Deliberate, Intentional Murder ...

RLENT

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Israeli forces - apparently in complete violation of their own rules and regulations - recently targeted and assassinated two unarmed Palestinian youth who, at the time, posed no immediate, direct threat to them.

A third individual who was targeted but not killed remains in critical condition in the hospital, having been shot through his lung, with an additional 9 other Palestinians being shot by live fire that same day. The Israeli military has - of course - denied that they used live fire.

Allison Deger reports from Ramallah:

Two Palestinian youths killed by Israeli army live-fire during Nakba Day demonstration

Allison Deger on May 15, 2014

Two Palestinians were killed and a third is in critical condition after being shot by the Israeli military outside of Ofer prison in the West Bank at an annual Nakba Day protest. The youths were struck with live-fire and nine others critically wounded, according to hospital staff. The Nakba (literally "catastrophe") refers to the 1947-49 expulsion of over 750,000 Palestinians who were forcibly evicted or fled from their villages, thus creating a refugee population that today has reached seven million.

Nadime Siam Abu Nuwara, 17, from Mazra'a Qabiya was shot by a single bullet to the heart at 12:30 pm. Mohammed Awad Salemeh Abu Thaher, 22, from Abu Khadem was killed just before 2:00 pm from a bullet to the lower abdomen. Mohammed Azza, 22, from Sharaeh was taken to an intensive care unit after being shot in the chest.

"The bullet went in and out," said Ahmad Naser, 27, an emergency medical responder with Physicians for Palestine, pointing to his heart and back. Naser carried Abu Nuwara into an ambulance after the protesters removed him from the street while Israeli soldiers continued to fire, he said. He died in an ambulance en route to Ramallah.


During the demonstration the Israeli army also fired tear gas, rubber bullets, and sound grenades. The military also used a bulldozer to uproot seven old-growth olive trees to create a pathway for army Jeeps. Emergency medical staff said the youths threw stones at the Israeli forces.


At the hospital around 300 Palestinians poured into the plaza of Ramallah's public hospital. Two more injured Palestinians were rushed from stretchers into the emergency room. By 7:00 pm nine others had been shot with live-fire said a doctor, although Naser said the clashes with the Israeli army were still ongoing at the time of the publication of this article. While I spoke to Naser, he leapt to treat a female relative of one of the youths killed as she lost consciousness in the hospital's lobby....

(Article continues at link below)

Two Palestinian youths killed by Israeli army live-fire during Nakba Day demonstration
 

RLENT

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As Robert Mackey of the New York Times reports, the incident was captured on multiple video cameras:

Video Shows Killing of Palestinians on 'Nakba Day'

By ROBERT MACKEY MAY 19, 2014 9:26 PM

Last Updated, Tuesday, 3:47 p.m. |
Security-camera footage obtained by the rights group Defense for Children International appears to show the fatal shooting of two young Palestinians on Thursday during a demonstration in Beitunia, a West Bank town outside Ramallah.


The rights group published the footage on Monday in a video report that also includes the testimony of a witness, Fakher Zayed. Mr. Zayed owns a building near the Israeli occupation authority's Ofer Prison, where more than 100 Palestinians have been on a hunger strike for weeks, and it was his security camera that recorded the incident. The demonstration was in commemoration of what Palestinians call the "catastrophe," or "nakba," of Israel's creation in 1948, during which hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were driven from their homes into exile.


At least one of the young men killed in the incident, Nadeem Siam Nawara, was a 17-year-old student. Palestinian health officials initially told The Times that the other victim, Muhammad Odeh Abu al Daher, was 20, and later revised that to 16, while the Palestinian Center for Human Rights subsequently reported that he too was 17.


The Israel Defense Forces described the demonstration and clashes in Beitunia on Thursday as "a violent and illegal disturbance," in a statement provided to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on Tuesday. The military statement claimed that the rights group's video report, which included only excerpts from the security-camera footage, "was edited in a biased way and does not reflect the violence in the disturbance."


As my colleague Jodi Rudoren reports:

Rifat Kassis, executive director of Defense for Children International, said that "neither child presented a direct and immediate threat to life at the time of their shooting" and called on Israel to "conduct serious, impartial, and thorough investigations to hold the perpetrators accountable for their crimes."

Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, a spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces, said Tuesday that investigations by the military and the police were continuing, and that "the preliminary inquiry up until this moment still does not indicate any use of live fire by the forces." Colonel Lerner said that the "edited few minutes" of video did not capture the "atmosphere of violence" during the demonstration, and he noted that it does not show who fired the shots or whether they were rubber bullets or live ammunition.


"So what caused the deaths," he said, "is a question mark that needs to be answered."
More footage from the security camera, and a second one mounted on the same building, showing the shooting of first Nadeem Nawara and then Muhammad Odeh, was posted online on Tuesday by the Israeli rights group B'Tselem, which called for "an investigation into the military's highly incorrect version of the incident conveyed to the media."


(Article - with video - continues at link below)
Video Shows Killing of Palestinians on 'Nakba Day' - NYTimes.com
 
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RLENT

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LOL ... so predictable ...

