Democrat Pat Caddell: America is at a Pre-Revolutionary moment.

[layoutshooter]

The average life expectancy as recently as 1900 (not 1776) was about 47 years. The average Founding Father at age 43 would have been relatively old in light of these statistics. Other than George Washington, how many Founding Fathers actually took up arms in battle? The Founding Fathers were more of a spiritual impetus than fighting force. They were the gray-haired instigators of an earlier time.

While it is true that people did not live into their 90's on a regular basis, like now, it is also true that the GREATEST reason average ages SEEMED lower was NOT due to early death. It was mainly due to infant mortality. 40's were not out of the ordinary at all. They were not "gray-haired" with one foot in the grave. MANY were out in the field, fighting, killing off bad guys.

George was only the leader, there were people of all ages fighting.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Dream on. All the OWS duds are going to do is smoke dope, demand their freebies, poop in the parks, trash them and commit a few rapes.

The ranges are FULL. They have been for a VERY long time. They are being used by ALL ages, not just 'middle aged' LOTS of families out there too. The 'gun nuts' are mainstream and hard working and KNOW they are about to be attacked, both by law and force, by this administration. They are MORE than ready.

Try to buy a rifle right now. There are none to be had and there are year long, or longer, waiting lists. Ammo can't be found and range time is hard to get. Militias are starting to train again. Won't find any OWS bums there either.

And you know this because you've gone down to one of their protests? Or did you hear it on Fox? Do you even know who many of the people are from OWS?

 

[Tennesseahawk]

You can believe that if you like, I don't. Obama is NOT going after them. They are getting what they want, more freebies.

Obama is going after mainstream, hard working Americans, BIG TIME. HE INTENDS to make them criminals. He WILL attack, with extreme force. The first targets of the People? The media, take out Pravda first. Local cops are NOT, for the most part, going to join the administration, they will join with their neighbors. MILLIONS of well armed people who can shoot quite well cannot be stopped. Doper and drunks who are too lazy to work can be easily bought.

You're very myopic about the OWS crowd. There are many libertarians in that group. You know... the "give me liberty or give me death" crowd? The establishment has gone after them with force. Tho I don't agree with many of the crowd's intentions (some are indeed gimme goobers), I have to admire their tenacity. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[Turtle]

LOS doesn't watch Fox. He doesn't get any of his information from any of the state-owned media outlets - TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, the Internet, etc.. He gets it from the people who were there, and other sources that if he tells you he'd have to kill you.

 

[witness23]

A convenient truth.

 

[layoutshooter]

And you know this because you've gone down to one of their protests? Or did you hear it on Fox? Do you even know who many of the people are from OWS?

I know a few. Had one on my truck for several days. My no good for nuthin brother, his wife, his garden slug daughter and her "husband" (?) are big in the Detroit version of it.

I can almost bet you an Obama bone to a nickle that WHEN Obama tries to take out the Bill of Rights that there will not be 1 out of ever 10,000 of that bunch that stands up and fights.

 

[layoutshooter]

LOS doesn't watch Fox. He doesn't get any of his information from any of the state-owned media outlets - TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, the Internet, etc.. He gets it from the people who were there, and other sources that if he tells you he'd have to kill you.

Very funny, I no longer have but two and half sources in the military. Soon, none. They are ALL getting out due, in whole or in part, to the "conflict" Obama is causing in the ranks.

As to my news "sources" I have none I listen too in particular. None of them can be trusted. I hear, or see, mainly what happens to come on the truck radio during non-news shows, pay little attention to them, then TRY to research the few stories that even vaguely sound like they MAY have a grain of truth in them. I don't know why one would even CARE where I get my "News" from. I kinda think it is funny that anyone does.

 

[zorry]

I figured with his morning coffee he googled Marxist.
Anybody that said that yesterday gets read today.

 

[layoutshooter]

I figured with his morning coffee he googled Marxist.
Anybody that said that yesterday gets read today.

