Diesel pigs

Chevy Expresso

Rookie Expediter
I hate when people park there diesel up wind next to me and leve it running with there exhaust blowing into my van. Am I wrong to be made about that?

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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I hate when people park there diesel up wind next to me and leve it running with there exhaust blowing into my van. Am I wrong to be made about that?
It's hard to say whether you're right or wrong, as it depends on where you are parking. For example, if you are talking about parking at the movie theater, or the doctor's office, or the grocery store, then no, you're not wrong.

But if you're talking about parked at a truck stop, then getting mad when diesel exhaust finds its way into your van is about the same as being mad because you got wet while swimming, or being mad because you went to a bar and found a lot of people there drinking alcohol, or you went to a casino and were aghast that people were, uhm, you know, gambling.

If diesel exhaust is a problem, then a career in trucking might not be for you.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Or, try a cattle truck on one side and a refer truck that needs a muffler on the other. True story, happened to me in Waddy, KY one night.
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I missed that smell so much I piped it into my bedroom so I could get a good nights sleep. My tape player plays the sound of an idling Cummins with the occasional sounds of airbrakes locking in the night and oh yes the sound of someone knocking at my door asking for a date. Man that's truck'n.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I missed that smell so much I piped it into my bedroom so I could get a good nights sleep. My tape player plays the sound of an idling Cummins with the occasional sounds of airbrakes locking in the night and oh yes the sound of someone knocking at my door asking for a date. Man that's truck'n.

Don't forget that wonderful sound of some fool on the Jake Brake outside your truck in a parking lot at 3AM!
 

WanderngFool

Active Expediter
Closely related but not exactly the same as what you're saying OP.

I hate the sound of a truck idling when it's perfect sleeping weather. It's 11pm and 72 degrees with a forecast low of 65. Is the driver idling for heat? Is he idling for a/c when it's 72???

So why are they idling their trucks and sending money to Saudi Arabia where it gets funneled to El Qaeda to be used for targeting Americans? It seems wrong to me.

This is where we need to take a page from the Greatest Generation textbook. Sacrifice, as much as necessary to beat the enemy! It's very simple. We do what we have to do to continue to kick *** on the world's stage.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Most of our imported fuels come from Canada and Mexico. Arab oil is WAY down the list of places we import from.

In many cases they are idling to keep up battery power. Many use Cpap machines that need power. Also, it can be very unsafe to leave your windows open at trucks stops, I have know drivers to have things stolen out of their trucks when they did so.

Yes, there is a lot of unneeded idling, but not all is of that category. APU's are expensive and unreliable as well. It is not all that simple.
 

WanderngFool

Active Expediter
Global oil consumption helps to keep prices high and that benefits some countries that don't seem to like us a whole lot.

I hadn't considered cpap machines so I looked into how much power they need. CPAP On Batteries Even if it meant adding an extra battery to avoid idling when the weather is good, the money would be recouped in about 3 days.

Someone here posted pics of their Sprinter setup and I noticed they had an Engel fridge. No need to idle your vehicle to keep your food cold with a fridge like that.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Global oil consumption helps to keep prices high and that benefits some countries that don't seem to like us a whole lot.

I hadn't considered cpap machines so I looked into how much power they need. CPAP On Batteries Even if it meant adding an extra battery to avoid idling when the weather is good, the money would be recouped in about 3 days.

Someone here posted pics of their Sprinter setup and I noticed they had an Engel fridge. No need to idle your vehicle to keep your food cold with a fridge like that.

Don't forget the safety factor. Windows open, danger. Not to mention bugs and other critters that can get in.

There really is only two sure ways to insure safe, comfortable sleeping and maintain properly charged batteries and do it legally. An APU and/or shore power. In a van/sprinter that would mean a generator.

APU systems, with shore power, run about $11,000 installed. They are not nearly reliable as they should be. You can read old posts in here until you throw up and not read all the horror stories about problems with APU's. I am on my second. I always have them professionally serviced. The first did not ever pay for itself. It was in the shop for repairs too often. The second, brand new last year, has NEVER yet worked 100%. I have to take it back in, AGAIN, when I am home next time. Assuming I stay in the business long enough to wear this one out I doubt if it will pay for itself.

Yes, there is too much unneeded idling. It is just not as simple as some wish to make it out.

The ONLY reason we, as a nation, are not benefitting from oil prices/production etc is because we are not being allowed to develop the resources that we have, due almost 100% to the EPA. We have MORE than enough reserves to be free of ALL imported fuels, we are just not allowed to go after it. Plain and simple. One only has to look to the Dakota's to see what happens when development takes place.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I've been considering whether to get a generator, but even a reasonably small unit "big enough for the job" is a couple of thousand just for the unit itself. Then it has to be mounted, and you have to figure out power distribution. That doesn't even count getting a unit big enough to run an air conditioner. I can sleep in a whole lot of motel rooms before I recoup the cost on this idea.

Note: I reserve sleeping in a motel for the very roughest nights-- the nights where heat and humidity make sleeping in the van a real torture, or when extreme cold makes sleeping in the van a test of survival. Otherwise,-- even cheap motels get expensive rather fast.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I've been considering whether to get a generator, but even a reasonably small unit "big enough for the job" is a couple of thousand just for the unit itself. Then it has to be mounted, and you have to figure out power distribution. That doesn't even count getting a unit big enough to run an air conditioner. I can sleep in a whole lot of motel rooms before I recoup the cost on this idea.

Note: I reserve sleeping in a motel for the very roughest nights-- the nights where heat and humidity make sleeping in the van a real torture, or when extreme cold makes sleeping in the van a test of survival. Otherwise,-- even cheap motels get expensive rather fast.

I can stay in a LOT of motels for $11,000 dollars. It is not always practical. There is also the problem of battery charging etc at motels. As with everything there is no easy, one size fits all solution. There is also no inexpensive solution.
 

BillChaffey

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Navy
I would always try and find a corner as far away from the main building as I could. So my dogs could go out the back doors as they pleased. It never failed that sometime during the night someone would pull in next to us with a rig that would shut off & restart automatically all night or day long.
 
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