Don't Leave Home Without It
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So, you pull out an Atlas and do the city to city routing, and not until you get to the destination city do you pull over, turn your laptop on, and plug in the address for the final destination into the GPS?
mjolnir131
Veteran Expediter
a gps is not going to help somebody who is barely bright enough to read a map, it's called gigo (garbage in garbage out). and there are alot of times the longer route is the faster one,you just have to deside if that 30 extra miles is worth the 17-18 bucks it costs. 15 miles threw the heart of town is way longer time wise that 25 miles around on the by pass, unless of course it's 5 pm rush hour then neither is going to move very fast.
the deer thing borders on Reductio ad absurdum, but will note that there is considental evadance that those whistels may increase deer/car colitions with the other guy,the startled deer running from your vehicle runs into the path of an on coming car or truck.
computers will only give you what you ask for,and if your asking the wrong question,you'll get the wrong awnser.
the deer thing borders on Reductio ad absurdum, but will note that there is considental evadance that those whistels may increase deer/car colitions with the other guy,the startled deer running from your vehicle runs into the path of an on coming car or truck.
computers will only give you what you ask for,and if your asking the wrong question,you'll get the wrong awnser.
Experienced drivers will know the best routes without a GPS and will use it as others have said - to get to the address for final delivery . I don't rely on directions over the phone . Many of those on the other end of the line live within their own little world within a 20 mile radius of the business and don't even know how to get to the interstate . A preferable GPS will be programmed to account for hazmat and other truck restrictions and give up to the minute reports on construction and traffic delays . My wife loves her GPS for her POV . It has taught her a lot of shorter routes to save gas . I don't have a GPS in the truck . I just go by experience and the CB . Her GPS isn't infallible . It has run us into deadends and tried to put us off the interstate for a few miles just to shorten the distance by running on a 2 lane .
CharlesD
Expert Expediter
Not exactly. I plug it in there when I set out, but I just figure out my route with the atlas to get from one city to the other. I will plot out different routes on the computer to get the mileage as well if it's a route I haven't taken before and I want to compare. The address is plugged into the laptop but I don't pay much attention to it until I'm close to that city. Then when I'm on my last fuel stop I'll read over the turns a couple times and try to memorize them. I have an FM transmitter on the computer and when I get close I will turn that on and let it talk to me through the stereo, especially at night when you can't see the signs that well.
For the Streets and Trips users, downloading the construction updates is a good idea. That's saved me a bit of time avoiding some areas.
dhalltoyo
Veteran Expediter
Phil,
It is the same as conversing with someone in truck seated adjacent to you. I guess you'll tell us that you have never been talking with someone in the truck and missed a turn.
Missing a turn is not an everyday occurrence; considering the number of miles and hours I have logged behind the wheel.
And I do not yammer. I speak clearly and distinctly.
Interesting, you do not know me, nor do you have one iota of knowledge regarding my driving abilities or history.
Since you did not have the courtesy to ask, I have 42 years behind the wheel; no tickets and no accidents. I have always had a “Preferred Safe Driver” discounted rate. Please contact my insurance agent if clarification is necessary.
Fairly supercilious of you to preclude that I would be the cause of an accident that would result in the injury or death of another person and missing an occasional exit while holding a meaningful conversation with another human being is not a precursor to having an accident that results in loss of life. Obviously there are folks who should never engage in any additional activities while driving; my lovely wife happens to be such a person. She takes no offense to the reality of her personal abilities; hence, she has chosen not to drive at all.
As former member of the Armed Forces, I can tell you that pilots receive numerous verbal communications while engaged in high speed maneuvers; hence, processing information while in control of a vehicle, or tank, or airplane, etc, is commonplace.
Starts and stops. Yep! I love em’. I drive very, very slowly. I enjoy the day. The GPS also calculates my ETA and if I stop to enjoy God’s handiwork, I can check the ETA to adjust my rate of progress accordingly. I consider every aspect of the route based upon the information gathered from multiple sources. Had you truly been reading my posts for the past two years that should have been apparent and your brusque comments would not have been necessary.
It is the same as conversing with someone in truck seated adjacent to you. I guess you'll tell us that you have never been talking with someone in the truck and missed a turn.
Missing a turn is not an everyday occurrence; considering the number of miles and hours I have logged behind the wheel.
And I do not yammer. I speak clearly and distinctly.
Interesting, you do not know me, nor do you have one iota of knowledge regarding my driving abilities or history.
Since you did not have the courtesy to ask, I have 42 years behind the wheel; no tickets and no accidents. I have always had a “Preferred Safe Driver” discounted rate. Please contact my insurance agent if clarification is necessary.
Fairly supercilious of you to preclude that I would be the cause of an accident that would result in the injury or death of another person and missing an occasional exit while holding a meaningful conversation with another human being is not a precursor to having an accident that results in loss of life. Obviously there are folks who should never engage in any additional activities while driving; my lovely wife happens to be such a person. She takes no offense to the reality of her personal abilities; hence, she has chosen not to drive at all.
As former member of the Armed Forces, I can tell you that pilots receive numerous verbal communications while engaged in high speed maneuvers; hence, processing information while in control of a vehicle, or tank, or airplane, etc, is commonplace.
Starts and stops. Yep! I love em’. I drive very, very slowly. I enjoy the day. The GPS also calculates my ETA and if I stop to enjoy God’s handiwork, I can check the ETA to adjust my rate of progress accordingly. I consider every aspect of the route based upon the information gathered from multiple sources. Had you truly been reading my posts for the past two years that should have been apparent and your brusque comments would not have been necessary.
There is a growing body of research that demonstrates people talking on cell phones while driving are as much a hazard on the road as drunk drivers. Both are equally distracted. That is true of people using hand-held or hands-free cell phone devices.
