England and gun confiscation,,,
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Awww c'mon Joe ..... a little what if imagination here LOL ......
LOL!! IF I HAVE too!
mohawk
Active Expediter
I personally love my HOA. It is ran by very responsible and level headed people. Working on the road I know that my neighborhood has its own armed security as well as all neighborhood maintnence being done very swiftly.
I was working in Afghanistan when my youngest daughter was born and the extra security I felt was worth every penny being so far from home.
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I was working in Afghanistan when my youngest daughter was born and the extra security I felt was worth every penny being so far from home.
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To each his own. That is part of the freedoms we enjoy in this country.
I would not live in one. I prefer to contract my own maintenance. I allow myself the luxury of painting my house as I see fit and I can part my truck in my drive way!
I MUCH prefer my freedom to security. My CHOICE.
Bottom line,,,,,, so in England, let me get this straight. You hear a break in going on downstairs in your home. You cannot own a gun. ( is that correct ). Ok. The bad guys are breaking in armed with clubs and bats and hammers and such. You are one and they are 3.
Your a stay at home mom and hubby is gone. You have 3 babies, now what....oh, the police are 10 minutes away....................The Armed Citizen Blog | by: NRA Staff please read
Your a stay at home mom and hubby is gone. You have 3 babies, now what....oh, the police are 10 minutes away....................The Armed Citizen Blog | by: NRA Staff please read
EnglishLady
Veteran Expediter
They could also have an illegal gun as well, no law has EVER stopped contraband of ANY kind. I DEFY ANYONE to prove me wrong on that. Even that scumbag Barry. He SURELY did not spend a LOT of time, WASTED, without breaking a few laws and "doing" some "contraband". Obama is a TOTAL joke!
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Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
LOL
Why go to another Country, I think you have enough on your plate about guns & democrats here in the USA?
Just for the record that was initially a demonstration on the hunting ban which the majority on the UK supports.
Frank Cook was a rebel MP.
Tony Martin, unfortunately did a couple naughties ...not only did he not have a weapons license, he did not shoot in self defence but after the burglars left .... shooting one in the back.
Poll after poll shows that UK citizens do not want firearms or our police armed.
I know that is probably hard for you to understand .... but it is what it is
Thought I would clear that up for you
Now back to the US and your guns ..... carry on
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I read that the British gun ban started over a mass killing, like we had last month. There was an uproar, and the citizens wanted the guns gone. Exactly the opposite happened here. There is probably more support for the 2nd Amendment now, than before the shootings, because we know the propaganda the libs will use to control guns.
As a side, Norway, Finland, Germany, and Australia also banned guns soon after a mass shooting. How convenient for the party opposing guns. All it took was a loony. Indeed, how convenient.
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Became law in feb 1997
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EnglishLady
Veteran Expediter
Sort of ... but <one last try at explaining this .. sigh> ..... you have to try and understand that guns are/never were a big deal in UK (probably Europe too) like it is here in America.
In America lots of people own a gun/rifle of some sort lets say, for example, the majority have a gun the minority do not. In the UK it would probably look something like 1 person in every 100,000 had a weapon.
Most UK citizens never owned a weapon in their life and never wanted to ....... do you see what I am saying
UK/USA = Apples and OrangesUK & USA are nothing alike in gun culture and therefore UK is not a good comparison to be used for like minded thinking with the USA on guns.
Gun politics in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hope that finally explains it
Former PM John Howard said...
"The Second Amendment, crafted in the immediate post-revolutionary years, is more than 200 years old and was designed to protect the right of local communities to raise and maintain militia for use against external threats (including the newly formed national government!). It bears no relationship at all to the circumstances of everyday life in America today. Yet there is a near religious fervour about protecting the right of Americans to have their guns — and plenty of them.
Read more: Massacres and Gun Rules: What U.S. Can Learn from U.K. and Australia | TIME.com
The results have been tangible: A widely cited 2010 study in the American Journal of Law & Economics showed that gun-related homicides in Australia dropped 59% between 1995 and 2006. The firearm-suicide rate dropped 65%. There has been no mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur attack.
"The Second Amendment, crafted in the immediate post-revolutionary years, is more than 200 years old and was designed to protect the right of local communities to raise and maintain militia for use against external threats (including the newly formed national government!). It bears no relationship at all to the circumstances of everyday life in America today. Yet there is a near religious fervour about protecting the right of Americans to have their guns — and plenty of them.
Read more: Massacres and Gun Rules: What U.S. Can Learn from U.K. and Australia | TIME.com
The results have been tangible: A widely cited 2010 study in the American Journal of Law & Economics showed that gun-related homicides in Australia dropped 59% between 1995 and 2006. The firearm-suicide rate dropped 65%. There has been no mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur attack.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Well no shlavaka, Journal of Law and Retardedness. Get rid of most of the cars, and car fatalities will go down as well. However, what they won't mention is that other forms of suicide likely went up. Wow! The common sense of these studies. Outlaw pork, and you're not likely to get a decent BLT either.
