does your carrier have to pay for the load offered

[hondaking38]

ok this is the first ive had this happen..got a load offer over qc bucyrus ohio to peoria illinois shows 424 miles on offer (actually its 435 by the gps.. however i see when i get on the owners site its only paying 373 miles...which is a loss of 50.00 does a carrier have to pay the load offer miles which i accepted ?? or is this just a scam to rip off another driver??

 

[terryandrene]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

The answer to that question should lie with the lease agreement you have with your carrier. The terms and method of payment are a requirement to which you and the carrier must agree. Practical miles, Household Goods miles, actual miles, zip code to zip code miles, Rand MacNally miles are some of the ways on which tariffs are computed. An owner should get to know their carrier's method.

In the past, we've seen carriers that give the owner a list of the pay schedules for each of their customers and the owners were offered a run by getting the name of the customer and the miles to the delivery. This method of guesstimating run pay was the source of many driver complaints.

It looks like HondaKing's carrier pays a flat rate to the truck but is using fuzzy math to get the run covered. It might serve you best if you ask for the actual run pay for each and every run at the time of the run offer. If they claim they can't give you that information, I'd be suspect of their motives. They sure don't their customer "Don't worry, we'll tell you what you owe us later."

 

[LDB]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

This is one of the main reasons I have the SMS load offers from Panther. I have a copy of exactly what was sent over the QC in my phone. Even if it's been long enough the QC message has gone away due to age or new messages pushing out the old ones I can still see and prove what was sent over the QC. A bunch of people were posting negatively against it and failing to see the insurance value it offers in getting correct settlements. 51 miles of loaded pay plus fsc may not pay for a full year of SMS service but combined with the one extra load a year you get when dispatch ignores your notes "on pager 30 minutes from truck" and only sends it to the QC and then takes you off for no response rather than calling you it will pay for a few years service.

As already stated, you'd have to see what your contract says. I've been screwed on the fsc where they paid far less than the QC said. The lame excuse was that was all the customer paid. Well, too bad for them. If they say it in the QC they should suck it up and pay it even if it's out of the company coffers. I was told that unlike mileage it's only an estimate. We didn't have a long discussion about mileage but the implication was they will pay the miles shown on the QC no matter what but the fsc could be anything. They pulled out lame #237 that often the fsc is higher than stated on the QC. That is true the majority of the time but only by 0.xx cents per mile. If it is over or short less than a penny a mile I don't worry about it. It averages out in the long run. When it's short by .17cpm then there's a problem.

Basically, it boils down to every carrier is nothing without the drivers. They produce nothing. The drivers produce everything. Unfortunately for the drivers, the pool of available suckers to replace them is exponentially greater than the pool of drivers with any given company. Since they know there are a dozen who will jump into any one empty slot they can screw the drivers any way they want to. You have to use all the tools available to you to guard your back. Having your own copy of what was sent over the QC is one of them.

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[Robsdad]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

Screw me once- Thier fault
Screw me twice- My fault
In my case they only got once.
Not into company bashing so I will leave it at that.
Move'n on.

 

[grog111]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

I know that pc miler is one of the more widely accepted mile calculators, heck, it's even written into my current contract. I know John O and a couple other fellows run copilot 9. Maybe one of those guy's could run it through thier system and see what they get? It would'nt hurt to show the people in payroll your results, however, whenever i question mileage or FSC. i usually get this response..,(as he shrug's and shakes his head), "That's all the customer was paying....Would you rather just sit and make nothing....at least you're running". I think that's the over-all strategy. They exasperate you to the point where you just no longer have the energy to argue. With anything. Ever. And one day you wake up and you're wearing a barrel. With red white and blue suspenders.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

I know what you're saying, Grog. It gets to the point where you don't want to nitpick about this HUNDRED DOLLARS or that HUNDRED DOLLARS. "Would you rather sit and make nothing?" No, dear... I'd rather have your head on a pike. But that ain't gonna happen, so I'll take the load. I know... a bit morbid. :7

Like I said in another post in another thread (that got sidetracked into a religious debate), if the company gets to the point where they can't lower rates anymore, the money has to come from somewhere. And guess where that is? Consistant 20-30 miles trimmed off the load, correct dh not paid, shorted on accessorials, etc. I see and hear of it happening more the tighter the industry is getting. And the pissy attitude like they're doing US a favor???

This isn't "negative talk" here, this is big kid stuff. If you owned a bar, wouldn't you be pizzed if the bartender was skimming the till? It's a common event in expediting. Personally, I know what I'm gonna do about it, eventually. But my solution isn't for everybody out there. Just tired of getting whizzed on and being told it's raining.

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[ATeam]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

As FedEx Custom Critical contractors since 2003, Diane and I have had virtually zero complaints about getting paid for all miles driven. On occasion, the pay has come up short on certain HAZMAT loads require us to take a longer bypass around a city, instead of taking the shorter route through a city on which the original run pay is calculated. A simple call to dispatch is all it has taken to immediately adjust the pay in our favor.

 

[Rollo]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

>This isn't "negative talk" here, this is big kid stuff. If
>you owned a bar, wouldn't you be pizzed if the bartender was
>skimming the till? It's a common event in expediting.
>Personally, I know what I'm gonna do about it, eventually.
>But my solution isn't for everybody out there. Just tired of
>getting whizzed on and being told it's raining.
>
>-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[nightcreacher]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

its not whether the miles are right,did the pay change,if pay didnt change then dont worry about the miles,just tell dispatch when your late,the load went 100 miles farther than was paid

 

[davekc]

RE: does your carrier have to pay for the load off

its not whether the miles are right,did the pay change,if pay didnt change then dont worry about the miles,just tell dispatch when your late,the load went 100 miles farther than was paid
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That would pretty much be my take. If there is a question at the load offer or later, I would call to get it corrected, or we just ask for a flat rate. As mentioned, we get one or two a year like that, and have never had a problem getting it corrected.









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