campaign has figured that out.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Probably the smart thing to do now since Paul has officially said the nominee would be Romney. Paul's campaign also said they can't control some of the foolishness of its supporters and asking them to show some "decorum". Looks like there is a battle brewing internally between the Paul campaign and his revolution crowd.
For the Romney crowd it is likely more of getting rid of the Paul distraction. Totally understandable at this point. Why fool with him when it will net no real results. Even the Paul campaign has figured that out.

Do you have a link?
 

davekc

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There are several all saying basically the same thing.
Are some Ron Paul supporters going rogue? - CSMonitor.com

As an afterthought, it may be that the campaign side of things may want some favors in a variety of ways from Romney. If part of their supporters are making that difficult, that might erode some of those opportunities. Just typical politics.
 
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Tennesseahawk

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There are several all saying basically the same thing.
Are some Ron Paul supporters going rogue? - CSMonitor.com

As an afterthought, it may be that the campaign side of things may want some favors in a variety of ways from Romney. If part of their supporters are making that difficult, that might erode some of those opportunities. Just typical politics.

I think they were asking the RNC for some decorum, since they were breaking rules by backing one candidate over another. I think what's happening is right in line with what Ron Paul has planned. Revolution.
 

xiggi

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I think they were asking the RNC for some decorum, since they were breaking rules by backing one candidate over another. I think what's happening is right in line with what Ron Paul has planned. Revolution.

It seems to me his supporters are more interesterested I revolution than he is.

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aristotle

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It seems to me his supporters are more interesterested I revolution than he is.

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The Paul supporters can be a troublesome bunch. Difficult and unreliable. Romney doesn't really need them and would do well to keep them at arm's length. If Romney lets the Paul camp into his inner circle, he will find himself surrounded by more backstabbers than Julius Caesar. Romney is smart enough to understand this. If the Paulies keep making trouble, now or at the convention, the Paul brand will be destroyed. Meaning, Rand is finished as well. This libertarian strain must be purged from the GOP. It is a parasitic fringe element in search of a host.
 

Tennesseahawk

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The Paul supporters can be a troublesome bunch. Difficult and unreliable. Romney doesn't really need them and would do well to keep them at arm's length. If Romney lets the Paul camp into his inner circle, he will find himself surrounded by more backstabbers than Julius Caesar. Romney is smart enough to understand this. If the Paulies keep making trouble, now or at the convention, the Paul brand will be destroyed. Meaning, Rand is finished as well. This libertarian strain must be purged from the GOP. It is a parasitic fringe element in search of a host.

Sorry, but it was a true conservative party before it was ever a RINO party. It is us who needs to purge the likes of you.
 

aristotle

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Sorry, but it was a true conservative party before it was ever a RINO party. It is us who needs to purge the likes of you.

If libertarian principles had appeal, Ron Paul would be the nominee. He tried his best and finished last. The libertarians have their own party. Why are they so intent on damaging the GOP? Spite?
 

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Interesting, I think, how we have evolved as a citizenry to the point where personal liberty has so little appeal to the masses.
 

layoutshooter

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Interesting, I think, how we have evolved as a citizenry to the point where personal liberty has so little appeal to the masses.


Proof that the public indoctrination (education) system is doing EXACTLY what the feds want it to so. Dumb down the masses. That is the primary reason that the Department of Education MUST be closed down and control of education returned to the parents. I would go as far as to do away with all public education.
 

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Hawk,

I believe they are talking about their own supporters.

Quote from article.
OK, that’s not the same thing as formally ending his campaign, as we ourselves have said. But you can see the campaign’s end from there. More to the point, Paul and his campaign staff have been urging his supporters to remain civil as they plan for the GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla., in August.
 
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xiggi

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Interesting, I think, how we have evolved as a citizenry to the point where personal liberty has so little appeal to the masses.