For that reason, I limit my behind-the-wheel cell phone conversations to near zero and urge all drivers to do the same. Granted, as a team driver, it is easier to manage cell phone calls. When I am driving, Diane answers the phone. Still, for solo and team drivers, talking on the cell phone increases your risk of having an accident.
It is not the same as having a conversation with a person seated in the truck with you. People who know about this stuff say the brain is engaged in a different way and talking on the phone is more distracting than conversing in person.
Like the bumper sticker says, "Hang up and drive."
Here are links to some of many articles/papers/studies that now address this topic:
http://www.psych.utah.edu/AppliedCognitionLab/cdir.pdf
"ABSTRACT—Our research examined the effects of handsfree
cell-phone conversations on simulated driving. We
found that even when participants looked directly at objects
in the driving environment, they were less likely to
create a durable memory of those objects if they were conversing
on a cell phone. This pattern was obtained for
objects of both high and low relevance, suggesting that very
little semantic analysis of the objects occurs outside the
restricted focus of attention. Moreover, in-vehicle conversations
do not interfere with driving as much as cell-phone
conversations do, because drivers are better able to
synchronize the processing demands of driving with invehicle
conversations than with cell-phone conversations.
Together, these data support an inattention-blindness
interpretation wherein the disruptive effects of cell-phone
conversations on driving are due in large part to the diversion
of attention from driving to the phone conversation."
Study: Talkers as Bad as Drinkers
"People who talk on cell phones while driving, even using "hands-free" devices, are as impaired as drunk drivers, researchers said on Thursday.
'If legislators really want to address driver distraction, then they should consider outlawing cell phone use while driving,' said Frank Drews, an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Utah who worked on the study."
Cell phone car accidents:
Cell Phone Car Accidents: Driver Distraction, Auto Driving, Photos, Pictures: Cell Phone User Car Crashes from Car-Accidents.com
A page containing a number of links to a number of reports regarding cell phone distracted drivers and the risks they pose:
News: Driver Distractions
Excerpt from one of them, emphasis mine:
"Washington, D.C. �' The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) released new research concluding that drivers using mobile phones are four times more likely to get into crashes serious enough to injure themselves. IIHS also indicated that hands-free equipment did not reduce chances of injury to drivers. This research, along with other recent studies from the University of Utah and Virginia Tech University, all have similar findings which should impact our public policy discussion about ‘dialing and driving.’ The message is clear: Drivers should not use ANY type of cell phone behind the wheel."
For that reason, I limit my behind-the-wheel cell phone conversations to near zero and urge all drivers to do the same. Granted, as a team driver, it is easier to manage cell phone calls. When I am driving, Diane answers the phone. Still, for solo and team drivers, talking on the cell phone increases your risk of having an accident.
It is not the same as having a conversation with a person seated in the truck with you. People who know about this stuff say the brain is engaged in a different way and talking on the phone is more distracting than conversing in person.
Like the bumper sticker says, "Hang up and drive."
Here are links to some of many articles/papers/studies that now address this topic:
http://www.psych.utah.edu/AppliedCognitionLab/cdir.pdf
"ABSTRACT—Our research examined the effects of handsfree
cell-phone conversations on simulated driving. We
found that even when participants looked directly at objects
in the driving environment, they were less likely to
create a durable memory of those objects if they were conversing
on a cell phone. This pattern was obtained for
objects of both high and low relevance, suggesting that very
little semantic analysis of the objects occurs outside the
restricted focus of attention. Moreover, in-vehicle conversations
do not interfere with driving as much as cell-phone
conversations do, because drivers are better able to
synchronize the processing demands of driving with invehicle
conversations than with cell-phone conversations.
Together, these data support an inattention-blindness
interpretation wherein the disruptive effects of cell-phone
conversations on driving are due in large part to the diversion
of attention from driving to the phone conversation."
Study: Talkers as Bad as Drinkers
"People who talk on cell phones while driving, even using "hands-free" devices, are as impaired as drunk drivers, researchers said on Thursday.
'If legislators really want to address driver distraction, then they should consider outlawing cell phone use while driving,' said Frank Drews, an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Utah who worked on the study."
Cell phone car accidents:
Cell Phone Car Accidents: Driver Distraction, Auto Driving, Photos, Pictures: Cell Phone User Car Crashes from Car-Accidents.com
A page containing a number of links to a number of reports regarding cell phone distracted drivers and the risks they pose:
News: Driver Distractions
Excerpt from one of them, emphasis mine:
"Washington, D.C. �' The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) released new research concluding that drivers using mobile phones are four times more likely to get into crashes serious enough to injure themselves. IIHS also indicated that hands-free equipment did not reduce chances of injury to drivers. This research, along with other recent studies from the University of Utah and Virginia Tech University, all have similar findings which should impact our public policy discussion about ‘dialing and driving.’ The message is clear: Drivers should not use ANY type of cell phone behind the wheel."
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P51bombay
Expert Expediter
Here is an interesting twist to cell phones, driving and the baning thereof. As of July 1st it is now illegal (secondary) in WA state to even hold a phone will driving. Last week I come out of Canada headed for my first drop to Fedex less than one mile over the border. I get to the street I need to turn at, a mostly industrial area behind the grocery store and when I go to make the turn I find a car (BC plates) stopped precisely half way through the corner and the driver is talking on his phone. Its nice he was aware of the new law and complying with it but apparently he'd used up what mental capacity he had in just pulling over and couldn't manage pulling over to a SAFE place. A little toot of the air horn as I went around and I look back to see him pull forward a few feet where he was blocking the bank driveway - oh well.