Donald Trump to run for President 2012??

bobwg

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Fox news interview with Donald Trump he says he is thinking about running for President in 2012 as a Republican. I think he might be good Pres but need to see if he is one of those Liberal Republicans/middle of the road or conservative. and who else is going to run in the primary
 

layoutshooter

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Fox news interview with Donald Trump he says he is thinking about running for President in 2012 as a Republican. I think he might be good Pres but need to see if he is one of those Liberal Republicans/middle of the road or conservative. and who else is going to run in the primary


Another wack job, and with bad hair to boot!!
 

greg334

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I think Steele will jump at the chance to have the Don run for president, it will bring more TV style hype to politics.
 

layoutshooter

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I think Steele will jump at the chance to have the Don run for president, it will bring more TV style hype to politics.


Just what we need, more Tommy Ivo stuff. All show, no go. Steele is a idiot. He is one of the BIGGER reasons that the Tea Party is doing so well.
 

greg334

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The only defense I can offer about steele is he wants to get rid of the elites within the party which is in align with the TP people.
 

layoutshooter

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The only defense I can offer about steele is he wants to get rid of the elites within the party which is in align with the TP people.


I guess. I don't see it happening. All I see from the ReBumLicans is the same old loser, retread candidates. I seen them backing incumbents for the most part in the primaries. Sounds like Steele may just be talking out of both sides of his face.
 

greg334

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He came out and said he could not control a lot of the party because of the good ol' boys attitude that was within the party. I have to agree with him and one reason I think Palin would be good for the party is the fact that she will push a lot of the dead wood out of the party by her presence.
 

Moot

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And his vice president will be Ross Perot:eek::D
No, Rod Blagojevich who will help broaden Trump's base by attracting Democrats.



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ATeam

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Fox news interview with Donald Trump he says he is thinking about running for President in 2012 as a Republican. I think he might be good Pres but need to see if he is one of those Liberal Republicans/middle of the road or conservative. and who else is going to run in the primary

Trump would be less conservative than the "true believer" Republican conservatives would like.

I don't know "The Donald" well but he hired me and I worked briefly as his internet guy when he ran a Trump for President exploratory campaign in 1999. In the meetings we had with him, he was more of a centrist than a right-winger. He prefers to get things done over being politically correct in the eyes of the far left or right.
 
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layoutshooter

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Does he have ANY experience in military matters? If not I would be concerned. He seems to want things HIS way and HIS way only. I wonder if he would listen to advisors with more experience in that field. We have just had far too many with either no experience or who just won't pay attention to those who advise them. We don't need another "boss" in that office.
 

layoutshooter

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Does he have ANY experience in military matters? If not I would be concerned. He seems to want things HIS way and HIS way only. I wonder if he would listen to advisors with more experience in that field. We have just had far too many with either no experience or who just won't pay attention to those who advise them. We don't need another "boss" in that office.
 

LDB

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He won't win the republican nomination and we certainly don't want him running as an independent and thereby handing Obama another term which is what will happen.
 

layoutshooter

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He won't win the republican nomination and we certainly don't want him running as an independent and thereby handing Obama another term which is what will happen.


The dems will pay him to run. He would do it too. Money hungry.
 

greg334

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Does he have ANY experience in military matters? If not I would be concerned.

Why?

You do not need a president who has military experience to actually govern. I would expect them to respect it as a part of his job but don't need to have experience with it.

It seems that is a secondary issue to bigger and more important issues we all face.
 

layoutshooter

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Why?

You do not need a president who has military experience to actually govern. I would expect them to respect it as a part of his job but don't need to have experience with it.

It seems that is a secondary issue to bigger and more important issues we all face.


The military is the PRIMARY duty of the president. The rest of these problems are the primary duty of the congress. I could live with a CnC who have little to no experience IF that person had the brains to listen to and take the advice offered. I doubt if Trump is that type of person. Far too many have NOT listened and that has greatly contributed to the problems we face. (military type problems)
 

greg334

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The military is the PRIMARY duty of the president.

No NO NO NO NO NO ... WRONG.

The primary duty of the president is not the military based on the Constitution, that charges him with the responsibility of running the executive branch of the government.

He is the Commander In Chief, not the General of the Army (kind of a difference), and as a civilian, his job is to keep control of the military and make sure it is always under civilian control.

His primary job is to govern the executive branch which includes being part of the legislative process, being the head of the government (and its workers) and to represent the country to foreign powers and the world among a lot of other little things. His military respoinsiblities are to order the deploying of troops when needed, to ensure our country has a viable military (that is a common sense responsibility) and to make sure our military follows the laws of the civilian world and the Constitution. You may notice that I did not include declare war under military obligations because that is not a military obligation but a foreign affairs one.

Military experience is not a requirement nor should ever ever be. A lot of people who didn't serve seem to have enough ethics and understanding of the government to govern.

The military is an important part of the country's defense but not of society, and that was the way it was intended. Just because a few think it should be, miss a lot of reasons why we split from England during the 18th century.

We should look past our need to have presidents who are field commanders, get rid of the notion that they need to know what this or that battle field theory does, but rather demand that our president actually moves the country forward.

Our society is at fault for a lot of things, one thing that we fail on is recognizing that our military is fighting a war, and that we don't understand that war in so much as we can't understand the enemy. That is the fault of our government as a whole, not a president who never served but everyone from Congress to the courts to the president.

After discussing trump last night, a few of us came to this conclusion;

He is an idiot.

He got his money not by being smart but being arrogant and having no ethics.

He is a person who prefers the spotlight and after two rock star presidents, we need someone who will take the job seriously.

If the republican party even considers him as a viable candidate, then the party is lost.

He really does not stand on anything and he compromises his principles too easily.
 

layoutshooter

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Ok, I see your points. I can go along with that. ALL of them, including the part about Trump being an idiot. He has NO business in the office of president. I still would personally prefer someone who has first hand experience with military matters.
 

greg334

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What I am concern about is not the experience but the affiliation issue. A lot of former military generals and others end up in defense industry, not because they can provide an insight to say technology but because of their connections to the military which is used to shape military policy through the congress.

Let me ask you this.

Can you see any problems that someone like a pro-military president can have with our government as it is today?
 
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