Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Trucking

raceman

Veteran Expediter
I want to put my 23 cents in here on the signiture line and experience. As I stated somewhere else on here, I do see a benefit to this and as I read the posts from others I see where it makes no difference.

My feeling is that a lot of the business questions posted on here can be answered by many of us including people that are only researching, no truck time at all.

I have a very long work history and I have been in more things than many people will ever have a chance to be in just because of the family I grew up in. I have owned a body shop, a custom framing and art business, I have worked for one of the largest consumer products companies in the world, I have driven trucks, I have worked in family owned trucking businesses and I have been in brick and block. There is more but I know most of you are over it.

The point is that I have a lot of life experience, I have some trucking experience and I have some expedited trucking experience. I think I can bring a lot to the table when it comes to advice. On this forum at this point in my expedited career I can now share what can happen when you least expect it and that is what I feel many folks on here need to understand.

I have been contacted by many many folks wanting a truck and as I talk to them it becomes clear they are not in a good financial situation right now. That in my opinion is the worst time to get in this business as an O/O. If anything happens they will be devistated financially. Maybe ruined for years to come. It is those people that I hope look at that signiture line, or the rating system info or a persons profile and understand who is encouraging them and who is not.

That is where I see all this credentials thing to be important. I think it also helpful when asking what it is like out there to know the person answering you has done it for X period of time.

When I started as a driver ever time I was on the phone and asked how do you like it, I would say I loved it, it is great. When people ask me that now I say I love the business. The rest of it does not fit my description of a fun day. It is not great in my opinion to be woke up after two hours of sleep only to be told you gotta go 300 more miles. I like getting a good nights sleep. My view is different today. I also would answer the question of new vs used much differently today than I did two years ago and I think it helps people to know my background when they get my answer.

I went into expediting with some trucking experience and a lot of life experience and the life experience fueled my decisions. If I started today I would do it differently than I did. My experience is different. My answers are now different. My pocket book is now different all this new experience does not show up in my signiture line but it will show up in my advice and my answers to questions.

Many times experience matters not when answering a question and other times if the indivdual asking the question has any brains and they ask, "should I get new or used equipment" I hope they look at that line and say out of my answers the guy who said what I wanted to hear has no experience and the guy with 20 years did not give me the answer I wanted but that experience may very well be worth taking. He must have been through this decision once or twice.

I know I am rambling but it seems to me the type of questions being asked may be answered as well by someone who has little experience in trucking as they may be by someone who has a lot. I simply think the signiture information gives a reader the ability to weight the info. If I ask "How much cash should I have in the bank before I buy a truck" A good business mind can answer that as well if not better than a 10 year trucker. Maybe. I think knowing the background from which an answer comes gives you a little better feel for which answer you take. I have given advice to folks based on my life experience and I know it has helped them. I also know they may never have taken that advice if I told them I was a truck driver. In other words there is a lot that goes into what people listen to and why.

But when you come right down to it what does it hurt and what does it help to list your experience? Now if you think about my last few lines in this post you will see I can see where this is six of one or half dozen of another because I see benefit and I see where it may keep someone from taking good advice. But what does it really hurt by sticking it in there for someone who finds it important.

I will end with something for everyone to think about. If I would have listened to the experienced Dr. on 11/27/01 I would most likely be dead or atleast have some organs from another and maybe a not so good quality of life. I listened to a less than experienced medical person with a whole bunch of other research experience, and have all my own guts and have a wonderful quality of life. I am glad I did not see those signiture lines until I was fixed. I listened to a person with 35 years of experience tell me why to buy new trucks and I bought used. I wish I would have seen his signiture line when I went against his advice. Tough spot but I say stick the signiture line in there. What the heck.



Raceman
Owner Two Straight Truck.
Part time driver of one of my trucks and local TT.
15mon.OTR Expediting
1 yr local Expediting
Line Haul TT 2mon.
OTR Straight Truck Plt to Plt off and on 5 years.
Based in Cincy Ohio
Currently at Express-1


[font color="red"](Since this was brought back to the top) Edited by Dreamer for easier reading with Raceman's permission.[/font]
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

Good Post.
As you have found, just because someone is experienced in something doesn't always mean their answer is correct. But one can build a portfolio of information from experienced and inexperienced people to arrive at a proper conclusion. It is only a matter of where the information is coming from to compare.
Davekc
owner
20 years
 

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

I read this after I have tried to contact you re: exactly this. But what do you mean by (signature line).

After reading this and our correspondances via E-mail you have me quite concerned.

I just want to let everyone here know who knows of my past situation that everything and mean everything is now OK. I am personally doing well, love working with my new carrier. Alot of hard knocks had to be taken, but prayer, savings, and determination got me over the bad times and hopefully the good will continue. So Newbees reading this your gona need more reserves than just hoping your earnings will out pace your debts unexpected things will come up and you had better be prepared even if your going into someone elses truck.
 

Tennesee Trash

Expert Expediter
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

Guys after reading so many post and threads about experience compared to inexperience and giving newbies advice I was prompted to write my view of all this. MY opinion and no one else's.

