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Turtle

Turtle

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Well, OK, what's the breakdown? What percentage of Mexican-looking people are working here legally and illegally?


"Southerners are called rednecks all the time, while only a few would be what I'd consider white trash. In fact, I see more white trash in the Detroit area than I've ever experienced down south."

True, but you don't often hear of Detroit white trash being referred to as rednecks. That's a term reserved almost exclusively for the South, mainly because of that "stereotype-based-in-fact" thing, as it comes from the red necks of poor farmers plowing the fields behind a mule out in the sun.


"Blacks make up 53% of the prison population, while being only 15% of the nation's population."

Be interesting to hear what kinds of conclusions (non-racist ones, anyway) that can be drawn from that. Does that mean that just 15% of the population commit 53% of the crimes that yield prison time? Does that mean that blacks commit more crimes by a wide margin than other races? Or does it mean that white judges are more likely to sentence blacks than whites to prison time instead of probation for the same exact crimes committed, either because of straight-up racism or because whites tend to be able to afford better lawyers? Because it's actually the last one that has proved to be the case.
 
Dakota

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
Turtle said:
Well, OK, what's the breakdown? What percentage of Mexican-looking people are working here legally and illegally?


"Southerners are called rednecks all the time, while only a few would be what I'd consider white trash. In fact, I see more white trash in the Detroit area than I've ever experienced down south."

True, but you don't often hear of Detroit white trash being referred to as rednecks. That's a term reserved almost exclusively for the South, mainly because of that "stereotype-based-in-fact" thing, as it comes from the red necks of poor farmers plowing the fields behind a mule out in the sun.


"Blacks make up 53% of the prison population, while being only 15% of the nation's population."

Be interesting to hear what kinds of conclusions (non-racist ones, anyway) that can be drawn from that. Does that mean that just 15% of the population commit 53% of the crimes that yield prison time? Does that mean that blacks commit more crimes by a wide margin than other races? Or does it mean that white judges are more likely to sentence blacks than whites to prison time instead of probation for the same exact crimes committed, either because of straight-up racism or because whites tend to be able to afford better lawyers? Because it's actually the last one that has proved to be the case.
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you forgot cracker honky:rolleyes:
 
Dakota

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
EnglishLady said:
I have no idea what that above term means :confused:

But I sure am learning a lot on E.O.

:D:p
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It's a term some black people call some white people
sometimes just cracker sometimes cracker honky
cracker probably referring to a white saltine cracker
Personally I've been called a cracker before and I don't find it offensive LOL
I grew up in South Central L.A. and was really the minority there.
Go pickup the movies Friday or Next Friday if you like comedies


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)
 
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Tennesseahawk

Tennesseahawk

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Ragman said:
Blacks are criminals?
Mexicans are lazy?
Jews are rich?
Arabs are terrorists?

Come on Hawk! You know better than that!:eek:
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Ok, let's dissect this...
Blacks are criminals: I've stated the fact. Whether or not you or I agree with it is irrelevant.
Mexicans are lazy: Historically, they've taken naps when the sun is hot (siestas).
Jews are rich: Well, I don't know about rich, but being tightwads is the stereotype I know of. Jews were the money lenders in medieval times, when money lending was denounced by most European societies, as well as the Catholic church.
Arabs are terrorists: The ones who blow things up, use their own people as shields, saw off journalists' heads... most were Arab.

I'm not even saying that I agree with any stereotype. And I definitely don't agree that all are what the stereotype says. But they are what they are. I still say it's up to the individual to prove they are not the stereotype.
 
Turtle

Turtle

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xiggi said:
I do not see the term Hispanics as PC, a good number of those crossing our southern border are from other parts of South America not just Mexico.
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Correct. And it's quite literally politically correct to call them Hispanics, rather than lump all of them into Mexican. It was a joke, as many people think all people who look Mexican are from Mexico. But the term is a PC term, at least in how it is generally used in the US. People don't get bent out of shape about Hispanics and Latinos (latinoamericano) coming here illegally as they do about them ****ed Mexicans.

The term Hispanic originally referred to Hispania (the Latin word for Spain), which was the Iberian Peninsula (Spain, Portugal, Andorra, and Gibraltar), but later became synonymous with the people and cultures formerly ruled by the Spanish Empire, known as Hispanic America, which is most of Central and South America, Cuba, the Greater Antilles and Mexico.