Sounds like a drunk writing. This is here, not anywhere else. England would NOT exist if Hitler not been a sick wacko. England stood NO chance against Nazi Germany, it was ONLY Hitler's metal state that saved them.
On the OTHER hand, Japan did NOT attack the US because they KNEW they would have to fight their way through every house and neighborhood because of the armed citizens. I kinda LOVE not being a "professional victim"
People living on a crowded island make all sorts of strange accommodations. I wonder what is the population density of England relative to the United States?
Wiki says: England's population density= 1054 per square mile.
US population density= 88 people per square mile.
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AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Not only that. The fact that the US sent them a buttload of firearms and instructors to teach them to shoot them helped. The US sent rifles to their military and a bunch of single-shot, disposable .45 pistols made from sheet metal stampings called The Liberator, air dropping them to the resistance.
Guns deserve a place of honor, among all that is good.
Lets not be to rough on England. England is one of our best buds at the moment. Yes they got their azz busted in WW2, yes we did a lot for them, but guess what, most of us( just saying now) are English Americans. We need all the friends we can get, imho. I like the Queen, she sees her grandson dancing around naked, picks up the phone, has his happy azz back in the military and you don't hear nothing on him now, u go Queen Momma.
I am not an English American. I am ONLY an American. Born and raised here. I also am not of English decent.
When war broke out in Europe, US President Franklin Roosevelt recognised that the conflict threatened US security, and looked for ways to help the European democracies without direct involvement in the war. This necessity increased in June 1940, when the Fall of France left Britain as the only democracy standing between Nazi Germany and America. In 1939, the Fourth Neutrality Act authorised the US to trade arms with belligerents provided that the countries paid in cash and collected them. In March 1941,
Roosevelt moved further towards making the US the ‘arsenal of democracy’ with the Lend-Lease Act, which permitted the lending, leasing, selling, or bartering of arms, ammunition and food to “any country whose defence the President deems vital to the defence of the US.”
Roosevelt moved further towards making the US the ‘arsenal of democracy’ with the Lend-Lease Act, which permitted the lending, leasing, selling, or bartering of arms, ammunition and food to “any country whose defence the President deems vital to the defence of the US.”
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But world events such as the economic crash of 1929 and the Russian revolution of 1917 meant that an isolationist view of the world was becoming out of date.
What about trade,who was America going to sell its goods to if everywhere else was a fascist or communist state?.
From 1933 when Hitler came to power there was a clash of views in America as to what to do about the European situation. Some like Lindberg and Father Coghlan and others wanted America to stay out of European affairs. To be fair not everyone who was an isolationist was pro Nazi. But Lindberg was.
As a footnote I am sick of hearing about Lindberg flying the Atlantic,2 British pilots ALCOCK and Brown did it in 1919 but history puts them to one side because they were not Americans.
Anyway Nazi foreign policy in helping the Facists in the Spanish Civil War and taking over Austria and Nazi internal policy of oppressing the Jews and everyone who did not agree with them helped change opinions in America.
In the Far East Japanese actions in China made Americans anti Japanese. FDR helped the allies with lend lease,he would have done more but public opinion in America had to be allowed to catch up. Any Americans who think that American had no argument with Nazi Germany should look up the names USS RUBEN JAMES and USS GRIER on the internet.
Leaving aside the fact America would have been a lonely democracy in a world of dictators,who were they going to trade with if everybody else did not believe in free trade.
So thanks FDR and the American people for helping the allies to win World War 11.
But it was not done just to be nice, it was vital to the continued existence of the United States as the sort of country it claimed to be.
What about trade,who was America going to sell its goods to if everywhere else was a fascist or communist state?.
From 1933 when Hitler came to power there was a clash of views in America as to what to do about the European situation. Some like Lindberg and Father Coghlan and others wanted America to stay out of European affairs. To be fair not everyone who was an isolationist was pro Nazi. But Lindberg was.
As a footnote I am sick of hearing about Lindberg flying the Atlantic,2 British pilots ALCOCK and Brown did it in 1919 but history puts them to one side because they were not Americans.
Anyway Nazi foreign policy in helping the Facists in the Spanish Civil War and taking over Austria and Nazi internal policy of oppressing the Jews and everyone who did not agree with them helped change opinions in America.
In the Far East Japanese actions in China made Americans anti Japanese. FDR helped the allies with lend lease,he would have done more but public opinion in America had to be allowed to catch up. Any Americans who think that American had no argument with Nazi Germany should look up the names USS RUBEN JAMES and USS GRIER on the internet.
Leaving aside the fact America would have been a lonely democracy in a world of dictators,who were they going to trade with if everybody else did not believe in free trade.
So thanks FDR and the American people for helping the allies to win World War 11.
But it was not done just to be nice, it was vital to the continued existence of the United States as the sort of country it claimed to be.
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Yeah, too bad, we would STILL be SUBJECTS of a murderous family. Much better to have wimped out like other countries that accepted control of that nasty bunch.
What does that have to do with the fact that I am NOT an English-American?
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