Seems like Elder of Moron is your 'go to' guy ...

Refresh my memory: this is the same doofus whose considered legal assessment was that because the Palestinian Right of Return was an individual right for individuals to return to their homes, Israel could just deal with this problem simply by destroying any still existing Palestinian homes inside Israel proper, right ?

Poof ... problem solved !

LOL ...

IDF uses live-fire zones to expel Palestinians from areas of West Bank, officer admits

Officer tells Knesset committee method used to reduce illegal construction, Palestinian population in Area C; Habayit Hayehudi MK urges crack-down on international groups who assist construction.

By Amira Hass | May 21, 2014 | 8:58 AM

Military training in live-fire zones in the West Bank is used as a way of reducing the number of Palestinians living nearby, and serves as an important part of the campaign against Palestinian illegal construction, an army officer revealed at a recent Knesset committee meeting.

Col. Einav Shalev, operations officer of Central Command, was addressing a subcommittee of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, which discussed "illegal Palestinian construction in Area C" of the West Bank, and ways of expelling Palestinian residents from areas such as E1, the Jordan Valley and Susya, south of Hebron.

He told those at the meeting that the goal of preventing illegal construction is one of the main reasons the Israel Defense Forces has recently increased its training in the Jordan Valley.

MKs Mordechai Yogev and Orit Strock (Habayit Hayehudi), the only committee members in the meeting, and some other attendees complained that the Civil Administration and the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories were not doing enough to stop what they said was the spread of illegal Palestinian construction.

They mentioned the involvement of international organizations and foreign countries in supporting such building. "They are inciting the Arabs and others to chaos," said Yogev, demanding that Israel take strong steps against them. Yogev, chairman of the panel, said its next meeting would focus on the international organizations.

IDF Gen. Yoav Mordechai, coordinator of government activities in the territories, was invited to the meeting, which took place April 27. ...

Closed military areas

Some 18 percent of the West Bank is defined as closed military areas designated for military training, while Area A, which is under Palestinian civil and policing authority, is 17.7 percent of the area of the West Bank. Israeli settlements, unlike the veteran Palestinian villages, are not included in the firing zones, and the residents of outposts that have expanded into firing zones are not removed.

Some 6,200 Palestinians in 38 communities live in live-fire areas, making a living from livestock and agriculture. Most of the communities have been in existence since long before Israel conquered the West Bank in 1967, and certainly before the areas were designated live-fire zones.

Shalev said that "in places where we significantly reduced the amount of training, weeds have grown," referring to Palestinian communities. "This is somethign that should be taken into consideration," he said.

Referring to the IDF's policy of confiscating humanitarian equipment before it got to its destination, Shalev said this serves as "a punch in the right places. When you confiscate 10 large, white and expensive tents, it's not easy. It's not simple to recover.” Because of the confiscation policy, the Red Cross had decided to stop providing tents to shepherd communities whose huts and barns were destroyed by the Civil Administration, he noted.

The European Community and international aid organizations have devoted much of their humanitarian and diplomatic activities to Area C in recent years. As they see it, the Israeli veto on connecting communities to water, electricity and transportation infrastructure is contrary to Israel's obligations as an occupier. They describe Israel's plans to relocate the Bedouin to permanent communities and destroy various villages in the south of the West Bank as transfer and forced removal, which are illegal under international law. ...

(Complete article at link below)
IDF uses live-fire zones to expel Palestinians from areas of West Bank, officer admits - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz
 

RLENT

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I wonder if it is tied to a rocket that went into Israel?
Oh ... I'd really be interested in hearing your thoughts on that ...

Why dontcha take a stab at it ... and see if you can tie it all together ?

Should be entertaining if nothing else ... :rolleyes:
 

davekc

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Oh ... I'd really be interested in hearing your thoughts on that ...

Why dontcha take a stab at it ... and see if you can tie it all together ?

Should be entertaining if nothing else ... :rolleyes:

Wasn't really designed for entertainment purposes, but rather a question as to whether it was tied to a rocket being shot? More of a retaliation if you will. Just basing it on reports over the last few days.
 

RLENT

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Wasn't really designed for entertainment purposes, but rather a question as to whether it was tied to a rocket being shot? More of a retaliation if you will. Just basing it on reports over the last few days.
Since the assassination in question (for which the autopsy in the story I referenced is being conducted) occurred back on (or right around) Nakba Day - which is May 15th - it doesn't seem real likely that the events you cite - which occurred around a month later - would be a precipitating factor or cause ...

Since, you know: they hadn't yet occurred ...

Kinda of hard to retaliate for something that hasn't happened yet ...
 

RLENT

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BTW - on the whole "retaliation" premise, a rough analogy would be:

Someone in Vancouver, BC (Gaza) fires a rocket into the US at say, Seattle ... so a CBP officer decides to target and assassinate a kid in Quebec (West Bank) ...

Generally speaking, rockets don't come from the West Bank, they come from Gaza ...
 
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Turtle

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Someone in Vancouver, BC (Gaza) fires a rocket into the US at say, Seattle ... so a CBP officer decides to target and assassinate a kid in Quebec (West Bank) ...
I could see that happening.
 
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