Naw, no need to google Marxist, just look at Obama, or Biden, or Pelosi, or Ried, or Levin, or Dingell, or Stabanow, or Christi, or Bloomburg ..............

 

[Turtle]

Very funny

Thanks. That's what I was going for.

I don't know why one would even CARE where I get my "News" from. I kinda think it is funny that anyone does.

We care because so many of your views on so many topics are just really out there, and seem to be based on no readily available information be it from mainstream, alternative or underground informational sources. Sometimes one can't help but wonder if you have to stand up, or at least lean to the side a great deal, in order to obtain the information from which it comes.

 

[Humble2drive]

Sometimes one can't help but wonder if you have to stand up, or at least lean to the side a great deal, in order to obtain the information from which it comes.

I have tried this type of research; however, every time I stand up or lean to the side that darn auto flush thing goes off and I lose my train of thought.

 

[layoutshooter]

Thanks. That's what I was going for.

We care because so many of your views on so many topics are just really out there, and seem to be based on no readily available information be it from mainstream, alternative or underground informational sources. Sometimes one can't help but wonder if you have to stand up, or at least lean to the side a great deal, in order to obtain the information from which it comes.

I take today's stories, TRY to put them some kind of historical context, bounce that off my own life experience, try to find sources that have been involved in each story, and go from there.

In EVERY case in my life, EVERY important news story I knew something about or worked on, was either misreported or lied about. Whether it was talking about "removing shotgun shells" from the face of a guy Cheney shot, or NO aircraft able to get into New Orleans do deliver aid, a live report, during Katrina, while I was watching them unload a C5A. Not to mention the total ton of BS during the first Libyan shoot down I worked. That was reported so bad I was not even sure it was the same event I has sat through and worked the night before.

There is almost zero attempt to use proper terms, give honest, accurate facts on the news.
So I wing it as best I can. As time goes on, and my "sources" die, retire, etc, I will have fewer and fewer chances to get any straight stories.

 

[davekc]

I take today's stories, TRY to put them some kind of historical context, bounce that off my own life experience, try to find sources that have been involved in each story, and go from there.

In EVERY case in my life, EVERY important news story I knew something about or worked on, was either misreported or lied about. Whether it was talking about "removing shotgun shells" from the face of a guy Cheney shot, or NO aircraft able to get into New Orleans do deliver aid, a live report, during Katrina, while I was watching them unload a C5A. Not to mention the total ton of BS during the first Libyan shoot down I worked. That was reported so bad I was not even sure it was the same event I has sat through and worked the night before.

There is almost zero attempt to use proper terms, give honest, accurate facts on the news.
So I wing it as best I can. As time goes on, and my "sources" die, retire, etc, I will have fewer and fewer chances to get any straight stories.

Are you sure you aren't an afternoon secret admirer of Megyn Kelly from Fox News?

 

[layoutshooter]

I have NEVER even SEEN Megan Kelly, let alone "admire her". Here lately, I have not seen, or heard, much of anything in the "news business" worth admiring.

 

[davekc]

I have NEVER even SEEN Megan Kelly, let alone "admire her". Here lately, I have not seen, or heard, much of anything in the "news business" worth admiring.

I was testing.

 

[layoutshooter]

Testing what?

I was just reading some testing on firing 5.56MM ammo through a .223REM chamber. Interesting stuff but the math was WAY over my head.

You were not working on that type of testing were you?

 

[davekc]

Testing what?

I was just reading some testing on firing 5.56MM ammo through a .223REM chamber. Interesting stuff but the math was WAY over my head.

You were not working on that type of testing were you?

Oh no, not me. I can't aim. RPG's for me.

 

[Ragman]

Oh no, not me. I can't aim. RPG's for me.

 

[layoutshooter]

Oh no, not me. I can't aim. RPG's for me.

Nukes work FAR better for people who are aiming impaired.