Not everyone is going to agree on what all personal liberty includes. Even constitutional scholars underdstand all people do not have the same interpitation of what it means and say both can have merit. They are not referring to those with extreme interpitations. Saying personal liberty may mean more to one person than another is a little general to be true depending on personal beliefs.

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aristotle

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Interesting, I think, how we have evolved as a citizenry to the point where personal liberty has so little appeal to the masses.

The term "personal liberty" does have appeal. What is worrisome to some of us is how libertarians want to push the ideal of personal liberty right up against anarchy. The Paul brand of libertarianism frightens traditional conservative voters. On an economic platform, there isn't much difference between conservatives and libertarians. On social issues and foreign policy, there is sometimes a wide gulf. This is where Ron Paul loses broad appeal: his live and let live (laissez faire) nonchalant attitude toward social issues and foreign policy would be more at home in France or Sweden.

Plus, Americans aren't going to elect someone who competes with Barack Obama in bad-mouthing the USA.
 

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Well, traditional conservatives are hardwired to tell other people what to do, what to think, and how to live, so it's not surprising that the notion of personal liberty scares the Hеll out of these people. As for his foreign policy, it's really pretty simple - it's the same foreign policy the Founding Fathers created and governed the nation by, and it's the same policy this country had right up until World War I - no entangling alliances, and don't be a world-class bully. With World War I the traditional conservatives realized that as long as we can kick everyone's donkey, we can tell them what to do, what to think, and how to live, toooooo. It was and continues to be a temptation too powerful to resist.
 

Tennesseahawk

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For one, Ron Paul does not badmouth the country, he badmouths the government. The government that dictates to other countries, attacks other countries, looks for excuses to bully other countries. Other countries are only going to take so much before they push back at the bully.

On social issues, Ron Paul only states it's not the federal government's responsibility to get involved. If your beloved state has other plans, so be it. The big, bloated, greedy federal government does not need to stick its penis in a buttocks of society, just because it wants to. The federal government is like a plague... having to get into every nook and cranny of everyday life. It infests each and every one of us, "for the greater good". I'm sorry, but they would do even GREATER GOOD if they kept the hell away from us! And the states, too, need to stand up to the big bully.

And Xiggi... liberty is simple. FREEDOM from an intrusive government. FREEDOM to be allowed to self-govern.
 

RLENT

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Dave said:

Paul's campaign also said they can't control some of the foolishness of its supporters and asking them to show some "decorum".

And then Hawk asked:

Do you have a link?

And Dave then replied:

There are several all saying basically the same thing.


Seems straight forward enough .... except for the fact that the article doesn't actually say what Dave originally said it did ....

Seems like that thing is sorta becoming a habit lately ....

Inability to observe what is actually there ?

Hyper-partisan political "spin" ?

Just plain sloppiness ?

I don't know .... but it sure is interesting .... :rolleyes:
 

RLENT

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The term "personal liberty" does have appeal.
It's not so much the term as it is the idea or concept that it represents ....

What is worrisome to some of us is how libertarians want to push the ideal of personal liberty right up against anarchy. The Paul brand of libertarianism frightens traditional conservative voters.
Almost everything frightens the (so-called) "traditional conservatives" that you are referring to .... it is the primary factor that motivates them .... and why they have the propensity to want to control everyone else ....
 

xiggi

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I guess it really didnt say.

, as Mr. Benton put it later in a conference call with reporters, “we’re emphasizing decorum.”

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Dave said:



And then Hawk asked:



And Dave then replied:


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Seems straight forward enough .... except for the fact that the article doesn't actually say what Dave originally said it did ....

Seems like that thing is sorta becoming a habit lately ....

Inability to observe what is actually there ?

Hyper-partisan political "spin" ?

Just plain sloppiness ?

I don't know .... but it sure is interesting .... :rolleyes:

Just my personal interpretation. Still basically the same point.
They read what they want to read followed by a goofy response.. You got it right Xiggi.
 
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