When I go to the Dr. he always ask ,"what seems to be the problem today Larry"? I reply and he does what he needs to do to address the answer I have given. He then begins to look at the problem and take necessary steps to hopefully cure the problem. When I ask for his help I did not ask for his credentials they were in plain sight for all to see. I have no idea whether he finished 1st in his class or last,graduated last week or 10 years ago, all I know is he is a DR.. I am given the luxury not to take his advice and get a second opinion and with that in mind I wouldn't ask the nurse her opinion, but another trained doctor. Iwould do the same with my dentist or any one looking out for my health and/ or best interest.

I therefore wouldn't go to a truck salesman and discuss my bladder problem or expect him to say "open your mouth and say awwwwwh". I would expect him to advise me on the equipment but not a financial plan. I would be able to get payments, taxes, and overall cost and maybe a cup of coffee. After all he sells trucks. He can't tell me who pays more , who is best to drive for or even how much I can make, after all, like I said, he sells trucks.

I am of the opinion that truckers are to whom I rely to give me straight answers. I ask questions ,formulate a plan and go from there. I go to truckers for the answers to trucking questions not a DR. , Dentist, and not a truck salesman( although there have been some I really liked).

I nor anyone else on this site has any idea who some of these (suggetioners) ,new word, are. I don't know anybody yet , I am new! I listen to many and go from there. I have stated time and time again I need all the help I can get. I need to know who is on the level and who is full of #@^%. I read between the lines and understand that some are prone to speak out their wazoo. I have the right to question whatever someone tells me .

Guys I have discussed my past , my inexperience, my desire to make this work, all I want is the truth as you know it, PERIOD.If there is some perverse reason for someone to lead me astray , shame on me for being that short sighted and gullible not to get a second opinion.

I will meet with anybody anytime to discuss trucking over maybe an O'Doull(sp) or whatever! I value experience . I feel this is the site to help ME and help me do as good as I can until I see for myself.

One other thing I will no longer post anything because I am too new for anyone to listen to. I only wanted to get my two cents worth in and leave quietly, ya'll have won ,I'm gone. Thank you all very much for all the help and God Bless and keep everyone safe.


Thanks Larry Ballentine
o experience
beat down and out
 

geo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Navy
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

after reading what has been said on this subject if i knew what i know now i would have gone into goverment service and what i did in navy with supply system in norfolk, when i got out of navy in 89
could have gone right in to system , but at time there were people who if did not want to see and get away from and firgure could do it anytime well
sometime's anytime is to late
but still like what i do as i like the freedom to come and go as i please
 

SillySafetyGirl

Expert Expediter
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

Raceman - I've been in the transportation industry on the paperwork level for over 20 years. I've never driven a semi, but I sure have permitted and taxed enough of them to know where you're coming from.

Along with my 20+ years in transportation, my life has been full of other occupations, careers, family, college, and attitudes. We all do what we can to survive, but its the outcome of it all that counts the most.

I was impressed with your writing abilities - with the exception of lack of paragraphs. Not that I'm an expert, but I used to tutor English students, so yeah, I guess I are an expert! I gots good grammar too!

Lawrence posted a notice not too long ago about paragraph spacing; you may want to go back and read it.

Keep on keepin on,

Silly
 

raceman

Veteran Expediter
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

I did go back and see the paragraph note and I have taken note. I thank Lawrence and Leo for pointing that out earlier.

I have no idea why I was doing that. Not paying attention or thinking.

Thanks I will keep my eye on it.
Raceman
Owner Two Straight Truck.
Part time driver of one of my trucks and local TT.
2 years OTR Expediting
1 yr local Expediting
Line Haul TT 2mon.
OTR Straight Truck Plt to Plt off and on 5 years.
Based in Cincy Ohio
Currently at Express-1
Father of 4 children
Grandfather of 1 boy
3 years without full use of my mind
 

SillySafetyGirl

Expert Expediter
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

I have no idea why I was doing that. Not paying attention or thinking.

I'm blond - can relate!
 

vernon946

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

Tennesee Trash,

I enjoy reading your posts, and I appreciate the viewpoint you have as someone with 0 experience. You seem to be loaded with common sense though, and that is a pretty important quality to help sort thru the different answers we all give. If you have never seen a cow, you might mistake it for a moose based on a general description of the two critters.

I for one will miss your contributions, and hope you change your mind.

Geminiblue, you asked if FedEx CC is a decent company. I am really surprised that you have not been answered.

In my opinion and experience with them, they are a very safety minded company that goes by the book because they want to keep a high rating with DOT and want that for us too. We have never been asked to do anything shady or illegal with FedEx. They pay on time and to the penny due, and always seem to have enough work to keep us busy.

If we started over again tomorrow, it would be with FedEx CC.

Vernon in C2197
 

TJ959

Veteran Expediter
RE: Epedited Experience vs Life Experience vs Truc

Hey Tennesee Trash - Don't be giving up so fast. I , for one enjoy your posts and your life experience is just as important as trucking experience.
 
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