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layoutshooter

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Au contraire: by posting it, you invite the opinion of whomever chooses to respond, because that's what it's all about. You are free to respond to my comment, or ignore it, but you may not tell me [in so many words] to shut up.
Even for a 'limited' moderator, that's a pretty childish response.
If you can't handle disagreement or criticism, you need to find a site where everyone agrees with you all the time.
Or just put me on your 'ignore' list - the one for folks who don't wanna hear what they don't agree with.


First off, I am no longer a "limited" mod. I am a "full" mod. I did not tell you to shut up, I just posted what I thought. Believe me, I can and have handled far more than you could ever dish out. This is just cyberspace. You can say whatever you want, within limits set by the owners of this site, as can I. By the way I have NO ignore list. You really should see about having the burr removed from you saddle. It has to hurt a lot by now.
I don't answer to you, don't expect me to act like I do.
 

cheri1122

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First off, I am no longer a "limited" mod. I am a "full" mod. I did not tell you to shut up,
"I didn't ask for your opinion" sounds like "shut up" to me, and to anyone with an IQ higher than room temp. You just cannot defend your words, so you attack instead.
I just posted what I thought. Believe me, I can and have handled far more than you could ever dish out.
By saying "Shut up" I bet - impressive. [Not] And BTW: you don't want to assume what I can dish out, either.
This is just cyberspace. You can say whatever you want, within limits set by the owners of this site, as can I. By the way I have NO ignore list. You really should see about having the burr removed from you saddle. It has to hurt a lot by now.
The "burr" is one I hope NEVER goes away, as it's caused by statements that the OP can't or won't defend, and endless repetition of the same old stupid crap. [IE: "burr under your saddle" - where have I heard that before? Oh yes: right here. About 97 times in the past year.]
I don't answer to you, don't expect me to act like I do.
I expect you to answer to all of the members, defending whatever remarks/statements/opinions you post that get questioned or challenged, same as everyone else. [Another straw man argument!]
If you can't respond to criticism or questions, in a reasoned voice, you have no business being any kind of moderator, IMO.

 

greg334

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Well getting back to Leo there, I am thinking that he should have started this thread a bit sooner.

Who watches 24?
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
Can't tell you. I can only say I don't watch 24. I don't care for Sutherland too much so I've never watched it.
 

chefdennis

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never seen it......i don't even know what network it is on....or when it is on.... or what it is about for the most part....
 

jaminjim

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Fox TV 21:00 Mondays.

Main Character is JACK BAUER.

I watched the first and second episodes when it first came out. It is a very fast paced show. Each week they take you thru one hour in the day where Jack usually will have the following things happen to him personally; He will be shot, stabbed, run over by a truck or car, or both. He will have jumped onto the skid of a helicopter and normally kill the pilot and fly the chopper to safety, while simultaneously pound the snot out of a terrorists brother, that blew up a major U.S. City. Well I don't really have time to write the last fifty-five minutes of the one hour show, but he really picks it up during the last half of the show.
 

iceroadtrucker

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Bull Crunch!!!!!!!!!!

Here is something for you to kick around.

You need to Ask JEM Haworth from Fort Worth Area of Texas Why he supports Texas Legislator in Wanting to succeed from the Union of the United States.

What is up with those clowns down there??
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Ya know the way the US is set-up...the way the powers are distributed..it was perfect up to that point...NO State should have given up there secession rights...it swings the power to the Feds....the federal arm twisting that goes on because the states have no real say OR alternative or can be a viable threat to the federal government.
 
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jaminjim

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Ya know the way the US is set-up...the way the powers are distributed..it was perfect up to that point...NO State should have given up there secession rights...it swings the power to the Feds....the federal arm twisting that goes on because the states have no real say OR alternative or can be a viable threat to the federal government.

The States did not give up their right to secede. Although there is some debate, they were never specifically granted, therefore that can't really be taken away.
 

aristotle

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The States did not give up their right to secede. Although there is some debate, they were never specifically granted, therefore that can't really be taken away.
These United States are held together by threat of force by the Federal government. If even one state tried to form a breakaway republic, the Feds know an avalanche of wannabe independent states would follow suit. It is entirely conceivable at some point ... political critical mass will be reached, resulting in separatist movements springing up in several states simultaneously or in rapid succession. Regional alliances would be formed. I do not advocate separatist aspirations. I do understand the yearning to be free of the oppressive Federal government in DC. Since we Americans aren't leaving our homeland, it will ultimately be the Federal government that has to go.
 

cheri1122

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Correct me if I'm wrong [like you wouldn't!:p] but didn't Texas once declare itself a sovereign republic, and announce that the rest of the United States could dam well secede from them? [An attitude that many Texans still maintain, I might add.]
Reminds me of the water tower that says "Deport Texas" - without the comma, I thought it was a suggestion, and wondered if Mexico would take it back.....:D
 

Turtle

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The term "six flags over Texas" came not from an amusement park, but from the various nations that has ruled over the territory of Texas. Spain was the first European country to claim the area of Texas, which ruled most of Texas from 1519 to 1685, and then again from 1690 to 1821.

France held rule with a short-lived colony in Texas from 1685 to 1690, before Spain took it back after the murder of the French founder of Fort Saint Louis on the Gulf cost.

Next came Mexico, who got the area of Texas as a part of winning its independence from Spain. Mexico ruled over Texas from 1821 through 1836.

In 1836 Texas won its independence from Mexico and became the Republic of Texas.

In a deal that set off the Mexican-American War, Mexico agreeing to join the United States in exchange for its annexation, the Republic of Texas became the 28th State of These United States in 1845.

Texas declared its secession from the United States in early 1861, joining the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War.

So as recently as 1845 Texas was its own country. All during the history of Texas and the numerous flags that have flown above it, the native indigenous people traveled freely throughout the area, including back and forth across the future and present political boundaries. As recently as 75 years ago crossing the border was not much more involved than passing through a toll booth on the Ohio Turnpike. Now, to the people of Texas and northern Mexico, it's as if we suddenly need a passport to travel from Ohio to Indiana. Even today, Texas has an uneasy union with The Union.
 

jaminjim

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U.S. Supreme Court in the 1868 case of Texas v. White. This supposedly decided that a State can not secede from the Country. But it's far from 'airtight'.
 

chefdennis

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From my understanding and talking to people of texas, they still consider themselves to live ina Republic as is written in their State Constitution (i think it is more of what it doesn't say more then what it sayes) and have told the SC what they can do with their ruling...rick perry spoke to this last yr , more of just a policitical move to rally a base then to actually do anything, but it is brought up from time to time.....

And while all of this healthcare bs is going on with the feds, there are maybe 10-12 states pushing 10th ammendment issues and getting ready to tell the fed to stick their healthcare manidates.......

Those states band together as Aristotle pointed out, and it could get interesting.......
 
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jaminjim

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So somewhere on the web is a place that tells how much the states send to Washington and how much the feds send back to the states, anyone know what site that is? Just curious. Anyone?
 
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