East coast port strike could threaten Economy

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
At least it is just the East Coast ports. If a strike closed the West Coast ports, Wal-Mart would be forced to close its doors. White Trash Americans would go ballistic and I wouldn't have a place to park or shop.

That would put china in the red along with walmart You go Fur Face!!!
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
These guys are earning what an expeditor earns in a cargo van. Life is good on the docks.
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The alliance says that, including the royalties, the longshoremen earn $124,000 a year on average in wages and benefits. Union officials say those figures are misleading and put average annual wages at $75,000 before benefits — still far more than most union members earn.

The container payments were created in the 1960s to compensate the longshoremen as ports embraced automation and the use of standardized, 40-foot-long containers to ship goods. That caused a big decrease in jobs and working hours. Employment of longshoremen in the Port of New York and New Jersey has dropped to 3,500 from 35,000 in the 1960s. ** I hate that,50+ years have passed, get over it*******

The shipping companies see the royalty payments as a relic of decades past, while the union still sees them as a core part of wages and as an important way to share productivity gains with members. **** Like tips in a bar, geessss****** oh, I get it,,,Entitlement stuff....right..

The dockworkers union is digging in on the issue. *** Like a foxhole??

“We have repeatedly asked them to leave this item alone,” said Harold J. Daggett, the union’s president.

Last week, a federal mediator asked the two sides to extend their contract until Feb. 1. But Mr. Daggett ruled out an extension unless USMX dropped its demands on the royalty payments.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
These guys are earning what an expeditor earns in a cargo van. Life is good on the docks.
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The alliance says that, including the royalties, the longshoremen earn $124,000 a year on average in wages and benefits. Union officials say those figures are misleading and put average annual wages at $75,000 before benefits — still far more than most union members earn.

The container payments were created in the 1960s to compensate the longshoremen as ports embraced automation and the use of standardized, 40-foot-long containers to ship goods. That caused a big decrease in jobs and working hours. Employment of longshoremen in the Port of New York and New Jersey has dropped to 3,500 from 35,000 in the 1960s. ** I hate that,50+ years have passed, get over it*******

The shipping companies see the royalty payments as a relic of decades past, while the union still sees them as a core part of wages and as an important way to share productivity gains with members. **** Like tips in a bar, geessss****** oh, I get it,,,Entitlement stuff....right..

The dockworkers union is digging in on the issue. *** Like a foxhole??

“We have repeatedly asked them to leave this item alone,” said Harold J. Daggett, the union’s president.

Last week, a federal mediator asked the two sides to extend their contract until Feb. 1. But Mr. Daggett ruled out an extension unless USMX dropped its demands on the royalty payments.

How do you get to entitlement stuff?....DOH?.....These perks were negotiated on and given to the dock workers in past agreements.....

But it appears almost like piecework payments as well....the more containers handled the more the pay....IE.... work harder get paid more....sounds good.

BTW...that even isn't close to what a CV driver makes...
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
How do you get to entitlement stuff?....DOH?.....These perks were negotiated on and given to the dock workers in past agreements.....

But it appears almost like piecework payments as well....the more containers handled the more the pay....IE.... work harder get paid more....sounds good.

BTW...that even isn't close to what a CV driver makes...

I highly doubt they are working harder. Modern methods most likely made the work easier. Freight used to be packed on the ships to be unloaded. Now it is in containers to be hooked up and lifted then placed on trailers.

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I highly doubt they are working harder. Modern methods most likely made the work easier. Freight used to be packed on the ships to be unloaded. Now it is in containers to be hooked up and lifted then placed on trailers.

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Overhead crane operators wages are high...like heavy equipment operators...
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
a good crane operator will make a company a lot of money and move them ships in and out...that is where the money is...and without killing or injuring anyone...

I have watched a show on those ports they don't waste anytime for sure.

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
In my other life one occupation for a short time was....wait for it.....

A Hooker........job description...chase after crane, spot for him and connect object...LOL
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
In my other life one occupation for a short time was....wait for it.....

A Hooker........job description...chase after crane, spot for him and connect object...LOL

Ragman no picture please. :)

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