Latin America refers to the region of the Americas where the Romance Languages, particularly Spanish, Portuguese and French (the languages derived from Latin) are primarily spoken. In the US, the term "Latin America" refers to everything in the Americas south of the Rio Grand, more or less, including English speaking countries like Belize, Jamaica, Dominica, Granada, and Dutch speaking countries like Aruba and Suriname, and the French speaking countries of Haiti and Martinique among many others. No one ever uses it that way, but technically Quebec is part of Latin America, because of it's French Romance Language dominance. The term Latin American is most preferred by Hispanics in the western United States.

Latin America and Hispanic America are generally used interchangeably, but there are important distinctions. A native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning.

The whole Latino/Hispanic became a "politically correct" term when it became a cultural identity distinction during the 1970s back when "Roots" hit the bookshelves and televisions and getting back to your cultural roots was all the rage. The US government adopted the very-much politically-correct term in in the 70s thanks to Nixon, and the US Census Bureau first started using the term in 1980. The 2000 Census asked if the person was "Spanish/Hispanic/Latino".

But here's where the rubber meets the road insofar as political correctness... The US Office of Management and Budget defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race". The US Department of Transportation defines Hispanic to include, "persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race." This DOT definition has been adopted by the Small Business Administration as well as many federal, state, and municipal agencies for the purposes of awarding government contracts to minority owned businesses.

Still, other government agencies adopt definitions that exclude people from Spain, since there is a distinct ethnic difference (indigenous American or European American). Some others include people from Brazil, but not Spain or Portugal.

The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission encourages any individual who believes that he or she is Hispanic according to the US Office of Management and Budget (any Spanish culture or origin) to self-identify as Hispanic. The US Department of Labor - Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs encourages the same self-identification.

As a result, any individual who traces his or her origins to part of the Spanish Empire may self-identify as Hispanic, because an employer may not override an individual's self-identification.

The term Hispanic is most definitely a politically correct term albeit often at the same time a culturally and geographically correct term, as well.
 
tbubster

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
can some one please explain this to me !

so a car gets pulled overfor speeding.officer walks up to window driver looks dark skined.officer ask driver for his license,driver looks at offcier and starts speaking in spanish.the two can not understand each other so the officer calls for a translator.translator shows up and explains to the driver whats going on.driver tell him he speaks no english has no license and no other form of ID.so can some one please explain how it would be racist for the translator to ask if driver is here legally and ask for his green card?

as far as the blacks not being able to afford a good lawyer.is it the white guys fault he has the money to pay for a good lawyer.and not a lawyer that is paid for with the taxes we pay.because yes they tell you if you can not afford a lawyer one will be provided for you.not all the work they do is free.there is a lot that has to be paid for.never mind the fact they are the ones who were out doing what the got caught doing and sent to jail for.

last week in spartanburg city s.c there was a fight at a club it seems a black man was turned away from the club because the clothes he was wearing were against the dress code for the club.so this young man called his dad who is a city councilman and tells him they are not letting blacks in.so dad shows up and starts yelling that the club is racial profiling,when the owner got in his face and said im not a racist dad started pushing and swinging.then the son comes running in swinging.the security gaurds tossed both father and son out.they went back in to fight some more.so cops show up and and the councilman starts telling the cops you need to shut this place down you work for me you need to shut this place down.so they they take the son to jail.in the mean time the owner is upset with the cops for not taking the councilman to jail to.even though the police watched the fight on the security tapes and it clearly showed the councilman throwing the first punches.now you listen to the club owner and he says he has security tapes of other nights and of that night with blacks being allowed in the club.just they have a dress code that says no saggy pants around the butt.so here we have a trusted councilman and his son both screaming racism because the son did not like the fact he was not allowed to do something he wanted to do.all the time knowing the trouble it would cause the club.all the while not knowing the club owner has video proof otherwise.when someone crys racism just because they dont get what they want it starts to take away from the meaning of the word racism!!!!

my point is just because a non white yells racism does not make it true.so just because a guy could not afford a good lawyer and does not get a good deal does not make it racism.there are many a white man that could not afford a good lawyer and did not get a good deal either.so if the prison pop is made up of 53% of blacks then i say 53% did the crime.and I dont feel bad because some of them could not afford a good lawyer.maybe they should of put some of that drug money away instead of buying 3000 dollars worth of spinning rims to go on a 500 dollar car.:eek:
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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They sure have a lot of resources it seems to do the job...

Now IF we could dry up the source of jobs HERE...
 
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